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The OA is B.

Here is the official explanation:

To establish that much of the varation is due to unnecessary surgical procedures, it is necessary to eliminate that possibility that the geographical varation reflects varation in the incidence of disease treated with these procedures. Choice B, if established, would eliminate this possibility and is thus the best answer.

Review boards (choice A) would provide some control against unnecessary procedures, so choice A would, if anything, tell again the suggested conclusion. Neither choice C nor choice E bears on the conclusion, since neither the conclusion nor the cited geographical variation involves procedures are of the kind choice D describes, the diffculty of determining an individual operation's necessity would merely increase the difficulty of verifying the suggested conclusion.
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For me, B is clear and typical for GMAT:

[Cause: surgical procedures] --?-> [result: variation]
We need: there is no other cause (but surgical procedures) that results in [variation]

At the same time, C is also a typical trap: it says something about other surgical procedures (out of scope), but we consider here the variation in the numbers of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies.
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No, this is not an assumption question.

The question asks us to identify the option which will best allow us to determine whether much of the variation in surgical procedures across geographies is due to unnecessary surgical procedures.

A: Incorrect. Even if a local board reviews for the necessity of surgical procedures, we have nothing here to tell us whether they end up recommending unnecessary surgical procedures
B: CORRECT. If the variation is unrelated to factors related to the incidence of diseases, then it must be a result of incorrect recommendations being made
C: Incorrect. Even if a large number of surgical procedures are incorrectly recommended, we do not have enough information to conclude that the variation is a result of these
D: Incorrect. If it is difficult to determine whether the procedures were necessary, it will be more, and not less difficult to determine the need for them
E: Incorrect. Similar to C.

(B) is therefore correct.
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Like Word problems in algebra, it is very important to assimilate the questions in CR and then simplify them in common terms

THE QUESTION IS
There is a great deal of geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures - up to tenfold variation per hundred thousand between different areas in the numbers of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies.

To support a conclusion that much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedure, it would be most important to establish which of the following ?

A)A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary.
B)The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered.
C)There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily.
D)For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded.
E)With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general.

The question is making us to pick the assumption, which is noting but an understated premise. SO we have to pick an answer that is the assumption made to derive the conclusion. This argument can be simplified and broken into premises and conclusion as follows :-

Premise 1 ) There is a huge variation in number and type of surgeries in a country. Location A has 300 eye surgeries, Location B has 200 heart surgeries and Location C has 400 kidney surgeries.
Premise 2) ----- NOT GIVEN------
NO OTHER PREMISE IS GIVEN. WE ARE DIRECTLY GIVEN A CONCLUSION AND ASKED TO PICKED THE MISSING PREMISE 2

CONSLUSION ) These surgeries were unnecessary.

If you look at Premise 1 only, you might conclude that many people in location A are suffering from eye disease. Population of Location B suffers from a heart disease, and Location C has some disease that is affecting the kidneys of many people. That is the reason there is no much variation in each location and its disease type. These diseases must be dangerous if not treated urgently.

But then comes the conclusion that say :- THE SURGERIES WERE UNNECESSARY.
Now, If we add a premise such as :- This variation is not caused due to the difference in number of people suffering from eye, heart and kidney disease.

How does our argument now looks like ?? ==>
Premise 1 ) There is a huge variation in number and type of surgeries in a different parts of the country.
Premise 2) This variation in surgeries is NOT because different people suffer from different disease in different location.
Conclusion) If these variations are not because people were suffering==> then these surgeries were unnecessary.

Originally posted by LogicGuru1 on 12 Jun 2016, 05:57.
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MartinMag wrote:
Official Guide for GMAT Verbal Review, 2nd Edition

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Question No.: 55
Page: 138

There is a great deal of geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures—up to tenfold variation per hundred thousand between different areas in the numbers of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies.

To support a conclusion that much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedure, it would be most important to establish which of the following?

(A) A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary.

(B) The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered.

(C) There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily.

(D) For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded.

(E) With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general.

The below explanation is from David (Veritas Prep) -

This is a special type of the strengthen question where the conclusion is in the question stem. Please be on the lookout for this as it occurs fairly regularly.

The conclusion is "much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedures" This indicates a cause and effect relationship. We are, in effect, saying that the reason that there is a geographical variation in the listed procedures is because in the areas where more procedures are performed many of those procedures are not necessary.

Now there could be other reasons for a variation in the number of surgeries. For example, the new natural gas wells that are being drilled in people's back yards have been proven to contaminate the water supply and so it would be very reasonable to see additional cases of cancer and therefore additional procedures near these poisonous wells. So that would be another cause not unnecessary procedures, but variations in the toxicity of various places around the U.S. (or the world depending on how you read the question).

In order to strengthen a question that involves cause and effect, you will want to consider the possibility of blocking an alternate cause. In this case we are saying the cause is the "unnecessary procedures" so we want to block the things that would make these procedures necessary - like variations in the age of the population, the health of the people, the quality of the water, even the ability of the people to pay for the procedures.

Answer Choice B does this. It says, "The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered." So this blocks the idea that the cause of varying rates of procedures would be any of the factors (age, health, toxins) etc. mentioned above. So we strengthen one cause by blocking another.

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The stimulus says there is a great deal of geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures. The many is important here. The stimulus is not saying that there is variation in the frequency of every possible procedure—just in "many". Then the stimulus tells us which procedures form the "many" (hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies). If you're not sure about this, read the stimulus as "there is a lot of variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures—up to tenfold variation in A, B, and C procedures". The part after the dash limits the scope of the question. This is different from trying to change the "degree" with something like "there is a lot of variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures—and up to tenfold variation in A, B, and C procedures".

The conclusion is that this variation can be explained by unnecessary surgical procedures. We need to strengthen this, so the correct option will help us believe that unnecessary hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are being performed in some areas (more frequently than in others).

MartinMag wrote:
(A) A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary.
This option says that there is (already) a local board of review at every single hospital. If such a board reviews surgical procedures to check whether they were necessary or not, we are LESS likely to believe that the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedures.

Keep in mind that this option is not presenting us a recommendation. It tells us that such boards are already in place. Also, don't add any extra information (like "the boards are not functioning well").

MartinMag wrote:
(B) The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered.
This is good. The conclusion is that the variation is due to X. This option strengthens that conclusion by saying that the variation is unrelated to factors other than X (leaving only X to explain the variation).

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(C) There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily.
This option (a) discusses procedures other than the ones the question is concerned with and (b) gives us no information about the link to geographical variation. If it had said that the same geographical variation is observed in other categories, we would have had some reason to think that the variation observed in the frequency of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies is due to unnecessary surgical procedures. But this option doesn't do that. It just says that there are other procedures that are often performed unnecessarily.

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(D) For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded.
If this is true, all geographical regions should find the process equally difficult. There's nothing here to suggest that there is any geographical variation in the frequency of unnecessary surgical procedures. Also, this option doesn't really specify whether "certain" includes hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies.

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(E) With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general.
Whether the three are representative or not is irrelevant. We first need to establish that the variation in the frequency of the three procedures is in fact due to unnecessary surgical procedures.
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I faltered in this one - may be because of the overall structure of passage - and fell for trap answer C. Here's my post attempt analysis.

There is a great deal of geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures—up to tenfold variation per hundred thousand between different areas in the numbers of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies. - Here's a fact laid down in the passage by the author that there is geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures(SP). 'up to' suggests the maximum variation possible between different areas for H, P and T. It can be considered as example given in support of the fact that there is vast amount of variation.

To support a conclusion that much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedure, it would be most important to establish which of the following? - 'To support' suggests that we need to strengthen the argument/conclusion. Conclusion is that much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedure(USP). So, in order to do so, what must be done?

Till this point, we understood that we need to EITHER disapprove/weaken any fact that says that the variation is because of surgical procedures OR support one which suggests that variation is due to some other unsought USP. However, latter is far better for our case.

(A) A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary. - This goes in either of the directions as we are more interested in the result the review would get us. Was it necessary or was it not?

(B) The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered. - The phrasing is little confusing. All it says that unrelated factors to SPs caused the variation as they(unrelated factors) let to surgeries. Some local factors related to geography led to some disease and thus surgeries.

(C) There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily. - The word 'several' if replaced by 'some' then probably it becomes clear that this is not the right answer. Also, SPs other than H, P and T, if performed unnecessarily, would suggests that variation was indeed because of SPs and not USPs. H, P and T variation is given as an example - an extreme one - and suggests that there are other SPs which might be necessary. What if we have another extreme case where the variation is minimal geographically and most of the cases have such minimal variation? OR What if H, P and T is an exception among the cases? The passage actually doesn't touches upon this aspect. The point is this is an open choice like A, which leads us to nowhere.

(D) For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded. - Again, generically speaking, we are not concerned of certain SPs. Are those 'certain SPs' number most OR least OR exception. Basically this is irrelevant.

(E) With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general. - The word 'how' jumps in and we are not concerned how H, P and T are performed unnecessarily. Again Irrelevant.

I don't know if this analysis is good or bad but this is how i understood it.

Answer B.
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Hi AndrewN - i could not understand what (E) is saying - is it saying ?

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Unnecessary hysterectomies | Unnecessary prostatectomies | Unnecessary tonsillectomies

are taking place at the same rate as

Unnecessary other surgical procedures (For ex - Appendectomies, Carotid endarterectomies...) ?
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Hi AndrewN - i could not understand what (E) is saying - is it saying ?

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Unnecessary hysterectomies | Unnecessary prostatectomies | Unnecessary tonsillectomies

are taking place at the same rate as

Unnecessary other surgical procedures (For ex - Appendectomies, Carotid endarterectomies...) ?

Yes, jabhatta2, answer choice (E) is saying that the three types of procedure in question are not performed any more frequently than are other procedures when any of these procedures are unnecessary.

Well done transcribing a pretty difficult answer choice.

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ThatDudeKnows avigutman I am not clear on what choice D and E mean and why they are incorrect and how they relate to the passage
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ThatDudeKnows avigutman I am not clear on what choice D and E mean and why they are incorrect and how they relate to the passage


Passage describes a phenomenon that requires some explanation: surgeries are performed at different rates in different geographies.
For example, imagine that you find out that only 5 hysterectomies per 100,000 people are performed in Japan, whereas 50 hysterectomies per 100,000 are performed in India.
One possible explanation for this phenomenon is that the excess hysterectomies in India (45 more than Japan, per 100,000) are unnecessary. Our task is to find an answer choice that supports this particular explanation.
(D) suggests that we might not be able to tell whether the procedure was necessary, even after the fact.
(E) closes a gap between the premise and the conclusion: the premise was specifically about hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies, whereas the conclusion was about surgical procedures in general.
Please let me know whether that helps, Elite097.
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There is a great deal of geographical variation in the frequency of many surgical procedures—up to tenfold variation per hundred thousand between different areas in the numbers of hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies.

To support a conclusion that much of the variation is due to unnecessary surgical procedure, it would be most important to establish which of the following?


(A) A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary.

(B) The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered.

(C) There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily.

(D) For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded.

(E) With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general.



To support a conclusion that much of the variation in the frequency of surgical procedures is due to unnecessary surgeries, it would be most important to establish option B: The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered.

If there are other factors (such as differences in the incidence of diseases or patient preferences) that explain the variation in surgical procedures, then it would be difficult to conclude that the variation is due to unnecessary surgeries. Establishing that the variation is not explained by these other factors would support the argument that the variation is due to differences in physician behavior or practice patterns, which could include performing unnecessary surgeries.

Options A, C, D, and E are not directly relevant to the argument that much of the variation in surgical procedures is due to unnecessary surgeries. Option A addresses the process for reviewing surgeries after they have been performed, but it does not speak to the underlying causes of the variation in the first place. Options C and E are concerned with other categories of surgical procedures, but they do not speak to the causes of the variation in the frequency of the specific procedures mentioned in the prompt. Option D is concerned with the difficulty of evaluating the necessity of certain surgeries after they have been performed, but it does not speak to the underlying causes of the variation in the frequency of surgeries.
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Conclusion: Unneccesary surgeries are the cause for the variation cited in the passage.
Type: Strengthen/Support

(A) A local board of review to each hospital examines the records of every operation to determine whether the surgical procedure was necessary - This tells us that a local board does review whether each surgery recommended is necessary or not. However, this does not tell us regarding their conclusion, i.e., did the board come to the conclusion that the surgeries were necessary and in what percentage of cases? This option has no impact. Drop 

(B) The variation is unrelated to factors (other than the surgical procedures themselves) that influence the incidence of diseases for which surgery might be considered. Okay. Sounds complex, but let's break it down. Variation is not related to the incidence of the diseases for which surgery is required, i.e., Incidence/frequency of diseases is not the cause for surgery. This option eliminates an alternate cause for variation cited, hence it's a strengthener. Keep

(C) There are several categories of surgical procedure (other than hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies) that are often performed unnecessarily. Sounds like a conclusion in and of itself and doesn't provide the link for cause-effect chain. Drop

(D) For certain surgical procedures, it is difficult to determine after the operation whether the procedures were necessary or whether alternative treatment would have succeeded. - Whether it can be determined whether the procedures were necessary or not only tells us about the testing feasiblity, but not the cause-effect link between unnecessary surgeries and the geographic variation. Drop

(E) With respect to how often they are performed unnecessarily, hysterectomies, prostatectomies, and tonsillectomies are representative of surgical procedures in general. Does this mean that most if not all surgeries are performed unecessarily? That maybe so, but why? Well this option doesn't answer that. Drop
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