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The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, henceforth, the strategy guidelines should be implemented quicker than they had been in the past.

(A) the strategy guidelines should be implemented quicker than they had been in the past
(B) the strategy guidelines should be implemented quicker than they have been in the past
(C) the strategy guidelines should be implemented quicker than they did in the past
(D) the strategy guidelines should be implemented more quickly than they have been in the past
(E) the strategy guidelines should be implemented more quickly than they had been in the past

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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2010, 12:02
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Hey All,

I'd like to weigh in briefly on this question, though in the same spirit of curious examination as the rest of you. This question seems a little bit fishy to me, for reasons I'll try to explain.

The correct use of the past perfect tense on the GMAT requires the existence of a verb in the simple past. As far as I can see, this sentence does not have one. The only verbs we get are "states", which is present tense, and "should be implemented", which is a conditional tense (more like future). Because there is no past tense, I cannot justify the past perfect. You could justify the SIMPLE past "more quickly than they were in the past", but that isn't an answer choice.

I realize the present perfect doesn't feel great, but I'd like to justify it thusly: because of the phrase "in the past", we are actually talking about something that CONTINUES to be true (i.e. it remains true, in the present, that this was going on IN THE PAST). This would lead me to a present perfect verb, as in answer choice D.

My actual preference would be for an answer choice that doesn't exist (as described above, with "were"), but because of the lack of a simple past verb, I don't see answer choice E being correct.

I'm open for debate, but feel confident.

Hope that helps!
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   14 Mar 2009, 12:39
OE says "The adverbial phrase 'more quickly than' is appropriate compared to quicker"
But choosing "had been" and not "have been"(not continuing any more,IMO)
hence OA-E.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   14 Mar 2009, 12:51
nitya34 wrote:
OE says "The adverbial phrase 'more quickly than' is appropriate compared to quicker"
But choosing "had been" and not "have been"(not continuing any more,IMO)
hence OA-E.

Seems to make sense - only that I didn't see a good reason for past perfect (present perfect doesn't work either).
What is a source?
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   14 Mar 2009, 23:46
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I had also chosen D. Nitya , is it given in OE the reason for chosing "had been" over "have been"?
Can sum1 throw light on this?
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OE says "The adverbial phrase 'more quickly than' is appropriate compared to quicker"
But choosing "had been" and not "have been"(not continuing any more,IMO)
hence OA-E.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   15 Mar 2009, 00:45
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because "had been" is used when the action is over
versus "have been" is used when the action continues.

The former suits in this case.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   15 Mar 2009, 01:06
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E
The adverbial phrase 'more quickly than' is appropriate compared to
quicker. A, B, C are out.
"have been in the past" is incorrect expression, because "have been"
means in the past but still taking affect till now , it can not associate
with "past only". D out
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   17 Mar 2009, 04:18
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E
The adverbial phrase 'more quickly than' is appropriate compared to
quicker. A, B, C are out.
"have been in the past" is incorrect expression, because "have been"
means in the past but still taking affect till now , it can not associate
with "past only". D out



Isn't it still effective till date. Thats why the writer say " should be".

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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   27 Jan 2010, 11:24
E.

more quickly is correct and not quicker.
had been implies it is over rather than still continuing (have been)
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   27 Jan 2010, 14:33
guys - i have a small question here -

the question actually talks about the new strategy that has to be implemented is as if it is a continual process going on year after year right - in that case - it should actually be "had been" rather than "have been" right?

am i misunderstanding anything?

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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2010, 07:30
Good thread!

My first choice is D, but at last I think E is the best one. Because it had been finished already in the past.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   23 Feb 2010, 14:36
TommyWallach wrote:
Hey All,

I'd like to weigh in briefly on this question, though in the same spirit of curious examination as the rest of you. This question seems a little bit fishy to me, for reasons I'll try to explain.

The correct use of the past perfect tense on the GMAT requires the existence of a verb in the simple past. As far as I can see, this sentence does not have one. The only verbs we get are "states", which is present tense, and "should be implemented", which is a conditional tense (more like future). Because there is no past tense, I cannot justify the past perfect. You could justify the SIMPLE past "more quickly than they were in the past", but that isn't an answer choice.

I realize the present perfect doesn't feel great, but I'd like to justify it thusly: because of the phrase "in the past", we are actually talking about something that CONTINUES to be true (i.e. it remains true, in the present, that this was going on IN THE PAST). This would lead me to a present perfect verb, as in answer choice D.

My actual preference would be for an answer choice that doesn't exist (as described above, with "were"), but because of the lack of a simple past verb, I don't see answer choice E being correct.

I'm open for debate, but feel confident.

Hope that helps!


agree with Tommy.ans has to be D
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   23 Feb 2010, 16:24
I went for (D) as well. I think the source needs to be checked on this one.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   23 Feb 2010, 20:51
I agree that had been is correct but what is the difference between more quickly than and quicker than?

What is the reson that A is incorrect?
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   24 Feb 2010, 03:48
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Hey There,

"Quicker" is not technically a word, though it has moved into common speech. On the GMAT, you can't use "quicker", only "more quickly" as the comparative of "quick".

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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   24 Feb 2010, 21:09
I also agree with Tommy and prefer D to E.
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   01 Feb 2011, 06:06
Hi ,I would go for E.
It is not always true that you need to have a explicit past tense verb in a sentence to justify the use of past perfect . The explicit mention of the word 'past' does the work of the past tense and any action performed prior to that should be referred as past perfect .
hence E is correct .
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   01 Feb 2011, 08:30
I agree with you Tommy, but I have gone with E because I thouht that I am not suppose to change the meaning of the original sentence. If it want to indicate to past, I have selected E between E and D. But reading your thoughts now I got confused between D and E, but still I will go with E (I think we should keep the intended meaning of the author in the case of the selection of the tense.)
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   01 Feb 2011, 22:12
TommyWallach wrote:
Hey There,

"Quicker" is not technically a word, though it has moved into common speech. On the GMAT, you can't use "quicker", only "more quickly" as the comparative of "quick".

Word.


Thanks.. that's one of the reasons why I missed this problem :x
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Re: The Sunrise policy at Melvin Prexart & Co states that, [#permalink] New post   04 Feb 2012, 11:39
(D) the strategy guidelines should be implemented more quickly than they have been in the past
(E) the strategy guidelines should be implemented more quickly than they had been in the past

I am really confused ... both had\have refer to strategy guidelines (am I right?)

if I am right then ans should be d and not e because "strategy guidelines" is plural and requires have.
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