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HKD1710, Thanks for uploading the questions. Please underline only the portion, which is different in different options. :) I have modified your question accordingly.
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HKD1710, Thanks for uploading the questions. Please underline only the portion, which is different in different options. :) I have modified your question accordingly.


Original Question is a fully underlined sentence. But new version looks decent and even better. Thank you for editing it:)
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HKD1710, Thanks for uploading the questions. Please underline only the portion, which is different in different options. :) I have modified your question accordingly.


Original Question is a fully underlined sentence. But new version looks decent and even better. Thank you for editing it:)


Thank you for your appreciation. :) ...... just one point here: The underlined portion must have a split at the beginning and at the end, i.e., at least one of the answer choices must be different in some way from the others at the beginning of the under-lined portion and at the end. Therefore if a full sentence is underlined, the beginning of the sentence and the end of the sentence must have splits.

As a matter of fact, a very effective strategy to eliminate wrong answers in SC questions is to examine the splits at the beginning and the end of the underlined portion. Hope I could explain the point.
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I rejected E because that looked like secondary information so its better to keep it as modifier. But while reading your response, They and Their are missing antecedent, why cant they refer to Everglades?

Thanks!

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Though swamp-like, Florida's Everglades are actually a 60-mile-wide river, the waters of which can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

(A) the waters of which can take months to reach their

(B) whose waters do take months to reach their

(C) whose waters can take months to reach its

(D) the waters of which can take months to reach its

(E) and they can take months to reach their


A. Correct. The pronoun their agrees with the antecedent waters.

B. This option alters the meaning of the original sentence. It is intended to say that the time taken by the waters to reach Florida bay may be as high as some months - nevertheless the time taken could be less as well. However using do instead of can implies that the waters always take months to reach Florida bay.

C. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

D. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

E. The pronoun they and theirs do not have any antecedent to refer to.
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Hi neeraj609,

I do see your point. However please take a look at my reasoning below and see if it makes sense:

Everglades is a body of water that spans up to Florida Bay. The original sentence intends to mean that the water in the body (not the body itself) flows into Florida bay; it takes months for the water to reach the bay. The body itself does not move, but the water does.

Do you see my point?

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Hi,

I rejected E because that looked like secondary information so its better to keep it as modifier. But while reading your response, They and Their are missing antecedent, why cant they refer to Everglades?

Thanks!

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Though swamp-like, Florida's Everglades are actually a 60-mile-wide river, the waters of which can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

(A) the waters of which can take months to reach their

(B) whose waters do take months to reach their

(C) whose waters can take months to reach its

(D) the waters of which can take months to reach its

(E) and they can take months to reach their


A. Correct. The pronoun their agrees with the antecedent waters.

B. This option alters the meaning of the original sentence. It is intended to say that the time taken by the waters to reach Florida bay may be as high as some months - nevertheless the time taken could be less as well. However using do instead of can implies that the waters always take months to reach Florida bay.

C. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

D. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

E. The pronoun they and theirs do not have any antecedent to refer to.
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Hi neeraj609,

I do see your point. However please take a look at my reasoning below and see if it makes sense:

Everglades is a body of water that spans up to Florida Bay. The original sentence intends to mean that the water in the body (not the body itself) flows into Florida bay; it takes months for the water to reach the bay. The body itself does not move, but the water does.

Do you see my point?



I have a query here - Does the river have a final destination or do the "waters" have a final destination. e.g.- The Ganges springs in the Himalayas and travels throughout northern India to reach its final destination - the Bay of Bengal.
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Hi neeraj609,

I do see your point. However please take a look at my reasoning below and see if it makes sense:

Everglades is a body of water that spans up to Florida Bay. The original sentence intends to mean that the water in the body (not the body itself) flows into Florida bay; it takes months for the water to reach the bay. The body itself does not move, but the water does.

Do you see my point?



I have a query here - Does the river have a final destination or do the "waters" have a final destination. e.g.- The Ganges springs in the Himalayas and travels throughout northern India to reach its final destination - the Bay of Bengal.


Either could be valid depending on usage. In this particular case, the original sentence distinctly mentions that "waters" reach the final destination and hence in my opinion it is preferable to stick to the usage if a grammatically correct option is available with this usage.
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HKD1710 wrote:
Though swamp-like, Florida's Everglades are actually a 60-mile-wide river, the waters of which can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

(A) the waters of which can take months to reach their

(B) whose waters do take months to reach their

(C) whose waters can take months to reach its

(D) the waters of which can take months to reach its

(E) and they can take months to reach their


A. Correct. The pronoun their agrees with the antecedent waters.

B. This option alters the meaning of the original sentence. It is intended to say that the time taken by the waters to reach Florida bay may be as high as some months - nevertheless the time taken could be less as well. However using do instead of can implies that the waters always take months to reach Florida bay.

C. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

D. The pronoun its does not agree with the antecedent waters.

E. The pronoun they and theirs do not have any antecedent to refer to.


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How to decide on "its vs their" as a pronoun for WATERS, as it(waters) is an uncountable noun?
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Dear Friends,

Here is a detailed explanation to this question-
HKD1710 wrote:
Though swamp-like, Florida's Everglades are actually a 60-mile-wide river, the waters of which can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.


(A) the waters of which can take months to reach their

(B) whose waters do take months to reach their

(C) whose waters can take months to reach its

(D) the waters of which can take months to reach its

(E) and they can take months to reach their


Meaning is crucial to solving this problem:

Understanding the intended meaning is key to solving this question; the intended meaning of the crucial part of this sentence is that the waters of Florida's Everglades can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

Concepts tested here: Meaning + Pronouns

A: Correct. This answer choice uses the phrase "can take", conveying the intended meaning - that it is possible for the waters of Florida's Everglades to take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay. Further, Option A avoids the pronoun error seen in Option E, as it includes the noun "waters" for the pronoun "their" to refer to. Additionally, Option A correctly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the plural pronoun "their".

B: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "do take"; the omission of the word "can" incorrectly implies that the waters of Florida's Everglades definitely take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay; the intended meaning is that it is possible for the waters of Florida's Everglades to take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

C: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the singular pronoun "its".

D: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the singular pronoun "its".

E: This answer choice suffers from a pronoun error, as the pronouns "they" and "their" have no logical referent.

Hence, A is the best answer choice.

All the best!
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Can you please answer my query also?
How to decide on "its vs their" as a pronoun for WATERS, as it(waters) is an uncountable noun?

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ExpertsGlobal5 wrote:
Dear Friends,

Here is a detailed explanation to this question-
HKD1710 wrote:
Though swamp-like, Florida's Everglades are actually a 60-mile-wide river, the waters of which can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.


(A) the waters of which can take months to reach their

(B) whose waters do take months to reach their

(C) whose waters can take months to reach its

(D) the waters of which can take months to reach its

(E) and they can take months to reach their


Meaning is crucial to solving this problem:

Understanding the intended meaning is key to solving this question; the intended meaning of the crucial part of this sentence is that the waters of Florida's Everglades can take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

Concepts tested here: Meaning + Pronouns

A: Correct. This answer choice uses the phrase "can take", conveying the intended meaning - that it is possible for the waters of Florida's Everglades to take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay. Further, Option A avoids the pronoun error seen in Option E, as it includes the noun "waters" for the pronoun "their" to refer to. Additionally, Option A correctly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the plural pronoun "their".

B: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "do take"; the omission of the word "can" incorrectly implies that the waters of Florida's Everglades definitely take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay; the intended meaning is that it is possible for the waters of Florida's Everglades to take months to reach their final destination in Florida Bay.

C: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the singular pronoun "its".

D: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the plural noun "waters" with the singular pronoun "its".

E: This answer choice suffers from a pronoun error, as the pronouns "they" and "their" have no logical referent.

Hence, A is the best answer choice.

All the best!
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Hi,
Can you please answer my query also?
How to decide on "its vs their" as a pronoun for WATERS, as it(waters) is an uncountable noun?

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Dear ktzsikka,

We hope this finds you well. Having gone through your query, we believe that we can help resolve your doubt.

"water" is an uncountable noun, but its plural form "waters" is countable; this is because "water" refers to water as a substance, but "waters" refers to the various different types or currents of water. Please consider the following sentences to understand this better - "The shop sells candy." "The shop sells candies."
The first sentence uses the uncountable noun "candy", indicating that the shop sells the substance "candy", and the second sentence uses the countable noun "candies", indicating that the shop sells discreet units of candy or different types of candy.

Thus, to answer your query, the plural form of any uncountable noun ceases to be uncountable and functions as a plural noun.

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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