Ergenekon wrote:
I think the answer to this question will always be ambiguous to non - native speakers:)
Hi Ergenekon, I don't take that for an answer, because I am a non-native speaker too:).
Let's give it another shot, with a fresh example, that you can better associate with.
Prior to 2012, GMAT used to have
two essays as part of AWA. In 2012 however, GMAC introduced the IR section, replacing one of the AWA essays. So:
i) Prior to 2012, GMAT had
two essays as part of AWA
ii) Since 2012, GMAT has had
one essay as part of AWA.
How would we articulate this in a sentence?
A 2012 change in the pattern of GMAT reduced the number of essays that students are asked to attempt as part of the GMAT exam. Now, why can’t we articulate the sentence as:
A 2012 change in the pattern of GMAT reduced the number of essays that students had been asked to attempt as part of the GMAT exam.For this, let’s understand the
intent of the sentence. Students are asked to attempt
what as part of the GMAT exam? Well, students are asked to attempt
essays as part of the GMAT exam. So,
that (in
that students…) is clearly referring to
essays (and not to
number of essays).
Summarily, students attempted
essays even prior to 2012; students attempt
essays even
now (and hence the construct:
students are asked to attempt, because students are asked to attempt essays
even now). The only thing that
changed/reduced in 2012 was their
number. Hence, the sentence:
GMAT reduced the number of essays that students are asked to attempt as part of the GMAT exam.
Let me know if it is now making some sense:).
Ok, makes sense. So, can we conclude safely that while using past perfect tense the entire event or the effect of that event no longer exist?