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Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.

A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place


A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing - should be students, eliminate.

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place - Correct.

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place - the statement which is referring to the women not the effect of the situation, eliminate.

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing - tenses are wrong placing refers to present tense but the rest of the sentence is referring to future tense of what will happen in the fall, eliminate.

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place - incorrect use of plural, eliminate.

If any of my ideas about why any of the answers are incorrect please share your thoughts.
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Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.

A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place



A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing -- student is wrongly singular

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place -- Correct

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place -- wrong use of which

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing -- wordy, wrong use of cont. tense

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place
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Check out Ron's explanation again. (https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t1862.html) He says that D suffers the same problem as A: by using "placing," it implies that this placement is already happening. This is inherent to the modifier, and doesn't require us to pick out any subtleties from the preceding clause. B fixes this by using the future tense: "will (ultimately) place."

Originally posted by DmitryFarber on 30 Nov 2016, 01:07.
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[quote="pramitmishra0607"][quote="hotshot02"][quote="pramitmishra0607"]"__ing" constructions adopt the same timeframe as the sentence to which they're attached. How do we find this timeframe. By seeing the main verb of the sentence or by seeing the time it is referring to.

Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

nothing wrong with D.
something wrong with B.
in B, "entering" take the time of "are" so, it is in present but "this fall" show future. this is not fit. no logic. wrong.
in D
"placing" take time of "will be" so, it is in future time . this is logic. no thing wrong.

mistake in official question?
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nothing wrong with D.
something wrong with B.
in B, "entering" take the time of "are" so, it is in present but "this fall" show future. this is not fit. no logic. wrong.
in D
"placing" take time of "will be" so, it is in future time . this is logic. no thing wrong.

mistake in official question?


The problem with D (use of the present participle "placing") has already been explained in the post above:
women-are-expected-to-be-the-majority-of-students-entering-82261-40.html#p1769667

As for B, it is true that a present participle in general gets its tense from the main verb of the sentence. However this example shows that GMAT allows exception of this rule, and therefore we may conclude that this rule should not be used to eliminate a choice.
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Is the majority of something singular or plural? Let's look at this official question from GMAT Prep

The majority of scientists believe that to reduce and stabilize atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, emissions must be cut at the source by fossil fuels that are burned more efficiently and, in some cases, by alternatives such as hydrogen fuel cells that can replace fossil fuels altogether.

The sentence starts with a non - underlined part -- The majority of scientists believe -- This is the correct version. This is the solid grammar point of GMAT.

"The majority of" is usually used to modify a following noun. The main verb of the sentence agrees with that noun. This means that the majority now takes the characteristics of the noun that follows, and if the following noun is singular then the verb is singular and if the noun is plural, then the verb is plural.

The following sentences articulate this point.

The majority of his income goes to pay his rent. (
The majority of the emigrants to the Middle East from India are from Kerala

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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A. Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing- incorrect, the participle 'placing' wrongly indicates that this trend is already placing more women in leadership positions.
B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place- incorrect usage of which; 'which' here refers to women; (a) 'which' can't refer to people, and (b) according to the sentence, women don't place themselves in leadership positions; the trend does.
D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing- same as A
E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place - incorrect usage of which

Answer B
I understand that "-ING modifiers don't have a tense. they automatically adopt the tense of the clause to which they're attached."

In option D, will the participle 'placing' take the tense of "It is expected" OR " the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women" ?

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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

please explain your reasoning ...


Choice A: This answer choice uses the "verb+ing" modifier, "placing" to refer to an event taking place in the future; as this type of modifier always denotes the present tense, this usage is inappropriate. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice B: This answer choice maintains proper idiom and tense use and conveys the intended meaning of the sentence. Thus, this answer choice is correct.

Choice C: This answer choice suffers from a modifier error; the pronoun "which" refers to "women" rather than the fact that "the majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women". Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice D: This answer choice repeats the error found in Option A. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice E: This answer choice repeats the error found in Option C. This answer choice also utilizes the incorrect idiom "expected for the women" rather than the correct construction "expected that women"; "the women" is only used when referring to a specific group of women. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Hence, B is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Use of Which, Who, Whose, Where on GMAT" you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



To understand the concept of "Which v/s That on GMAT", you may want to watch the following video (~2 minutes):



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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A. Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing- incorrect, the participle 'placing' wrongly indicates that this trend is already placing more women in leadership positions.
B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place- incorrect usage of which; 'which' here refers to women; (a) 'which' can't refer to people, and (b) according to the sentence, women don't place themselves in leadership positions; the trend does.
D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing- same as A
E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place - incorrect usage of which

Answer B
I understand that "-ING modifiers don't have a tense. they automatically adopt the tense of the clause to which they're attached."

In option D, will the participle 'placing' take the tense of "It is expected" OR " the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women" ?

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I think your question kinda answers itself!

Is the trend placing more women in leadership roles right now? Or is that something that will happen in the future? The correct answer choice (B) avoids this confusion entirely and makes the meaning much clearer.

Remember, you don't have to look at choice (D) in a bubble and decide whether it is "wrong" or "right". You have to compare it to the other 4 choices and decide which is best. If we're comparing (B) and (D), (B) is the winner.
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Isn' t B a run-on sentence??? I' m so confused :dazed
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Isn' t B a run-on sentence??? I' m so confused :dazed

A run-on sentence involves two independent clauses with no conjunction or semicolon to connect them. (B) doesn't have two independent clauses. To see why, consider a similar example:

    "Tim likes to wash down his Pop Rocks with several cans of Coke and Red Bull, a habit that has sent him to the ER more times than he cares to admit."

Notice that the portion after the comma (beginning with "a habit") can't stand on its own as a complete sentence. "A habit" modifies the action in the previous clause, and "that" describes the habit. Because we don't need a conjunction to connect a modifier to a clause, this is perfectly fine.

(It's worth noting that relative pronouns, such as "that," "which," or "who," function as modifiers. For example, "Tim is a lunatic," is an independent clause, but "Tim, who is a lunatic," is not, since "who is a lunatic" merely describes Tim. Related: Tim is special. :roll:)

The same is true in (B). The portion of the sentence beginning with "a trend" can't stand on its own. Rather, "a trend," is describing the previous clause, and "that" is modifying the trend. Because we don't have two independent clauses, we don't have a run-on.

I hope that helps!
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B is correct ; however, I am not convinced.

A trend that ... that referes to trend.... Logically can a trend place women in X and Y ?

Please point my flaw in reasoning....

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B is correct ; however, I am not convinced.

A trend that ... that referes to trend.... Logically can a trend place women in X and Y ?

Please point my flaw in reasoning....

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Yes, it just means the trend will lead to ...

Language has a lot of such constructs that we use on a daily basis e.g. the book says ...
One needn't take the literal meaning here.
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B is correct ; however, I am not convinced.

A trend that ... that referes to trend.... Logically can a trend place women in X and Y ?

Please point my flaw in reasoning....

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Yes, it just means the trend will lead to ...

Language has a lot of such constructs that we use on a daily basis e.g. the book says ...
One needn't take the literal meaning here.



Would it not be more clear , if used " a trend indicating " turning it into an absolute phrase ?
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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.

(A) Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing Since we are talking about something that will happen in the future, usage of present tense "placing" is incorrect. Eliminate.

(B) The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place Correct answer. Tense error is rectified and no new errors are introduced.

(C) The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place "which" refers to "women" - it is not the women themselves who will place more women in leadership positions but the fact that more women will enter law school ie; a trend. Eliminate.

(D) It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing Same error as in (A). Eliminate.

(E) It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place "which" refers to "fall" - it is not the fall that will place more women in leadership positions but the fact that more women will enter law school ie; a trend. Also, "it is expected for" is idiomatically incorrect. Eliminate.

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in choice b] how do we decide 'the majority' is plural. It does not even fall under SANAM rule that I look for word after preposition 'of'

Because I have a better option in D] which does not have this ambiguity. There is an ing verbal 'a trend placing' But ing verbal does not have a tense of its own and can very well function as absolute modifier in this.

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in choice b] how do we decide 'the majority' is plural.


This is a common-sense decision. "The majority of students entering law school this fall" is clearly not just 1 student, so it's plural.

(More generally, percentages/fractions of a plural group of NOUNs—such as this one—are still going to be plural, and percentages/fractions of a singular NOUN—such as one-third of a chocolate bar—will also be singular.
PLEASE don't just memorize these ideas, though! Make sure they 'click' with your common-sense real-world intuition.)


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D] ... There is an ing verbal 'a trend placing' But ing verbal does not have a tense of its own and can very well function as absolute modifier in this.


_ING modifiers adopt the timeframe of the clause they modify.

In choice D, "a trend ... placing..." modifies "the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women".
That doesn't work, because these two things are NOT simultaneous observations: The trend won't "ultimately place more women in leadership position in politics and business" until those women graduate from law school and work their way to the top of various political and business hierarchies.
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