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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 12:27
Hi!

I am an international applicant from India.

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I am applying in the EA Round.

At present I am in US(on a consulting assignment) and wanted to interview on campus, but I have a lot to catch up on with my apps (also have never driven in us - right hand drive- and cudnt figure a smart way to goto dartmouth and come back in a day without having to drive), so i dont think i will be able to interview on campus. I will be back in India by late october, so will have to settle for a telephonic interview/ hub interview in delhi. This would also give me ample time to be prepared for the interview. Will not taking an opportunity to interview on campus reflect negatively on my app ? I am pretty serious about tuck and really banking on it (applying to only 2 b-schools in us).
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 12:33
tanksingh wrote:
Hi!

I am an international applicant from India.

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I am applying in the EA Round.

At present I am in US(on a consulting assignment) and wanted to interview on campus, but I have a lot to catch up on with my apps (also have never driven in us - right hand drive- and cudnt figure a smart way to goto dartmouth and come back in a day without having to drive), so i dont think i will be able to interview on campus. I will be back in India by late october, so will have to settle for a telephonic interview/ hub interview in delhi. This would also give me ample time to be prepared for the interview. Will not taking an opportunity to interview on campus reflect negatively on my app ? I am pretty serious about tuck and really banking on it (applying to only 2 b-schools in us).


From what I hear, Tuck really likes applicants to complete the self initiated interview process. Supposedly it is more lenient for international candidates but I'm pretty sure that not visiting/interviewing is a negative. Since Hanover is so remote it's really important to get a feel for the environment.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 15:42
From what I gathered at my information session at Tuck, visiting is huge.

You can take the bus from Boston, to Tuck, and back in a single day without a problem. $60 round trip.

Check out the Dartmouth Coach - www.dartmouthcoach.com

Fast, and convienent, with free WiFi on all the buses.


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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 15:47
I decide to drop Tuck from my list. I just don't have that much time to apply that many schools. I also canceled Houston Reception tomorrow. I am just going to apply Duke and Vanderbilt for their healthcare MBA program.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 17:46
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The group I was in was pretty shocked by that low of a number and pressed her a little on it, and she said they really do not expect a much higher number this year in EA. Overall, they expect higher by a bit, but she mentioned she would be surprised if EA was up over 150-170 (I think those were the numbers she mentioned).

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All these are interesting analysis. But do you think that the adcom member was just trying to encourage people to apply in huge numbers in EA by giving them an incentive. After all, for the school, lower the selectivity and more the applications in EA, the better.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 17:51
I don't really think so, she seemed extremely candid, and made a point as saying all the tips and insight she gave was "off the record". I believe what she said to be true.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   30 Sep 2008, 19:06
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I don't really think so, she seemed extremely candid, and made a point as saying all the tips and insight she gave was "off the record". I believe what she said to be true.


So you got the impression that your chances are better in the ED round than say R1?

I'm curious exactly how they decide how many to accept in each round. My impression was that they filled ~45% of spots in in R1 and R2 each. The last 10% or so went to R3.

So where does the ED round fit in? Do they fill "x" number of spots in ED?

Does an app in ED have a better chance of being accepted than the same app in R1?

I've heard it argued that applying earlier doesn't necessarily improve your chances because the schools thinks "well, we can always wait and see who applies in R1 or R2".

Then again I've heard earlier is better because they have less to compare you too.

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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 06:47
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sam77sam7 wrote:
I don't really think so, she seemed extremely candid, and made a point as saying all the tips and insight she gave was "off the record". I believe what she said to be true.


So you got the impression that your chances are better in the ED round than say R1?

I'm curious exactly how they decide how many to accept in each round. My impression was that they filled ~45% of spots in in R1 and R2 each. The last 10% or so went to R3.

So where does the ED round fit in? Do they fill "x" number of spots in ED?

Does an app in ED have a better chance of being accepted than the same app in R1?

I've heard it argued that applying earlier doesn't necessarily improve your chances because the schools thinks "well, we can always wait and see who applies in R1 or R2".

Then again I've heard earlier is better because they have less to compare you too.

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10% of spots in EA = 24 spots. Considering a yield of 50%, that's 48 acceptances out of a pool of 150-160 for an acceptance rate close to 33%.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 07:17
My consultant, who was a Tuck Adcom said that back then they won't admit a specific number each round. They have a mandate for equal selectivity for all rounds. Especially for a big year like this, they will almost certainly wait till later instead of admitting borderline applicants.
In other words, EA is essentially just another name for R1. Don't treat it as Columbia ED, they are completely different.

Now that was 2006 when he worked there, so things may have changed.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 07:21
She implied that you have a better shot in EA. When asked by some guy there, "If I were to submit an app in EA, and then the exact same app in Round 1, which would you be more likely to accept?" and she said, "EA Certainly."

Obviously, there are no two apps that are exactly the same so it isn't a completely realistic situation, but I think she implies that they put significant weight on the EA Round.

And why not? It likely means that the applicant really wants to come to Tuck!

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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 07:48
I just called and asked my consultant for his opinion. He still insists EA is just like R1 in other schools.
As for "better chance in EA", he said if you consider yourself a strong applicant, go for the EA, because you avoid the risk of them running out of space for your demographic group (e.g. too many IT male).
But if you consider yourself borderline, do R1, because the adcom has the luxury of aggressively wait-list people in the early round.

The only time you should definitely do EA is when you are like me, who is a re-app.
Again this is just his, and now my opinion. It may not be the truth.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 12:10
Submitted! Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 13:44
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She implied that you have a better shot in EA. When asked by some guy there, "If I were to submit an app in EA, and then the exact same app in Round 1, which would you be more likely to accept?" and she said, "EA Certainly."


Wow! Considering that is coming from the horse's mouth, it's pretty undeniable proof.

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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 13:50
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sam77sam7 wrote:
She implied that you have a better shot in EA. When asked by some guy there, "If I were to submit an app in EA, and then the exact same app in Round 1, which would you be more likely to accept?" and she said, "EA Certainly."


Wow! Considering that is coming from the horse's mouth, it's pretty undeniable proof.

RF


These are the same people who say campus visit is not a factor for admission. I don't believe it at all 8-)
The fact that Adcom always want people to apply earlier (so that they have more control on the pool) makes this a biased comment.

Stick to your own schedule, apply when you are ready!
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 17:09
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These are the same people who say campus visit is not a factor for admission. I don't believe it at all 8-)
The fact that Adcom always want people to apply earlier (so that they have more control on the pool) makes this a biased comment.


I think most schools say that, except that I believe Tuck AdComs have stated many times that they put emphasis on people who visit, that is shows the commitment to Tuck they want.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 17:24
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I think most schools say that, except that I believe Tuck AdComs have stated many times that they put emphasis on people who visit, that is shows the commitment to Tuck they want.


Someone asked that in the reception I went to, the AdCom (Kristine something) specifically said that if you do an Adcom-initiated interview, you will NOT be disadvantaged. But she did say "we encourage you to visit the school...etc" :wink:

all I am trying to say is that don't take the Adcom's words too seriously. :P
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 17:53
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sam77sam7 wrote:
all I am trying to say is that don't take the Adcom's words too seriously. :P


Oh, I agree. Most talk is just "AdCom Speak" but I do think they put some weight on it. No evidence to support how much though.

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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 18:37
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10% of spots in EA = 24 spots. Considering a yield of 50%, that's 48 acceptances out of a pool of 150-160 for an acceptance rate close to 33%.


Where did you get the 10% of spots from?

I just can't see Tuck lowering their standards just because you apply early. I guess if you are right on the borderline, it might help, but in those cases, there are so many other factors (which adcom read your app?) that it doesn't seem like it would make that big of a difference.

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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 18:42
Woops, I think I misread your post. Sorry.
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Re: Calling all Tuck Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post   01 Oct 2008, 18:56
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Woops, I think I misread your post. Sorry.


That's fine. I just thought you might have some inside knowledge! :wink:

I assume that each school has a target for how many admits they give during each round. But I also assume it's pretty flexible depending on the quality of the apps.

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