Odds of meeting your spouse at MBA

It seems we're lacking a west coast perspective. As a female, I visited UCLA, Stanford and Cal and I have to say I was pretty underwhelmed by the women, although ucla had a few standouts. Same for the guys, but there are definitely some attractive international (south american) students.

Full disclosure - i did however go to USC, which probably has skewed my expectations. Also, as a former female undergrad, I have to say that while I was in school, I found the Marshall MBA's incredibly creepy, as they would get really drunk at tailgates and collectively hit on undergrad girls walking through campus.

Among the top 10 programs, there seems to be a consensus that Kellogg has the hottest girls. Also, I was surprised at the number of hotties I saw when I visited Wharton. I was totally not expecting that. But they do have the highest percentage of women among the top schools.

hahaha

i am currently accepting applications

food is a close second for sure.

Has to be UCLA, USC (if you like busty blondes), NYU, CBS (if you like Jewish brunettes). My recommendations are based more off the school's location than the class itself.

If you're willing to look beyond the obvious, you may be sucessful. I TOTALLY unexpectedly met my spouse in my last graduate program. He was a professor.

Where's the gay and lesbian perspective?!?!?!?!?

my parents want me to find gf too and living where i am this place is really not a place to meet singles at all... It is a nice thought meeting singles in B school but what about post mba - wont it be really tough to stick together etc? one step at a time i guess.

This thread just ate into an hour of essaying.. and gosh, much needed this break. I'll post my reviews post getting in to a school for now, I'll just say Fuqua tops my list as a fella for options though Haas and UCLA are close seconds.

This thread is hilarious.. kept me sane for at least an hour or so while waiting for an admit call

to keep this thread going - a previous comment mentioned the 'friend zone' and it reminded me of the classic website/theory, laddertheory.com, which I read as an undergrad.. although I dont wholly agree with the theory, there is some truth to it.. a friend I know suffers greatly from being stuck in the 'friend' ladder and I am running out of things to say to him (besides man up).. suggestions?

Yes, yes, yes...I knew you are a guy! but that girl I met during campus visit convinced me to believe you are a girl. It's not necessary that guys like dogs only.

BTW...one doesn't think too much to fall in love. They simply fall in love and things fall in place. If you calculate to find someone during mba, post-mba, at job, after job, retirement, post-retirement then chances are you'll remain gf-less.

lolll

did anyone have any luck at any of the admit events?? mine was ~50% married lol.

From the Ross School of Business:

https://www.themsj.com/home/index.cfm?ev ... 99b706de14

Ami Horne's take on dating and recruiting

I overheard the following conversations at the business school last week: "I'm not sure it's going to work out. I just felt that it wasn't the right fit." "We're going out to dinner at the Chop House tonight!" "I don't know what happened. He never called afterwards."

Interviews or dates, what are they talking about? With internship recruiting season in full swing, it's a little tough to tell. In fact, the whole process feels very much like a date. Well, except for the sex part. Hopefully, you're not sleeping with recruiters because I think OCD would frown on that. By the way, has anyone started fantasizing about a recruiter in the middle of the interview or is that just me? Um, anyway, here's the Ami Horne take on dating and recruiting.


Networking - A match made in heaven?

Prior to the interviews, it's all about networking and "finding your fit" with a company. You have to put yourself out there and test the waters, very similar to the beginning of the dating process. I really thought the lines started to blur when I attended a marketing event called "speed recruiting." And sometimes, the MBA2s like to do some matchmaking. "I really have a feeling about you and Booz Allen!"

Wine me, dine me…

First the companies try to win you over. They usually break the cardinal rule of first dates and take you out to some of Ann Arbor's finest restaurants. Vineology, the Earl, the Chop House, nothing's too good for our potential interns! Just like a date who's trying too hard to impress, are they setting the expectations too high?

Marketing yourself

Is there really a difference between the conversation in an interview and a first date? Sure, we may not use the exact words, "tell me about a time…" but we tend to spin our answers in a similar matter. Do I even need to give you an example?

Interview question: "Why did you leave your last job?"
The interview answer: "I really enjoyed the company but I had reached my maximum potential in my field and decided to pursue an MBA to transition to a more strategic general management career."

The real answer: "I hated my job and I was ready to stab myself in the eye with a fork if I didn't get into Michigan. My boss was a jerk. I had a relationship with a co-worker that ended badly. Take your pick."

Date question: "When was your last relationship?"
The date answer: "I had a boyfriend for a while but when I started business school, we just wanted different things and grew apart."

The real answer: "He conveniently ran into his ex the week after I left and next thing I knew, I was history. But he was bad in bed anyway."

"It's not you, it's me"

Rejection is never easy. They tell you that they'll call you between 5pm to 7pm so you wait anxiously by the phone for that 2nd round call. But that magical call never comes. "Maybe they're running late," you tell yourself. At 8pm, you finally give up. "But I thought they liked me!" you say in disappointment as your MBA2 mentor comforts you. Sometimes the recruiters can't even break the news themselves and get some lackey from HR to send the impersonal rejection email. Other companies let you down easy. "There were just so many good candidates… and we only have a limited number of internship spots." "Remember, recruiting is a two-year process".

A love connection

An offer, finally! Everything is right in the world again. It's funny how much your confidence improves once you're getting some… Some offers, that is! You stand up a little straighter, you act more self-assured in the interviews that follow, and suddenly, everyone wants you! It's really funny how both recruiters and potential dates are attracted to confidence. Now, it's your turn to give the "it's not you, it's me" speech.
Good luck to everyone in both recruiting and dating! It all turns out in the end, right? That's another one of my favorite lines.

https://www.themsj.com/home/index.cfm?ev ... b18d1a0c82

MBA Prom -- Classy and cool or a return to high school?

I recently interacted with some non-MBAs and tried to explain the dating world, characteristic of Ross: "We're a close-knit group, so we don't want to reveal our relationships too soon… there's a lot of secret dating at first." Then I found myself gossiping about the secret dating to another MBA: "Yeah, did you see X and Y grinding on the dance floor after wine club? And I heard W and Z were getting it on." The non-MBA looked at me and shook his head, "Wow, sounds like high school again."

I was surprised at myself. What was it about the MBA program that made me act like I was in high school again? I know that b-school relationships are complex, influenced by the taboos we've carried from the working world and Ross's own rumor mill. But haven't we gotten past the high school insecurities of worrying what people think? Evidently not! I have two words for you - MBA prom. What could be more classic high school?

I remember my own high school prom experience. The bad date, the bad dancing, the limo, the corsage, the decorations… How cliché! Was the MBA prom going to be any different? Have we really regressed back to high school, or have we made progress since then? I reflected on the two proms and decided to engage in a thorough comparative analysis.

Regressing: Pre-prom primping
For the ladies, preparing for the prom is an all-day event. We have to buy a new dress, get our hair and makeup done, and get manicures and pedicures. We also have to shave our legs above the knee if we think we're going to get lucky. Guys jump in the shower, put on a tux, and are ready in 10 minutes. Yes, life's not fair, but this never changes.

Progressing: Flying solo
In high school, everyone had a date for prom. You found a date even if you had to go with your cousin (or possibly you chose this if you're from the Appalachian region). At MBA prom, it was socially acceptable to go stag. Not everyone understood this, however. When I told my mother that I did not have a date, she was ready to be sympathetic: "Oh, honey, I'm so sorry." No, Mom, I am not pathetic - just in business school.

Regressing: Hooking up (or lack thereof)
I had high expectations for the night of the MBA prom, but I was very disappointed in the lack of new hookups at the event. Even if I didn't get lucky, I was hoping for some juicy gossip! Well, maybe Spytek caught some news that I did not. The main problem was that if I saw a new cute guy, it turned out to be someone's date. (By the way, I apologize to the blonde woman in the green dress - my only excuse is that your date was "acting" very single.) This somehow reminded me of my high school prom where the only action I got was dancing with my date, arms-length apart.

Progressing: Alcohol
Wow, I wish we had a bar at my high school prom! It would have made my date cuter and that night a whole lot more interesting. Of course, many people probably consumed as much alcohol at MBA prom as they did in high school. Most impressive this weekend was those who pre-drank beforehand and ended up with chocolate fountain all over their tuxes.
MBA Prom turned out to be a fantastic event - I loved the new venue! It was a great night and it was fun to get dressed up again. Maybe it is okay to act like we're in high school again - as long as it's only for one night.

Ami Horne is not a sex expert, just a pornography connoisseur. She wants to hear from you. Email her your stories at amihorne@gmail.com.

To quote Tucker Max: "The best part of Duke is that UNC is 15 minutes away and it's 60% females"

This NY Times article below confirms UNC's men shortage. He didn't go to Duke just because they gave him a full ride....

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/fashion/07campus.html

The New Math on Campus

NOTHER ladies’ night, not by choice.

After midnight on a rainy night last week in Chapel Hill, N.C., a large group of sorority women at the University of North Carolina squeezed into the corner booth of a gritty basement bar. Bathed in a neon glow, they splashed beer from pitchers, traded jokes and belted out lyrics to a Taylor Swift heartache anthem thundering overhead. As a night out, it had everything — except guys.

“This is so typical, like all nights, 10 out of 10,” said Kate Andrew, a senior from Albemarle, N.C. The experience has grown tiresome: they slip on tight-fitting tops, hair sculpted, makeup just so, all for the benefit of one another, Ms. Andrew said, “because there are no guys.”

Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.”

“A lot of my friends will meet someone and go home for the night and just hope for the best the next morning,” Ms. Lynch said. “They’ll text them and say: ‘I had a great time. Want to hang out next week?’ And they don’t respond.”

Even worse, “Girls feel pressured to do more than they’re comfortable with, to lock it down,” Ms. Lynch said.

As for a man's cheating, "that's a thing that girls let slide, because you have to," said Emily Kennard, a junior at North Carolina. "If you don't let it slide, you don't have a boyfriend." (Ms. Kennard, however, said that she does not personally tolerate cheating).

“If a guy is not getting what he wants, he can quickly and abruptly go to the next one, because there are so many of us,” said Katie Deray, a senior at the University of Georgia, who said that it is common to see six provocatively clad women hovering around one or two guys at a party or a bar.

“A lot of guys know that they can go out and put minimal effort into their appearance and not treat girls to drinks or flatter them, and girls will still flirt with them,” said Felicite Fallon, a senior at Florida State University, which is 56 percent female.

Several male students acknowledged that the math skewed pleasantly in their favor. “You don’t have to work that hard,” said Matt Garofalo, a senior at North Carolina. “You meet a girl at a late-night restaurant, she’s texting you the next day.”

But it’s not as if the imbalance leads to ceaseless bed-hopping, said Austin Ivey, who graduated from North Carolina last year but was hanging out in a bar near campus last week. “Guys tend to overshoot themselves and find a really beautiful girlfriend they couldn’t date otherwise, but can, thanks to the ratio,” he said.

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And when Tucker was too lazy to drive 15 minutes....Duke isn't that bad either

https://www.duke.edu/web/hookup/

Mission: Our goal in creating this zine is to raise awareness on issues surrounding Duke’s hookup culture, encourage gender equality and eliminate social myths. We hope that this will foster action-oriented discussion and inspire readers like you to not only think, but act to create desired change through collaboration.

This thread was pretty funny to read through.

I actually justified online dating to my friends by telling them it was the best practice I got for b-school and job interviews. And I've found the "I'm moving in a few months for school" line to do wonders for easily turning guys down without feeling like a jerk or lying about having a bf lol

What do you say if you actually like them? You have 4 months to convince me how awesome you are