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Calling all HBS 2011 Applicants!! (Including 2+2)
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Harvard Business School Application for the class of 2013 is online. This thread will also serve as a master thread for the 2+2 applicants for the class of 2016 (June 2011 Applicants!) APPLICANTS: Please fill out your stats in the Google Doc attached and keep updating your information whenever you see fit! We will keep this thread updated as well
To be considered for admission, an applicant must complete the following prerequisites:
* Junior year of undergraduate academic experience, or equivalent * Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT) or Graduate Record Examination (GRE) taken 6/15/05, or later * Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) or International English Language Testing System (IELTS) taken 6/15/08, or later, if you are an international applicant attending a non-English-speaking undergraduate university * Submission of a complete online application for evaluation by June 15, 2010
GENERAL APPLICATION INFORMATION:
1. Essay Questions:
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Required Questions
* What are your three most substantial accomplishments and why do you view them as such? (600-word limit) * What would you like us to know about your undergraduate academic experience? (400-word limit) * What have you learned from a mistake? (400-word limit)
Please also respond to one of the following (400-word limit each):
1. Discuss how you have engaged with a community or organization. 2. What area of the world are you most curious about and why? 3. What is your career vision and why is this choice meaningful to you?
2. Application Deadlines:
To be announced for the Summer of 2011. For the Summer of 2010 class:
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2+2 Application Available Online: April 12, 2010 2+2 Application Submission: June 15, 2010 [Interview Invites to be sent out: July 19th, 2010] 2+2 Interviews (on-campus and by invitation only): August 18 - 24, 2010 2+2 Admissions Notification: Early September 2010
3. Letters of Recommendation:
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* Please comment on the context of your interaction with the applicant. How long have you known the applicant and in what connection? If applicable, briefly describe the applicant's role in your organization. * Please describe the most important piece of constructive feedback you have given the applicant. Please detail the circumstances and the applicant's response. * Please make additional statements about the applicant's performance, potential, or personal qualities you believe would be helpful to the MBA Admissions Board.
4. Sandy's Advice for Students Applying to 2+2:
hbsguru wrote:
A Shrewd Undergraduate's Guide to HBS Admissions Published, THE HARVARD CRIMSON, April 20th 2008
Sanford Kreisberg is the founder of hbsguru.com, a business school admissions consultancy. He has advised scores of Harvard graduates about applying to HBS over the past 10 years . . . .
1. Try to have a high GPA and do not fall for the canard that the admissions committee is aware of hard courses, and will give you a break. They are aware of A, B, and C. They have no idea if Post-Modern Feminist Approaches to Derivative Trading is a hard course or a gut. Take a lot of guts, and use the extra time to explore extra activities. Do not innocently engage in learning for 'learning sake' --although certainly say you do. Do not take introductory Arabic or Chinese because they sound contemporary and important, especially when most kids in those classes will be native speakers looking for guts. Do not take some super-duper math course because it sounds 'interesting.'
2. Try to have a high GMAT, but HBS is not obsessed with this; they are more concerned with your GPA, and will not get too shook up with a 680 or even a 660 GMAT if they 'otherwise love you' and that can apply to even non-minorities. A 720 GMAT is normative, a 750 won't help you as much as you think, and a jumbo 770+ is a nice touch, especially if a keystone of your application is that you are smart or quanty.
3. Be strategic about extracurriculars: try to be a leader. Try to find an issue where you can lead based on interests or identity politics. Think about Miss America, where each finalist has some 'signature' issue like overcoming learning disabilities or improving inner-city education. Get a signature issue of your own. Leading a club based on your ethnicity, personal concerns, diseases, or political ideas is good. Try to be innovative and expand the organization's programs and membership.
4. Be a work in progress. HBS is obsessed with 'transforming' its students, so the persona you should present in your application is someone who is both focused and accomplished, yet open to change. You don't need to be overly interested in business per se; rather, you need to be interested in the intersection of your personal passion, signature issue, or academic interest with the potential social impact. Thus, if you have a passion for biology, you would do better presenting yourself as someone interested in how biology can cure disease among groups a, b, or c, rather than someone obsessed with Biotech companies and their relative stock values. HBS will "transform" you into the latter.
5. For the 2+2 program, which is new, it is better to pretend to be 'out of it' about business than someone who has been obsessed with business ever since your grandfather gave you 100 shares of General Electric for your 10th birthday. HBS is looking for science and artsy kids who otherwise, without HBS's wonderful 2+2 program, never would have thought about business, and would have gone to (gasp) law school. So, be a techie who was happy being a nerd until, poof, 2+2 came along, and then you discovered you could be a business nerd. Think transformation.
6. In your essays, show what makes you tick; the essays are not brag sheets. Don't list what you did so much as account for how you were effective getting others, like professors and other students, to help you. Think Tom Sawyer. Get the others to help you paint the fence. Don't brag about raising money for charity, but explain how you convinced 20 other kids to help you raise money for charity.
* What are your three most substantial accomplishments and why do you view them as such? (600-word limit) * What have you learned from a mistake? (400-word limit) * Please respond to two of the following (400-word limit each): 1. What would you like the MBA Admissions Board to know about your undergraduate academic experience? 2. What is your career vision and why is this choice meaningful to you? 3. Tell us about a time in your professional experience when you were frustrated or disappointed. 4. When you join the HBS Class of 2013, how will you introduce yourself to your new classmates?
Joint degree applicants:
* How do you expect the joint degree experience to benefit you on both a professional and a personal level? (400-word limit)
2. Application Deadlines:
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Round 1 Friday, October 1, 2010 Tuesday, December 14, 2010 (Notification) Round 2 Tuesday, January 11, 2011 Tuesday, March 29, 2011 (Notification) Round 3 Thursday, March 31, 2011 Thursday, May 5, 2011 (Notification)
3. Letters of Recommendation:
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Recommendations must be completed online. The form includes the following three essay response questions, along with other types of questions.
* Please comment on the context of your interaction with the applicant. How long have you known the applicant and in what connection? If applicable, briefly describe the applicant's role in your organization. (250-word limit) * Please describe the most important piece of constructive feedback you have given the applicant. Please detail the circumstances and the applicant's response. (250-word limit) * Please make additional statements about the applicant's performance, potential, or personal qualities you believe would be helpful to the MBA Admissions Board. (250-word limit)
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HBS 2+2 INTERVIEW PREP
no--dont get nervous, the HBS 2+2 program has not sent out interview invites yet, and last year, those invites cames out around July 20th, for interviews in late August. They will probably follow ~same timing this year. All that said, for those thinking about 2+2 interviews, see below
I've done a lot of HBS 2+2 mock interviews: Since the 2+2 program began, HBS has probably interviewed close to 450-500 2+2 candidates in total and I have done mock interviews with close to 20 of them --and that is just the 2+2 program.
Last year, for its regular admission cycle, HBS interviewed 1800 people--I gave mock interviews to over 100 of those 1800 people.
I really know how to do this, read testimonials below.
Over the past 10 years, I have probably done over 600 HBS mock interviews. My knowledge of how to prepare you for an HBS mock interview is based on those experiences.
I KNOW QUESTIONS TYPICALLY ASKED TO 2+2 CANDIDATES, BOTH US AND INTERNATIONAL--THOSE WHO ARE LIBERAL ARTS MAJORS, SOCIAL SCIENCE MAJORS, AND SCIENCE MAJORS.
I know typical HBS questions often asked to 2+2 candidates with summer work experience as investment bankers, venture capital and hedge fund associates, medical and lab researchers, non-profit interns, Washington interns, Obama interns, McCain interns, Palin nannies and sled dog wranglers, interns at Fortune 500 companies, interns at start-ups and kids who started their own companies. I know how to help you formulate your core story in ways which can be applied to many questions. I can predict trouble areas in your application and help you come up with talking points to deal with them. I can sense what your particular needs are in terms of presentation, for example, if you don't get to the point soon enough (a possibly fatal habit) or if you appear too aggressive or too arrogant or confident in the wrong way for often thin-skinned (and just plain thin) HBS interviewers (some of whom are predisposed not to like bankers). I can help you create a back story for your goals which creates a solid platform for Why MBA, Why HBS? can help you prepare a strong answer to the question "Why should we take you?" This questions is often asked in several forms: "What can YOU contribute to case method discussion based on background and experience?" "How will your classmates remember you?" "How have you grown as a leader?" I can calm you down, although that will not be the first thing that happens. I can help you formulate answers to 'ice-breaker' questions such as: "I already know you from your application, just tell me what you think the three defining moments in your life are?" "Pretend I have not read your application and I just met you. Tell me who you are, what you've done, and where you want to be 15 years?" I can help prepare you to face such recently popular questions as: "What is one thing that is not immediately apparent about you to others?" "How would your friends describe you?" "How has the financial crisis impacted you, your friends, your industry and your goals?" THE PROCESS:THE MOCK INTERVIEW IS DONE BY PHONE. If you want a mock HBS interview, send me an email to hbsguru.com, telling me when your interview is, what time zone you are in, what days and times are good for you, and attaching a resume. I will reply back w. dates and times, etc. Then you send me a pdf of your HBS application and we set up a time for the interview. Mock interviews take about 60-70 minutes. The price is $300.00 dollars USD. You pay me when we speak and do the interview.
Re: Calling all HBS 2011 Applicants!! (Including 2+2)
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Program: 2+2 School: Stanford Major: Computer Science with specialization in AI Minor: Math Year: Rising Junior GPA: 3.52(Fr=3.21, Soph=3.79) Work Experience: Software Engineering Intern (Qualcomm last summer, Google this summer) GMAT: 750 Q50 V41 Nationality: African American/White ECs: NSBE Outreach chair, Undergraduate Senate Intern, Social Chair Sigma Chi
Will my freshman year GPA hut me too much? Should I retake the GMAT(I know I can do better on the Verbal)? Also, it's going to be weird getting a second recommendation. I guess I'll try hard to get to know a professor well first quarter of next year. Any advice or thoughts are welcomed. Thanks
Originally posted by csguy12 on 29 Jun 2010, 15:53.
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Re: Calling all HBS 2011 Applicants!! (Including 2+2)
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P.S: csguy12, I think you have a pretty solid profile. I wouldn't advice on retaking the GMAT since 750 is a really good score and it'd just seem like you're too score obsessed, IMO. You can try getting a rec from each of your two supervisors, or from someone from your ECs? When did you take your GMAT?
Originally posted by whiplash2411 on 29 Jun 2010, 16:44.
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2+2 INTERVIEW INVITES WILL BE SENT OUT ON JULY 19TH AS BLOG ENTRY BELOW FROM HER ROYAL HIGHNESS, DEE LEOPOLD, MAKES CLEAR-- AND JUST WHO PREDICTED THAT --WITHIN ONE DAY--IN POST ABOVE https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html#post-2010-06-29
School: Stanford Major: Computer Science with specialization in AI Minor: Math Year: Rising Junior GPA: 3.52(Fr=3.21, Soph=3.79) Work Experience: Software Engineering Intern (Qualcomm last summer, Google this summer) GMAT: 750 Q50 V41 Nationality: African American/White ECs: NSBE Outreach chair, Undergraduate Senate Intern, Social Chair Sigma Chi
Will my freshman year GPA hut me too much? Should I retake the GMAT(I know I can do better on the Verbal)? Also, it's going to be weird getting a second recommendation. I guess I'll try hard to get to know a professor well first quarter of next year. Any advice or thoughts are welcomed. Thanks
Awesome profile! You may not want to hear this, but I'd look closely at the GSB at Stanford. After visiting HBS, I can honestly say that it is a very, VERY different environment from your undergrad institution -- especially when it comes to tech and entrepreneurship (the things I'm guessing you're interested in). You'll probably get in both programs (barring some terrible essays), so there's no need to jump to HBS just because of the 2+2 program. Stanford is more than happy to defer you for two years -- or let you in as an undergrad!
I also understand that you might want a change of scenery... but be sure to visit HBS for a few days DURING CLASSES to get a sense of the environment.
And don't worry about the GPA -- yours is absolutely fine. A weak freshman year is nothing these admissions committees haven't seen before.
Going to HBS this fall, class of 2012. Best of luck to all of you with the applications. If you have any questions, feel free to message me. I'm not hbsguru, but at least I got in without the use of admission consultants so I must have done something right.
I am native Indian, currently working in the US for a consulting firm. I completed my undergrad in India from an English medium university (and so was my entire schooling). I have done my GMAT. But do I need to give TOEFL?
I saw the harvard website and it says: "Candidates who received their bachelor's degree from an English-speaking university are not required to take an English language test (i.e., they are exempt)."
So does that mean I am exempt from giving TOEFL? But how would they know whether I did my undergrad from from an English university? I just have a certificate of my bachelor's degree in English.
I can always check up with the school but thought will get some first hand comments from this forum.
I would advise you to do the TOEFL. But HBS has examples of who needs to get a certificate and who doesn't on their website somewhere. But I think you might be okay. Depends on whether your university is well recognized, as well. But IMHO, taking the TOEFL > not taking it.
I am native Indian, currently working in the US for a consulting firm. I completed my undergrad in India from an English medium university (and so was my entire schooling). I have done my GMAT. But do I need to give TOEFL?
I saw the harvard website and it says: "Candidates who received their bachelor's degree from an English-speaking university are not required to take an English language test (i.e., they are exempt)."
So does that mean I am exempt from giving TOEFL? But how would they know whether I did my undergrad from from an English university? I just have a certificate of my bachelor's degree in English.
I can always check up with the school but thought will get some first hand comments from this forum.
Thank you
When you request for transcripts from your university, they usually mention the medium of instruction. If that is the case, you need not take TOEFL. My university does and I see no reason why yours shouldn't.
@kingshark - good catch i checked my transcript. it mentions on one of its pages that the medium of the instructions during the period of study is english. so that saves me one big to-do on my list!
@whiplash - still contemplating which schools to apply. as soon as i decide, per your suggestion, i will update my information in the sheet.
HBS entering class by year of college grad OFFICIAL HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL CHART OF COLLEGE YEAR OF GRADUATION FOR CLASS ENTERING THIS SEPTEMBER
YOUTH JIHAD –THE LIVING PROOF.
THESE STATS FROM HBS WEBSITE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME DISTRIBUTION AS THE PAST 4 YEARS OR SO.
https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html#post-2010-07-07 SO IF YOU ARE APPLYING THIS YEAR, CLASS OF 2005 BECOMES THE DEAD ZONE, E.G. HUGE DROP OFF FROM THE SWEET SPOT–WHICH FOR THIS YEAR IS CLASSES OF 2006, 2007, 2008. NOTE THAT OF THE 113 PEEPS OUTSIDE THE SWEET SPOT (ON THE GEEZER SIDE), WE ARE TALKING SORTA 40 MILITARY, 10-15 MDS, 10-15 PHDS IN BIOSCIENCE ETC. SO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF NORMAL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP IS MAYBE 40, MOST OF WHOM ARE IN VERY NEXT CLASS, THIS YEAR, 2005.
ALSO NOTE WILD CARD: NEXT YEAR THE FIRST 2+2 INFANTS ARRIVE –TO WIT, 106 KIDS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED AND ARE COLLEGE CLASS OF 2008, NOT SURE IF THAT WILL SWELL THE SWEET SPOT EVEN MORE, IF HBS WILL INCREASE ENROLLMENT (DONT THINK SO) OR WHAAAA–INCLUDING JUST TAKING 106 LESS KIDS ACROSS THE ENTIRE AGE BRACKETS, WHICH WLD STILL HAVE IMPACT OF MAKING CLASS EVEN YOUNGER.
BruceLee: I don't think you should do it directly. Maybe show a connection to the HBS principles and values, and you should be good.
hbsguru: I think the first 2+2 admit letters went out September 2008, which means they're the graduating class of 2009 aye? (Admit letters go out fall semester of senior year, and most people graduate spring semester).
So, Spring 2009 + 2 years = Spring 2011, and they'll enter in the class of 2013, I suppose?
Just wondering if you knew anything about how the class size will be affected? Will the admits from the regular rounds go down to 800 instead of 900? Or is it more likely for them to increase class size? Random question, really.
hbsguru wrote:
HBS entering class by year of college grad OFFICIAL HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL CHART OF COLLEGE YEAR OF GRADUATION FOR CLASS ENTERING THIS SEPTEMBER
YOUTH JIHAD –THE LIVING PROOF.
THESE STATS FROM HBS WEBSITE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME DISTRIBUTION AS THE PAST 4 YEARS OR SO.
https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html#post-2010-07-07 SO IF YOU ARE APPLYING THIS YEAR, CLASS OF 2005 BECOMES THE DEAD ZONE, E.G. HUGE DROP OFF FROM THE SWEET SPOT–WHICH FOR THIS YEAR IS CLASSES OF 2006, 2007, 2008. NOTE THAT OF THE 113 PEEPS OUTSIDE THE SWEET SPOT (ON THE GEEZER SIDE), WE ARE TALKING SORTA 40 MILITARY, 10-15 MDS, 10-15 PHDS IN BIOSCIENCE ETC. SO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF NORMAL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP IS MAYBE 40, MOST OF WHOM ARE IN VERY NEXT CLASS, THIS YEAR, 2005.
ALSO NOTE WILD CARD: NEXT YEAR THE FIRST 2+2 INFANTS ARRIVE –TO WIT, 106 KIDS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED AND ARE COLLEGE CLASS OF 2008, NOT SURE IF THAT WILL SWELL THE SWEET SPOT EVEN MORE, IF HBS WILL INCREASE ENROLLMENT (DONT THINK SO) OR WHAAAA–INCLUDING JUST TAKING 106 LESS KIDS ACROSS THE ENTIRE AGE BRACKETS, WHICH WLD STILL HAVE IMPACT OF MAKING CLASS EVEN YOUNGER.
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