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My approach:

32^32^32 -- \(2^5\)^\(2^5\)^\(2^5\)

=> 2^800

\((2^x)/7\) has a cyclicity or repeatability of 3.
That is \((2^1)/7 - 2\), \((2^2)/7- 4\), \((2^3)/7 - 1\) .....

Hence (2^800)/7 boils down to the same as \((2^2)/7\) which is 4.

Answer is 4 (B).

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How you got 2^800? read the question carefully.

Just quote my question and see how I have used the mathematical operation for the powers. This way you can represent them better as your solution is quite difficult to understand.
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gurpreetsingh wrote:
How you got 2^800? read the question carefully.

Just quote my question and see how I have used the mathematical operation for the powers. This way you can represent them better as your solution is quite difficult to understand.


Got it. Here is the updated post.

\(32^{{32}^{32}\) -- \({{2^5}^{{2^5}^{2^5}}}\)

\({{2^5}^{2^5}}\) is \({2^{160}}\).

Again \({{2^{160}}^{32}}\) is \({2^{5120}}\)

(2^x)/7 has a cyclicity or repeatability of 3.
That is \({2^1}/7 - 2\), \({2^2}/7- 4\), \({2^3}/7 - 1\) .....

Hence \({2^{5120}}/7\) boils down to the same as \({2^{2}}/7\) which is 4.

Answer is 4 (B).
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How you got 2^800? read the question carefully.

Just quote my question and see how I have used the mathematical operation for the powers. This way you can represent them better as your solution is quite difficult to understand.


Got it. Here is the updated post.

\(32^{{32}^{32}\) -- \({{2^5}^{{2^5}^{2^5}}}\)

\({{2^5}^{2^5}}\) is \({2^{160}}\).

Again \({{2^{160}}^{32}}\) is \({2^{5120}}\)

(2^x)/7 has a cyclicity or repeatability of 3.
That is \({2^1}/7 - 2\), \({2^2}/7- 4\), \({2^3}/7 - 1\) .....

Hence \({2^{5120}}/7\) boils down to the same as \({2^{2}}/7\) which is 4.

Answer is 4 (B).


Take my advice when ever you solve your question always check the scope and domain.

do you think \(32^{32^{32}}\) can be equal to \({2^{5120}}\) ?

\(32^{32^{32}}\) = \(2^{5*{32^{32}}}\)

as per your calculation

\(2^{5*{32^{32}}}\) should be equal to \({2^{5120}}\)
=> \(5*{32^{32}}\) should be equal to 5120. ? This is wrong.

Just cross check always whether you are making right moves or not.
I hope you know your mistake now?
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gurpreetsingh wrote:
What is the remainder when \(32^{32^{32}}\) is divided by 7?

A. 5
B. 4
C. 2
D. 0
E. 1

Please do not just post the answer, do explain as well.

I will post the Answer and the explanation after some replies.


Is the answer B?

Intuitively, i did it like this.

32^32^32 = (28+4)^32^32
As 28 is divisible by 7, we dont need to worry about that part. Hence for the purpose of remainder,
our equation boils down to 4^32^32

The cyclicity of 4 is 3 when divided by 7, hence we need to think about the value of 32^32 and what remainder it leaves when divided by 3.

Considering 32^32, it can be broken into (30+2)^32. Again 30^32 is divisible by 3. Hence we need to focus on 2^32.
2^32 can be written as (2*2)^31 = (3+1)^31. As 3^31 is also divisible by 3, we will be left with 1^31.
Thus 1 would be the remainder when 32^32 is divided by 3.

This implies that 4 will be the remainder when divided by 7.
Hence Answer is B.

Do let me know if i am wrong in my thinking.

Thanks.
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32^32^32 % 7 = ?

I am using Euler's method, search on wikipedia if you need proof, else try to follow the steps :

HCF(32,7) = 1
"phi" 7 = 6 (it is the number of positive integers less than 7 and prime to 7.. In fact for any prime number "n", it will be "n-1").

=> 32^6 mod 7 = 1 (mod is same as "%")

(To make sure you understand it, please try for any number n!=7, n^6 mod 7 = 1)

So, we now need to express, 32^32 = 6x+k

i.e. 32^32 % 6 = ?

To make it easier, lets try to find out 16^32 % 3 and multiply the remainder by 4 (since 32 and 6 has a common factor 2, and also it is easier/helpful to get a remainder divided by a prime number)

Apply the same approach as shown above :
HCF(16,3) = 1
"phi" 3 = 2

=> 16^2 mod 3 = 1
=> 16^32 mod 3 = 1 => 32^32 mod 6 = 4*1 = 4

So, 32^32 mod 6 = 6y+4

Therefore;
32^32^32 mod 7 = 32^(6y+4) mod 7 = 32^4 mod 7 = (28+4)^4 mod 7 = 4^4 mod 7 = 4

(Hopefully, I didn't make any typo.... Let me know if there is any problem with understanding this)

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anshumishra : Its good if you know Euler theorem. The theorem is Fermat's little theorem that uses Euler theorem.

Guys you do not have to learn all these theorems for Gmat, if you know then its good if not then also you can solve this question using basics of remainders.Do not panic.

When 32^32 is divided by 6 the remainder is 4 not 2. Please check your solution.

32^32 when divided by 6 gives remainder same as when 2^32 is divided by 6

=> 2^32 mod 6 = \((2^{5*{6}} )* (2^2)\) mod 6 = 32^6 * 4 mod 6

= 2^6 *4 mod 6 = 2^5 * 2^3 mod 6 = 2*2 = 4
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Hi,

I'm new here. First, I wanted to say thank you to everyone for all of the awesome questions and explanations throughout the forum.

Second, here are my explanations for the three questions that have been posted.

R{x/y} represents remainder of x divided by y.
R{(ab)/y} = R{ (R{a/y}*R{b/y}) / y} <---- I found this on one of the forum posts.
Therefore, R{(a^c)/y} = R{(R{a/y}^c) / y} <---- I used a nested version of this on all three problems.

Problem 1)
R{32^(32^32)/7}
= R{(R{(R{32/7}^32) / 7}^32) / 7} <-------- R{32/7} = 4
= R{(R{( 4 ^32) / 7}^32) / 7} <-------- R{(4^32)/7} = 2, (R cycles 4,2,1,4,2,1...)
= R{( 2 ^32) / 7} <-------- R{(2^32)/7} = 4, (R cycles, 2,4,1,2,4,1...)
= 4

Problem 2)
R{32^(32^32)/9}
= R{(R{(R{32/9}^32) / 9}^32) / 9} <-------- R{32/9} = 5
= R{(R{( 5 ^32) / 9}^32) / 9} <-------- R{(5^32)/9} = 7, (R cycles 5,7,8,4,2,1,5...)
= R{( 7 ^32) / 9} <-------- R{(7^32)/9} = 4, (R cycles, 7,4,1,7,4,1...)
= 4

Problem 3)
R{11^(11^(11^(11^(11...etc))))/4}
= R{(R{(R{11/4}^11) / 4}^11....etc.) / 4} <-------- R{11/4} = 3
= R{(R{( 3 ^11) / 3}^11....etc.) / 4} <-------- R{(3^11)/4} = 3, (R cycles 3,1,3,1...)
= R{( 3 ^11....etc.) / 4} <-------- R{(3^11)/4} = 3, (R cycles, 3,1,3,1...)
= 3
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What is the remainder when \(32^{32^{32}}\) is divided by 7?

A. 5
B. 4
C. 2
D. 0
E. 1

Please do not just post the answer, do explain as well.

Check the solution here : tough-remainder-question-100316.html#p774893


Guys, found one more method to solve the problem

32^32^32

=(28+4)^32^32

28^32^32 is divisible by seven and we are only concerned about 4^32^32= 4^2^160= 2^2^161

Now 2^161= 2^10^6 X 2^1
= 1024^6X2^1

last digit of 1024^6 will be last didgit of 4^6 i.e 2^12 i.e 2^10X 2^2 i.e 1024X4 hence last digit of 1024^6 will be( 4X4 =16 ) 6

last digit of 1024^6X2=> 6X2=12 => 2
thus equation boils down to 2^2= 4 divided by 7 , reminder will be 4 the ans.

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Now 2^161= 2^10^6 X 2^1
= 1024^6X2^1



Definitely a good effort but how did you get this?

This is how I would do it using binomial theorem:

\(32^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

\((28 + 4)^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

We need to figure out \(4^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7
We know that 64 is 1 more than a multiple of 7 and that \(4^3 = 64\)

But how many 3s do we have in \(32^{32}\)?
\(32^{32} = (33 - 1)^{32}\) so when we divide \(32^{32}\) by 3, we get a remainder of 1.

\(4^{32^{32}} = 4^{3x+1} = 4*4^{3x} = 4*64^x = 4*(63+1)^x\)

When this is divided by 7, remainder is 4.
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What is the remainder when \(32^{32^{32}}\) is divided by 7?

A. 5
B. 4
C. 2
D. 0
E. 1

Please do not just post the answer, do explain as well.

Check the solution here : tough-remainder-question-100316.html#p774893


2^5(32)(32)

2^1/7 = Remainder = 2
2^2 /7 = Remainder = 4
2 ^3 /7 = Remainder= 1
16/7 = Remainder = 2
32/7 = Remainder 4
the process continues

When we divide the power 5(32)(32) by three we get: + 2 remainder hence the remainder will be the second one in the series which is 4.
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:

This is how I would do it using binomial theorem:

\(32^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

\((28 + 4)^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

We need to figure out \(4^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7
We know that 64 is 1 more than a multiple of 7 and that \(4^3 = 64\)

But how many 3s do we have in \(32^{32}\)?
\(32^{32} = (33 - 1)^{32}\) so when we divide \(32^{32}\) by 3, we get a remainder of 1.

\(4^{32^{32}} = 4^{3x+1} = 4*4^{3x} = 4*64^x = 4*(63+1)^x\)

When this is divided by 7, remainder is 4.


Hi Karishma,

Is it always better to avoid subtraction when using binomial theorem? Here is my approach, and I found that if there is a negative sign in the equation, things can get a little bit complicated.

\(32^{32^{32}}\) = \((35-3)^{32^{32}}\)

Now we only care about \((-3)^{32^{32}} = 3^{32^{32}}\)

We know that 27 is 1 less than a multiple of 1 and that \(3^{3} = 27\)

\(32^{32} = (33-1)^{32}\)
Hence \(3^{32^{32}} = 3^{3x+1} = 3*3^{3x} = 3*27^{x} = 3*(28-1)^x\)

Here we have to check whether x is even or not in order to decide the value of the remainder (whether it is 3 or 4).
One additional step: Since 32 is even, \(32^{32}\) is even. \(32^{32} = 3x+1\) therefore \(x\) is odd.

We now can conclude that r = -3. Therefore r = 4.

My question is: 'Is it always safer to avoid subtraction when it comes to binomial theorem?'
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:

This is how I would do it using binomial theorem:

\(32^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

\((28 + 4)^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7

We need to figure out \(4^{32^{32}}\) divided by 7
We know that 64 is 1 more than a multiple of 7 and that \(4^3 = 64\)

But how many 3s do we have in \(32^{32}\)?
\(32^{32} = (33 - 1)^{32}\) so when we divide \(32^{32}\) by 3, we get a remainder of 1.

\(4^{32^{32}} = 4^{3x+1} = 4*4^{3x} = 4*64^x = 4*(63+1)^x\)

When this is divided by 7, remainder is 4.


Hi Karishma,

Is it always better to avoid subtraction when using binomial theorem? Here is my approach, and I found that if there is a negative sign in the equation, things can get a little bit complicated.

\(32^{32^{32}}\) = \((35-3)^{32^{32}}\)

Now we only care about \((-3)^{32^{32}} = 3^{32^{32}}\)

We know that 27 is 1 less than a multiple of 1 and that \(3^{3} = 27\)

\(32^{32} = (33-1)^{32}\)
Hence \(3^{32^{32}} = 3^{3x+1} = 3*3^{3x} = 3*27^{x} = 3*(28-1)^x\)

Here we have to check whether x is even or not in order to decide the value of the remainder (whether it is 3 or 4).
One additional step: Since 32 is even, \(32^{32}\) is even. \(32^{32} = 3x+1\) therefore \(x\) is odd.

We now can conclude that r = -3. Therefore r = 4.

My question is: 'Is it always safer to avoid subtraction when it comes to binomial theorem?'
Thank you Karishma!


Yes, if given a choice, one should prefer addition - not only is it easier, it's less prone to error. Here, (28+4) and (35 - 3) were equivalent so I used (28+4). Obviously, in a case such as (35 - 1), one would use subtraction.
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What is the remainder when \(32^{32^{32}}\) is divided by 7?

A. 5
B. 4
C. 2
D. 0
E. 1

Please do not just post the answer, do explain as well.

I will post the Answer and the explanation after some replies.


If we use the above approach I'd work with prime as a base.

\(32^{{32}^{32}}=(28+4)^{{32}^{32}}\) now if we expand this, all terms but the last one will have 28 as a multiple and thus will be divisible by 7. The last term will be \(4^{{32}^{32}}=4^{{(2^5)}^{32}}=4^{2^{160}}=2^{2^{161}}\). So we should find the remainder when \(2^{2^{161}}\) is divided by 7.

2^1 divided by 7 yields remainder of 2;
2^2 divided by 7 yields remainder of 4;
2^3 divided by 7 yields remainder of 1;

2^4 divided by 7 yields remainder of 2;
2^5 divided by 7 yields remainder of 4;
2^6 divided by 7 yields remainder of 1;
...

The remainder repeats the pattern of 3: 2-4-1.

So we should find \(2^{161}\) (the power of 2) is 1st, 2nd or 3rd number in the above pattern of 3. \(2^{161}\) is 2 in odd power, 2 in odd power gives remainder of 2 when divided by cyclicity number 3, so it's the second number in pattern. Which means that remainder of \(2^{2^{161}}\) divided by 7 would be the same as \(2^2\) divided by 7. \(2^2\) divided by 7 yields remainder of 4.

Answer: B.

Similar problem: remainder-99724.html?hilit=expand%20this,%20all%20terms#p768816

Hope it's clear.


4^{{32}^{32}}=4^{{(2^5)}^{32}}=4^{2^{160}}=2^{2^{161}}

how does it change to 161?????
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Bunuel wrote:
gurpreetsingh wrote:
What is the remainder when \(32^{32^{32}}\) is divided by 7?

A. 5
B. 4
C. 2
D. 0
E. 1

Please do not just post the answer, do explain as well.

I will post the Answer and the explanation after some replies.


If we use the above approach I'd work with prime as a base.

\(32^{{32}^{32}}=(28+4)^{{32}^{32}}\) now if we expand this, all terms but the last one will have 28 as a multiple and thus will be divisible by 7. The last term will be \(4^{{32}^{32}}=4^{{(2^5)}^{32}}=4^{2^{160}}=2^{2^{161}}\). So we should find the remainder when \(2^{2^{161}}\) is divided by 7.

2^1 divided by 7 yields remainder of 2;
2^2 divided by 7 yields remainder of 4;
2^3 divided by 7 yields remainder of 1;

2^4 divided by 7 yields remainder of 2;
2^5 divided by 7 yields remainder of 4;
2^6 divided by 7 yields remainder of 1;
...

The remainder repeats the pattern of 3: 2-4-1.

So we should find \(2^{161}\) (the power of 2) is 1st, 2nd or 3rd number in the above pattern of 3. \(2^{161}\) is 2 in odd power, 2 in odd power gives remainder of 2 when divided by cyclicity number 3, so it's the second number in pattern. Which means that remainder of \(2^{2^{161}}\) divided by 7 would be the same as \(2^2\) divided by 7. \(2^2\) divided by 7 yields remainder of 4.

Answer: B.

Similar problem: remainder-99724.html?hilit=expand%20this,%20all%20terms#p768816

Hope it's clear.


4^{{32}^{32}}=4^{{(2^5)}^{32}}=4^{2^{160}}=2^{2^{161}}

how does it change to 161?????


Hi,
I'll try to explain to you..
\(4^{2^{160}}= {2^{2*2^{160}}={2^{2^{160+1}}=2^{2^{161}}\)

Hope it helps
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Hi,

Before I explain you this Q, I will just explain the Binomial theorem--



\((a + b)^n = nC0 a^n + nC1 a^{n − 1}b + nC2 a^{n − 2}b^2 + nC3 a^{n − 3}b^3+.....nC(n-1)b^{n − 1}a + nC0 b^n\)
so if you look at this whatever be the power 'n' be, its all terms will be div by a, except one term nC0 b^n, same is the case with div by b..

EXAMPLE--
\((x+5)^4 = x^4 + 20x^3 + 150x^2 + 500x + 625\)
here all terms except 625 will be div by x and all terms except x^4 wil be div by 5..

lets use this to hep in finding remainders..



When \({{32}^{32}}^{32}\) is div by 7..
we know 8=7+1..
lets convert in this form..

\({{2^5}^{32}}^{32}\)=\({{(2^3*2^2)}^{32}}^{32}\)=\({{2^3}^{32}}^{32}*{{2^2}^{32}}^{32}\)..

now we have two terms
1)\({{2^3}^{32}}^{32}\)=\({{8}^{32}}^{32}={{7+1}^{32}}^{32}\)
so here all terms in the expansion will be div by 7 except the one with only 1s, that is \(nCn7^0*{1^{32}}^{32}\)
So remainder will be 1 for this..


2)\({{2^2}^{32}}^{32}\)..
similarly make the power inside as 2^3 instead of 2^2 and work ahead..
Or
4^1=4 it will leave the remainder of 4
4^2=16, this will leave 2
4^3=64, this will leave 1

so get above in this form
\({{2^2}^{32}}^{32}\).= \({{4}^{30}}^{32}\)*\({{4}^{2}}^{32}\).

again \({{4}^{30}}^{32}\) will leave remainder 1, and \({{4}^{2}}^{32}\) will leave 2^32 as remainder

\(2^{32}= 2^{30}*2^2\)..
\(2^{30} = 8^{10}\), so here too remainder is 1..
2^2 will leave 4 as remainder

ans 4

You may find this lengthy, since I have explained all terms for your understanding..
but If you get hang of it, it will be easier and faster..
Ofcourse there are always shortcuts as per each Q but we should know the standard method and WHY/ of each Q.
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