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Re: Veritas Prep Books vs Manhattan GMAT Books [#permalink]
Thanks again BB for the great info, really grateful. At the moment I can't afford to purchase all 9 Veritas quant guides but I would be happy to get a good number of the books as long as they add to the knowledge I've gained from the MGMAT guides.

The problem is I can't find any detailed info on the contents of each book. But I think it is safe to assume that the three Veritas books ("Data Sufficiency", "Combinatorics & Probability" and "Statistics & Problem Solving" books) would offer a new approach for me as the Manhattan guides don't go into too much detail. So I will get these. I am tempted to get the Veritas "Advanced Word Problems & Quantitative Review" but fear that its content may be very similar to MGMAT's Word Translations.

Out of the remaining 4 Veritas books, do you think I am right in assuming that:

>Veritas "Math Essentials" book is adequately covered by MGMAT's "Foundations", "Number Properties" and "Fractions, Decimals & Percents" books
>Veritas "Arithmetic" book covered by MGMAT's "Foundations", "Number Properties" and "Fractions, Decimals & Percents"
>Veritas "Algebra" book covered by MGMAT's "Equations, Inequalities, VICs" book
>Veritas "Geometry" book covered by MGMAT's "Geometry" book.

By 'adequately covered' I mean the concepts/theory are basically the same in both books, clearly the standard of questions in each book will be different.
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is the Vertias word problems book good?
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Re: Veritas Prep Books vs Manhattan GMAT Books [#permalink]
Regarding the MGMAT CAT tests. If you buy one book, you already get six tests. So if I would buy two books separately I would receive two times six tests? Or eight times if I order the the entire box set? Or do you have to register and can do this only once?

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TheMB: You get six tests irrespective of how many books you buy. They are the same tests, but if you buy the books separately, you might be able to let someone else utilize your tests if you keep the code intact. If you get the set of their books, you still get only 6 tests. I don't think it's 6 unique tests per book.
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Re: Veritas Prep Books vs Manhattan GMAT Books [#permalink]
I had both as well, used each set heavily, in my opinion MGMAT wins, I did reach for Veritas to help with personal knowledge gaps that Manhattan happened to be light on (SC, Combinatorics etc)

Veritas goes VERY in depth about DS. Which is great considering MGMAT does not.

Both of these sets together can be a very power, yet expensive, combo
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I think Veritas Probability and Combination book is unique! MGMAT don't have any such book. But then only few questions come from P&C!! Also, Veritas has separate guide for AWA, overall I like the Veritas guides.
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Re: Veritas Prep Books vs Manhattan GMAT Books [#permalink]
thanks for the post. I an a beginner and i intend taking the test once and scoring high, which of these bks should i buy, veritas or manhattan that would be most helpful?

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Well, the first post was kind of addressing that... you won't be making a mistake with either.
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- Guides are intermingled (not my favorite way of studying). It goes like this: Arguments, Arithmetic, CR, Algebra, SC.... I prefer to focus on Math or Verbal and drive it home (but this is me)

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- Coverage of DS throughout vs a dedicated DS book (probably not a big deal/difference but I felt having DS interspersed was better)


bb, I don't think you wanted to make this on purpose but after reading the first post one can get the impression that the Veritas Prep books don't use DS questions outside the specific book. Actually, on all other books (Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Combinatorics & Probability, Advanced Word Problems and Quant Review) PS and DS questions are interspersed, but you will get ONLY DS questions in the DS book, and only PS questions in the Statistics and PS book (excluding the Statistics problem set that contain some DS questions). I think it's really good that you get a specific book to address DS tackling techniques. But you get to practice DS before while studying every section.

I wouldn't say having the math and verbal books intermingled is a disadvantage . They are numbered this way because the classes follow that order. But if you use the books for self studying, of course you can study them in the order that you prefer.
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Thank you Cano!

I checked the books and there are actually DS questions mindled in other books (just a handful but they are there)
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To build on the foundation and basics, what would you suggest bb? I think the MGMAT practice tests are great, but i'm not really sold on their books!!!
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To build on the foundation and basics, what would you suggest bb? I think the MGMAT practice tests are great, but i'm not really sold on their books!!!


Sure, I have prepped with Kaplan books and I think those were great for my needs (not as detailed as MGMAT but I probably did not need all those details). Did you find something that worked well for you?
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I'm planning on taking the exam in a month, and am currently enrolled in Veritas Prep with the books. I've also been working through the OG guide. I was wondering if it's worth it to get the MGMAT guides in addition to the prep I'm already doing, or if the work will be confusing/redundant. Right now my weakest areas are sentence correction and data sufficiency.

Let me know if I can provide any more info. Thanks :)
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StudyOn, I am trying to decide which Online Prep course to take either Veritas or Manhattan? Reviewing the two: Veritas offers more full length tests than Manhattan with more "unlimited" telephonic support. Otherwise, they apply to be very similar. Do you find this to be true? Would you recommend Veritas to one of your friends?
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I'll chime in with my experiences and thoughts as well. I initially purchased the set of eight mgmat books and worked through most of them on my own. I was also planning on registering for their class but in the end decided to enroll with veritas Live online in order to gain new strategies, practice problems, and tests. I'm a little more than half way through the class so far.

I actually disagree with bb a bit. I feel that the mgmat books are more thorough in their explanations and in laying out strategies and concepts, whereas the veritas guides feel more like workbooks to me: basic explanations followed by a ton of practice problems.

Overall I think I like the manhattan guides better, the math guides especially the numbers properties guide were very helpful to me, when I first started studying my math was pitiful. Also the mgmat practice tests are much better than the veritas ones. Yes veritas gives more but only 5 are written by them, and none of them are as good as the manhattan ones.

What I do like better about the veritas books is the dedicated ds book and the combinatorics book. A caveat: the practice problems are divided into assorted problems which are easy to mid level and constitute 90% of the practice questions, and challenge problems which make up about the last 10%. in the ds book all of the assorted problems are very easy even for me and math is my weak point.

But the best thing about the veritas books is the number of additional practice problems. whereas manhattan only has drills after every chap, and their practice problems are just the og problems.

Last thing I'll mention, I don't recommend the veritas live online class. I don't know how the in person classes are but in my class we work directly from the books. We basically go through the opening sections of the books page by page, the teacher may as well be reading it to us. There is very little student involvement because there are over 40 people in the class. Also I was under the impression that there would be a moderator present to field text questions, but there isn't so the teacher has to stop and verbally answer every question, it's very frustrating. IMO it is more efficient to just buy the books and work through them on your own, it's faster and wastes much less time. I can't comment on the mgmat classes but I'm quite unsatisfied with veritas' classes. I do recommend the books however for anyone looking for 100s of extra practice problems.
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Thanks for the great suggestions and comments. It was interesting to learn from two different people that they take most of the class time reviewing homework and that prep books are mostly easy to moderately difficult practice problems. Just FYI I decided to go with Manhattan. Thanks again

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Thanks for the great suggestions and comments. It was interesting to learn from two different people that they take most of the class time reviewing homework and that prep books are mostly easy to moderately difficult practice problems. Just FYI I decided to go with Manhattan. Thanks again

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Yes good point I forgot to mention that the first hour usually of every class is dedicated to answering homework problems. To me this feels like a waste of time because at most I would have a question about 1 problem per book. I found the forums here to be a much better resource for answering those questions because you get various points of view and various methods to solve the problems. Besides that veritas has email and phone support so I really don't know why they waste so much class time. Let us know how manhattan treats you. Good luck.
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