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lagomez wrote:
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on statement 1, why couldn't you say:
a^3-a <0
=a^3 < a
=a^2<1
= -1<a<1


This is not correct as when you get \(a^2<1\) from \(a^3 < a\), you are reducing (dividing) by a. We cannot divide the inequality by the variable (or by any expression) sign of which is unknown.

This is one of the most frequently used catch from GMAT.

NEVER EVER divide inequality by the variable (or expression with variable) with unknown sign.
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lagomez wrote:
Question:

on statement 1, why couldn't you say:
a^3-a <0
=a^3 < a
=a^2<1
= -1<a<1


This is not correct as when you get \(a^2<1\) from \(a^3 < a\), you are reducing (dividing) by a. We can not divide the inequality by the variable (or by any expression) sign of which is unknown.

This is one of the most frequently used catch from GMAT.

NEVER EVER divide inequality by the variable (or expression with variable) with unknown sign.


Yes, good answer. that gets me every time

what if we are told a>0 in the question
then we can divide?
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Yes, good answer. that gets me every time

what if we are told a>0 in the question
then we can divide?


Not only if we were told that a is positive, but even if we were told that a is negative we could divide. But in this case the question wouldn't make any sense as the question exactly asks if a is positive.
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I wanted to offer my thoughts in case my line of reasoning resonates with someone and helps them better understand.
Ok, so we need to know if a>0.
given,
1. a^3-a<0
i could factor out a from both terms but that may make it complicated, but I ma told that the left hand side is negative, so whatever the value of a, whether positive or negative, I ought to be able to say that a is bigger than a^3, otherwise a^3-a would not be less than 0.
so, a^3<a.
if something is cubed and it is still less than the original something, then something is funky, and not your regular positive whole numbers. it could be fraction, positive or negative, i don't know yet, it could be a negative whole number too i suppose, but i would need to test that. let me do that real quick. clearly, one of the possibilities has to be a positive fraction between 0 and 1 because then it would be say (1/2)^3<1/2. that statement holds. so a can be positive. i just need to check if it can be negative too. what if a is a negative fraction? a=-1/2 say. then -1/8<-1/2. that's not right, so a is not a negative fraction, could it be a negative whole number? instantly, i can see -2 cubed would be -8 is less than -2. so a could be a negative whole or a positive fraction. that doesn't conclusively answer the question. so crossing out statement 1, noting that a could be a positive fraction or negative whole. actually, i am gonna draw it on the number line. ok. circle the 0 to 1 portion and less than -1 portion. moving on.
2.1-a^2>0
ok, instantly i can see that 1 has to be greater than a^2 for their difference to be positive. so without worrying about what sign mumbojumbo, i can say a^2<1. well, i have learned from mgmat advanced quant book that anytime i see a^2<1, i can simply write it as |a|<1 and that i can write it as -1<a<1. so a is between -1 and 1. so a could be positive or negative and doesn't conclusively answer the question. so insufficient.
BUT drawing this statement 2 relation on a number line and comparing it to the earlier number line i drew for statement 1, i can see that there is a common region from 0 to 1. so taken together, i can see that a lies between 0 and 1 which are all positive. and it sufficiently answers the original question, Yes, a>0.
Hope my line of reasoning is not a wrong way that still got the right answer, and I hope it at least makes someone follow and understand the solution to this problem.
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For statement 1 can't you just factor out an a and make it a(a^2-1) where a has to equal zero making it not sufficient?
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hfbamafan wrote:
For statement 1 can't you just factor out an a and make it a(a^2-1) where a has to equal zero making it not sufficient?


Hi,

My 2 cents:

Bunuel's explanation is great. Hats off.
To put all confusion to rest note that we cannot divide both sides both sides of the statement (1) by a, as we don't know whether a is positive or negative.

Hence, bunuel's approach is the logical one.

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I'm confused... Maybe someone can show me where I'm going wrong.
This how I approached (I actually came up with A).

a^3-a<0
a(a^2-1)<0
factors out to a(a-1)(a+1)<0 - so it seems here we have factors that are consecutive, (a-1)(a)(a+1)<0
The only product that would be less than 0 would require all 3 to be negative, so I determined a as negative, which would answer the question "no."

Where am I going wrong?
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I'm confused... Maybe someone can show me where I'm going wrong.
This how I approached (I actually came up with A).

a^3-a<0
a(a^2-1)<0
factors out to a(a-1)(a+1)<0 - so it seems here we have factors that are consecutive, (a-1)(a)(a+1)<0
The only product that would be less than 0 would require all 3 to be negative, so I determined a as negative, which would answer the question "no."

Where am I going wrong?


The product of three multiples to be negative either all three must be negative or one must be negative and other two must be positive.

For more on how to solve such kind of inequalities check:
x2-4x-94661.html#p731476
inequalities-trick-91482.html
everything-is-less-than-zero-108884.html?hilit=extreme#p868863
xy-plane-71492.html?hilit=solving%20quadratic#p841486

Hope it helps.
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Re: Is a>0? (1) a^3-a<0 (2) 1-a^2<0 [#permalink]
Bunuel wrote:
joshhowatt wrote:
I'm confused... Maybe someone can show me where I'm going wrong.
This how I approached (I actually came up with A).

a^3-a<0
a(a^2-1)<0
factors out to a(a-1)(a+1)<0 - so it seems here we have factors that are consecutive, (a-1)(a)(a+1)<0
The only product that would be less than 0 would require all 3 to be negative, so I determined a as negative, which would answer the question "no."

Where am I going wrong?


The product of three multiples to be negative either all three must be negative or one must be negative and other two must be positive.

For more on how to solve such kind of inequalities check:
x2-4x-94661.html#p731476
inequalities-trick-91482.html
everything-is-less-than-zero-108884.html?hilit=extreme#p868863
xy-plane-71492.html?hilit=solving%20quadratic#p841486

Hope it helps.


Exactly...
So if they are consecutive numbers we have a couple of options:

Say the numbers are -1,0,1. This won't work because one is zero, therefore the answer would not be less than 0.

So all three must be negative no?
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joshhowatt wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
joshhowatt wrote:
I'm confused... Maybe someone can show me where I'm going wrong.
This how I approached (I actually came up with A).

a^3-a<0
a(a^2-1)<0
factors out to a(a-1)(a+1)<0 - so it seems here we have factors that are consecutive, (a-1)(a)(a+1)<0
The only product that would be less than 0 would require all 3 to be negative, so I determined a as negative, which would answer the question "no."

Where am I going wrong?


The product of three multiples to be negative either all three must be negative or one must be negative and other two must be positive.

For more on how to solve such kind of inequalities check:
x2-4x-94661.html#p731476
inequalities-trick-91482.html
everything-is-less-than-zero-108884.html?hilit=extreme#p868863
xy-plane-71492.html?hilit=solving%20quadratic#p841486

Hope it helps.


Exactly...
So if they are consecutive numbers we have a couple of options:

Say the numbers are -1,0,1. This won't work because one is zero, therefore the answer would not be less than 0.

So all three must be negative no?


We are not told that the \(a\) is an integer so \(a-1\), \(a\) and \(a+1\) are not necessarily consecutive integers. Please read the solutions above and plug some numbers from the correct ranges to check whether inequality holds true for them.

For example if \(a=\frac{1}{2}\) then \(a^2-a=\frac{1}{8}-\frac{1}{2}=-\frac{3}{8}<0\).

P.S. The links in my previous post might help you to deal with inequalities.
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Re: Is a>0? (1) a^3-a<0 (2) 1-a^2<0 [#permalink]
Statement 1 : a^3-a<0 => a(a^2-1)<0, which can be possible in two cases:
Case 1 : a<0 , a^2 - 1 > 0 Case 2 : a>0 , a^2 - 1 < 0 . Hence, we can't say whether a > 0 .
Statement 2 : 1 - a^2 < 0 => a^2 > 1 , which is again possible in two cases
case 1 : a>0 Case 2: a<0 . Hence, we can't say whether a > 0.

Taking Staement 1 and 2 together : From statement 2 we got to know a^2 > 1 from which using Statement 1 [case 1] we can confirm a<0

Hence Both statements are needed to conclude this.
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Re: Is a>0? (1) a^3-a<0 (2) 1-a^2<0 [#permalink]
Is a>0? Y/N

St1. a^3-a<0 means a(a^2-1)<0

so two options: a>0 & a^2<1 OR a<0 & a^2>1. INSUFF

St2. 1-a^2<0 means a^2>1, so can be a<>0. INSUFF

St1+St2 means that a<0 & a^2>1. SUFF

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Re: Is a > 0 ? [#permalink]
Is a positive?
Statement 1:
a^3-a<0
a^3<a
So either a<-1 or 0<a<1
NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2:
1-a^2>0
1>a^2
So -1<a<1
NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 1 & 2 together :

0<a<1
SUFFICIENT

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Hi kanusha,

Questions like these can be easily solved if you know the process of solving a quadratic inequality. You can go through an article on quadratic inequalities here https://gmatclub.com/forum/inequalities-quadratic-inequalities-231326.html#p1781849

Is a > 0?

Statement 1 : a^3 - a < 0

Simplifying we get
a(a^2 - 1) < 0
a(a - 1)(a + 1) < 0

The critical points here a -1, 0 and +1. Plotting them on the number line and take the regions which are negative.

Attachment:
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So 0 < a < 1 and a < -1

Now a here can either be greater than 0 or less than 0. Insufficient.

Statement 2 : 1 - a^2 > 0

Multiplying throughout by -1 (we always need to keep the variable positive) we get

a^2 - 1 < 0
(a - 1) (a + 1) < 0

The critical points here are -1 and 1. Plotting them on the number line and take the negative regions

Attachment:
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So -1 < a < 1

Here again a can be greater than 0 or less than 0. Insufficient.

Combining 1 and 2 :

From statement 1 we have 0 < a < 1 and a < -1
From statement 2 we have -1 < a < 1

The only range of a that will satisfy both statements combined is 0 < a < 1. Sufficient.

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