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Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   Updated on: 01 May 2022, 02:42
[quote="ashishd"]Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

I will explain why choice d is wrong.
on (the)condition +that clause. the meaning is something is required. in this pattern, subjuntive mode is required.

but if some thing is required, we can use "on condition of something". we will go to the beach on condition of good weather. this sentence is the same as " we will go to the beach on condition that whether be good". so, the same meaning and two pattern is used.

but why choice D , using the correct pattern "on condition of somthing" is wrong. this case is what gmat like to test, the case that the pattern is correct but the meaning is wrong.
"not being named " is unclear . who is not being named? we can not say that the officials refers to "being named". of course, in many patterns, being or doing refer to the noun in the sentence . for example.

not passing gmat, I can not get in to Havard.

in this pattern, grammatically, not passing refers to "I".

but in our pattern in choice D, grammatically, being name can not refer to official and so, the meaning is unclear.

the following could be corect.

the condition of not naming the participant is required.

this is correct because naming refer to general action and should not refer to anyone.

Originally posted by thangvietnam on 22 Sep 2019, 21:43.
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   29 Sep 2019, 03:51
daagh wrote:
This is not a test of idiom. This is a test of present subjunctive and shift of tense.

The three tenets of present subjunctive are:

1.An element of mandate 2. An introductory conjunction “that” and 3. The basic form of the verb

The given text befits the use of the subjunctive because the mandate emanates from the compulsory condition, the introductory conjunction “that” is available and the basic form of the verb “be not named” is used. The other four choices exhibit fundamental errors such as shift of tense, etc. Remember that the main clause in simple past.

In B and E, the subordinate clause uses “will not be”, a future tense.
In C, the subordinate clause uses “are not”, a simple present and
D uses of “not being”

A is the eventual winner.


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being is not modifier ,right ?
it is object of preposition
not being named in the story -- let's call it something
so several officials spoke to the press on condition of something--- what is wrong in this ?
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   29 Sep 2019, 05:46
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The vibe of GMAT requires that the command subjunctive structure "mandation plus that plus bare infinitive" be used in such situations. D is not using that structure , though it might be grammatically correct .I hope you get the reason for importance of the vibe of GMAT.
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   06 Nov 2019, 08:12
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listen buddies :), a subjunctive requires a verb + that ....it can not be used with a noun such as "condition".... we can not apply subjunctive rule here.... therefore B is the correct answer .... :) enjoy


Hi, i am afraid that the OA is A due to usage of command subjunctive concept.

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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   06 Nov 2019, 08:13
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Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

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The official spoke on the condition that he not be named because of diplomatic proprieties.

The lawyer, as well as American and Saudi officials, all of whom spoke on the condition that they not be named, said Abdul Rahman Alomari had been interviewed by Saudi and United States authorities in Saudi Arabia in the last two days.

The official and others interviewed in recent days spoke on condition that they not be named, saying they did not want to inflame tensions at the agency.



By vurtue of command subjunctive concept, OA is A
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   07 Dec 2019, 08:42
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Does command subjunctive mode change its structure based on tenses?

I demand that he be here

He demanded that he be here

He will demand that he be here

Is it always - SUBJECT + BOSSY WORD + that + NOUN + BARE INFINITIVE. Should We never use will or would with the verb?
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   07 Dec 2019, 08:50
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never in a subjunctive mood
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   27 May 2020, 12:54
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Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

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I don't think there is any meaning issue with option B.
Press will not use officials name, here use of will is perfectly fine.
Can you suggest why option B is incorrect?
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   28 Jan 2021, 02:09
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Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

Can the correct sentence be rephrased as :
"Several senior officials spoke to the press, demanding that they not be named in the story."
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   28 Jan 2021, 04:27
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Can the correct sentence be rephrased as :
"Several senior officials spoke to the press, demanding that they not be named in the story."

Should be ok, though not sure why you would want to re-phrase a correct option :)
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   25 Nov 2021, 15:25
Thank you for your post, it is very helpful.

To be clear, how do we know when to use a command subjunctive structure ?

Is it every time we see a bossy?

If not, which other trigger can we use?

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One purpose of the subjunctive mood is to express an action that is HYPOTHETICAL: an action that might not actually happen.
When we demand an action, we cannot be certain that our demand will be met.
Because the demanded action might not actually happen, we use the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
The structure of the command subjunctive is as follows:
SUBJECT + BOSSY WORD + that + NOUN + BARE INFINITIVE.
Examples of bossy words: demand, dictate, mandate, etc.
The bare infinitive is the infinitive form of a verb with the to omitted.
Example:
The attorneys demanded that the new contract be implemented.
In the sentence above:
Subject =the attorneys.
Bossy word = demanded.
that + NOUN = that the new contract.
Bare infinitive = be implemented (to be implemented with the to omitted).

In the SC above, on condition serves to express a DEMAND and thus functions as a BOSSY WORD.
As a result, the command subjunctive is required:
Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they not be named in the press reports.
Here:
Subject =several financial officers.
Bossy word = on condition.
that + NOUN = that they.
Bare infinitive = be named (to be named with the to omitted).
Of the five answer choices, only A correctly employs the command subjunctive.
The correct answer is A.
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   25 Nov 2021, 15:26
Hello,

How do we know when to use the command subjunctive construction?

Is a bossy verb a sufficient trigger ?

If not, what are the other triggers that we can use?

Thanks in advance :)



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Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

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The official spoke on the condition that he not be named because of diplomatic proprieties.

The lawyer, as well as American and Saudi officials, all of whom spoke on the condition that they not be named, said Abdul Rahman Alomari had been interviewed by Saudi and United States authorities in Saudi Arabia in the last two days.

The official and others interviewed in recent days spoke on condition that they not be named, saying they did not want to inflame tensions at the agency.
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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   26 Nov 2021, 07:02
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Hello,

How do we know when to use the command subjunctive construction?

Is a bossy verb a sufficient trigger ?

If not, what are the other triggers that we can use?

Thanks in advance :)



ashishd wrote:
Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

Show Spoiler
The official spoke on the condition that he not be named because of diplomatic proprieties.

The lawyer, as well as American and Saudi officials, all of whom spoke on the condition that they not be named, said Abdul Rahman Alomari had been interviewed by Saudi and United States authorities in Saudi Arabia in the last two days.

The official and others interviewed in recent days spoke on condition that they not be named, saying they did not want to inflame tensions at the agency.


Hello Naptiste,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can resolve your doubt.

Yes, the use of a bossy verb is sufficient to indicate that the command subjunctive is preferable in a given sentence.

To understand the concept of "Subjunctive Mood" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~20 minutes):



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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   26 Nov 2021, 07:45
Thank you so much for your help, the video is extremely helpful.




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Naptiste wrote:
Hello,

How do we know when to use the command subjunctive construction?

Is a bossy verb a sufficient trigger ?

If not, what are the other triggers that we can use?

Thanks in advance :)



ashishd wrote:
Several senior officials spoke to the press on condition that they not be named in the story.

(A) that they not be named
(B) that their names will not be used
(C) that their names are not used
(D) of not being named
(E) they will not be named

Show Spoiler
The official spoke on the condition that he not be named because of diplomatic proprieties.

The lawyer, as well as American and Saudi officials, all of whom spoke on the condition that they not be named, said Abdul Rahman Alomari had been interviewed by Saudi and United States authorities in Saudi Arabia in the last two days.

The official and others interviewed in recent days spoke on condition that they not be named, saying they did not want to inflame tensions at the agency.


Hello Naptiste,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can resolve your doubt.

Yes, the use of a bossy verb is sufficient to indicate that the command subjunctive is preferable in a given sentence.

To understand the concept of "Subjunctive Mood" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~20 minutes):



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Re: Several financial officers of the company spoke on condition that they [#permalink] New post   23 Aug 2022, 02:26
Hi, I want to know how to find is the word is subjunctive trigger. Is there any list of such words or some specific rules?

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Hi, I want to know how to find is the word is subjunctive trigger. Is there any list of such words or some specific rules?

Thanks


Hello BansalT,

We hope this finds you well.

To better understand the use of "Subjunctive Mood" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~20 minutes):



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Hi, I want to know how to find is the word is subjunctive trigger. Is there any list of such words or some specific rules?

Thanks


Don't overstudy this one.

Basic structures:

HYPOTHETICALS:

If X WERE... Y WOULD

"If he were to arrive on time, it would be a miracle."

If X IS [or other present tense] .... Y Will"

"If he arrives on time, it will be a miracle."

If X HAD... Y WOULD HAVE

"If he had arrived on time, it would have been a miracle."


COMMANDS/REQUESTS

These use the infinitive of the verb (the 'root' word in the 'to [verb]' format).

"The museum director requested that the event be hosted in the entrance hall."

"The queen decreed that each citizen return home at 9 pm every night."

Here's a good, basic overview of this tricky concept: https://strategiesforparents.com/if-tha ... tive-mood/

Make sure you've mastered all over sentence correction topics before diving too much into this one. Subjects, verbs, modifiers, comparisons, and pronouns are each worth 10x what the subjunctive mood is worth in SC.
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Hi, I want to know how to find is the word is subjunctive trigger. Is there any list of such words or some specific rules?

Thanks


Trying to memorize lists of words isn't a good idea. Rote memorization in general is hostile to the ongoing development of better linguistic intuition, but it's especially fraught in this case because there are some verbs that may or may not take the 'command subjunctive', depending on what exactly they're intended to mean in context.

E.g.,

• If propose means "to put forward for consideration as a rule/policy", then it DOES take the 'command subjunctive'.
I would like to propose that students not be allowed to bring large backpacks into the auditorium.

• If, on the other hand, propose means "hypothesize" / "conjecture", then it does NOT take the 'command subjunctive'.
Ancient Chinese physicians were the first people in history to propose that blood circulates throughout the human body.



In general, this type of subjunctive form is for verb phrases that someone WANTS or DEMANDS to be true. Do you see how this applies to the first example using "propose" above, but not to the second one?
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