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Parents: We have observed that the college does not follow a fair policy while allocating campus housing to its students. A quick look at Block B indicates that it majorly houses non-American students while most American students are allocated Block A. Is it because the college wants to prevent American and non-American students from intermingling?

College Representative: The accusation is not true. While allocating housing, we do not look at any nationality information. Only the students’ first names and grades are used while allocating housing. The allocation should hence be random.

Which of the following assumptions forms an inherent weakness in the college representative’s response to parents’ charges?

A. There is no discrimination against non-American students.

B. The policy followed by the college is a common policy and is followed by other colleges too.

C. It is not possible to recognize nationality of a candidate by looking at his or her first name.

D. There are no exceptions, whatsoever, in the explained procedure for campus housing allocation.

E. Grades of non-American students are not any different from those of American students.

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C

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Explanation
A. This is the not the assumption of the college representative, rather it is the point that the representative is trying to make. But whatever he says could still be true while there is discrimination in the allocation.

B. Whether the policy is also followed by other colleges or not is out of scope here.

C. Correct. If it was possible to judge the nationality of the student by looking at the first name and last name, then the allocation will not remain random.

D. Although this seems to be a possible choice, this is not the best answer. Because, for replying to parents, college representative need not assume this. The reply will remain valid even if housing was loosely based on the procedure.

E. The grades alone are not the criteria; hence, this is not the right answer.

C is the best answer choice.

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23 Jul 2017, 02:15
E .if we negate this ..grades of non American students are different from American students.if that is true ..the allocation is not random and hence conclusion breaks down.

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23 Jul 2017, 04:38
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Parents: We have observed that the college does not follow a fair policy while allocating campus housing to its students. A quick look at Block B indicates that it majorly houses non-American students while most American students are allocated Block A. Is it because the college wants to prevent American and non-American students from intermingling?

College Representative: The accusation is not true. While allocating housing, we do not look at any nationality information. Only the students’ first names and grades are used while allocating housing. The allocation should hence be random.

Which of the following assumptions forms an inherent weakness in the college representative’s response to parents’ charges?

A. There is no discrimination against non-American students.

B. The policy followed by the college is a common policy and is followed by other colleges too.

C. It is not possible to recognize nationality of a candidate by looking at his or her first name.

D. There are no exceptions, whatsoever, in the explained procedure for campus housing allocation.

E. Grades of non-American students are not any different from those of American students.

we need to find a assumption that highlights the weakness in the college representative response ..
a- strengthener
b-out of scope --what other college do , we are not bother...
c-again a supporter to college representative response
d-same as c
e --yes , if we assume this , it will weaken the college representative response..

will go with E ..
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23 Jul 2017, 07:52
It should be E as it states that the grades of americans and that of non americans are not different.If we negate this,then the whole assumption upon which the college's representative's answer is based, turns to be baseless.As then both of them should have stayed in the same building,hence E.

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23 Jul 2017, 11:17
I will go with E

A. There is no discrimination against non-American students.

B. The policy followed by the college is a common policy and is followed by other colleges too.

C. It is not possible to recognize nationality of a candidate by looking at his or her first name.

D. There are no exceptions, whatsoever, in the explained procedure for campus housing allocation.

E. Grades of non-American students are not any different from those of American students.
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26 Jul 2017, 11:58
Can anybody confirm if this question is correct. I feel both C and E are correct !
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Can anybody confirm if this question is correct. I feel both C and E are correct !

I struggled with both as well, but went with (C) in the end.

College Representative: The accusation is not true. While allocating housing, we do not look at any nationality information. Only the students’ first names and grades are used while allocating housing. The allocation should hence be random

-- Looking at these two points, I think I can explain the question because the OE contradicted itself a little bit. The Rep. says they do not look at any info. about nationality. If one could tell nationality by name, hence (C), then the statement would be inaccurate because it wouldn't be random.

If grades were different between the two groups, it would HAVE to be known by the college that there was a discrepancy. Because this is not stated, I believe the only logical conclusion is option (C).

I hope this helps anyone with questions!

This isn't the best question, in my opinion. There easily could be two answers, and the OE only confirms this notion.
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12 Aug 2017, 21:52
I chose C, but I couldn't effectively decline E.
The only reason I chose E is that it seems more logical to identify nationality by first names than by grades.
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Parents : Students are allocated housing based on their nationality.
CR : We only look at First Names and Grades to allocate housing and we in no way look at their nationality.

Question is to find an answer which will weaken the CR's claim that they don't consider nationality.

C. It is actually possible to state one's nationality looking at the first name, like John's are most likely American, Raj etc are Indian so on.. But the CR assumes this is NOT possible which is why Option C is the correct answer.

E . Says Grades are same but the parents are talking about nationalities.
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04 Oct 2017, 07:21
Can someone reply why E is wrong?
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18 Nov 2017, 10:22
Even I had marked E while doing the mock. But upon carefully observation of the words in the question asked

I think the question is asking

as per the representatives statement, which inherent assumption makes his statement weak.

The representative tries to relate that as the selection process is through the identification of first names and grades, it is difficult to correlate these two variables with the nationality of the student.

Option C tries to correlate the two statements and option E only talks to about one Statement.
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25 Nov 2017, 21:38
The question is from Expertsglobal's tests.
They said: E is incorrect because 'the grades alone are not criteria.'

When I use negation tactics, both C and E can ruin the conclusion --> It means both are assumptions of the argument

But when analyzing E answer so closely I saw:

Ok, if grades of non-American students are different from those of American students, can the allocation maker recognize who is non-Amerian and who is American only by looking at the grades?
Maybe he/she will allocate the students with lower grades to one block, and those with higher grades to another one. It can be discrimination in grading, but not in nationality (because he/she don't know which kind of grade defines nationality of a student!!!). By that I mean the allocation maker can accidentally classify accommodations between American students and non-American students.

That's why I think C defeat E.

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28 Nov 2017, 07:28
Can someone please explain the question stem over here? I am having a hard time stitching answer choice to the question stem.
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30 Mar 2018, 16:37
This question is oddly phrased, and you'd be unlikely to see something like that on the GMAT. It seems to be asking for a flaw (an inherent weakness), but it asks for that flaw in the form of an assumption. So in the end, it's just asking for an assumption of the argument! It's simply adding a tone of judgment, since C doesn't seem like a very sound assumption. Then again, can we really tell from someone's first name whether they are American? Another reason the GMAT would not present a question like this is that it implies that some names are American and some are not. Is my name American? Because I was born and raised in the USA!
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Parents: We have observed that the college does not follow a fair policy while allocating campus housing to its students. A quick look at Block B indicates that it majorly houses non-American students while most American students are allocated Block A. Is it because the college wants to prevent American and non-American students from intermingling?

College Representative: The accusation is not true. While allocating housing, we do not look at any nationality information. Only the students’ first names and grades are used while allocating housing. The allocation should hence be random.

Which of the following assumptions forms an inherent weakness in the college representative’s response to parents’ charges?

A. There is no discrimination against non-American students. --Incorrect. This strengthens the argument

B. The policy followed by the college is a common policy and is followed by other colleges too. --Doesn't matter

C. It is not possible to recognize nationality of a candidate by looking at his or her first name. --Correct

D. There are no exceptions, whatsoever, in the explained procedure for campus housing allocation. --Exception?

E. Grades of non-American students are not any different from those of American students. --Doesn't matter
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Think about it. The college representative says that the college is allocating housing on the basis of the following, without any bias:
1. Use the first name of students.

Now, the question mentions about housing allocations for "American" and "Non American". To begin with, if we assume that there is no bias and choose a sample of "X" random students from both groups for housing allocation, it might not be possible to identify someone belonging to one group simply based on grades (inherent assumption being all students are of similar caliber). However, there is a slight possibility that by using first names, a certain demarcation can be made. If you look in your real life, we do see very different names of people who hail from Asia, Africa and or Latin America. Hence, the "first name" of students can form a basis for bias.
Again, the question stem mentions the following: "... the following assumptions forms an inherent weakness... ". This means that all the following would be assumptions (or assumption-like) and hence there has to be a fatal flaw, in one of them that needs to be recognized.

Getting to the question:

Parents: We have observed that the college does not follow a fair policy while allocating campus housing to its students. A quick look at Block B indicates that it majorly houses non-American students while most American students are allocated Block A. Is it because the college wants to prevent American and non-American students from intermingling?
College Representative: The accusation is not true. While allocating housing, we do not look at any nationality information. Only the students’ first names and grades are used while allocating housing. The allocation should hence be random.

Which of the following assumptions forms an inherent weakness in the college representative’s response to parents’ charges?

(A) There is no discrimination against non-American students.
Doesn't help the argument or find a flaw.

(B) The policy followed by the college is a common policy and is followed by other colleges too.
We are dealing with one specific college here. Out of scope.

(C) It is not possible to recognize nationality of a candidate by looking at his or her first name.
This is the flaw we thought of. It is very possible to recognize the ethnicity of a candidate from looking at names.

(D) There are no exceptions, whatsoever, in the explained procedure for campus housing allocation.
Tries to strengthen, but not much legs to stand on.

(E) Grades of non-American students are not any different from those of American students.
If true, this will never let you make a demarcation between the groups. Doesn't help the argument.

Hence, C.
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Hi,

The way to figure this out is fairly simple really.

My name is Hitesh ( can you fairly assume i'm at least not white/British etc? ) How about Shameeqa or Hassan or Ali etc. Fairly easy to assume that if the racist person was really trying to be racist in assigning housing, he/she could. Breaks down.

Grades, although important, is a fair response to the parents because of it's nature. You would not be able to distinguish an Ali from Saudi Arabia with 90% from a John Smith from Alabama with a 90% without knowing their names. It's a fair argument. It would be illogical to negate this, for the most part.

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Can anybody confirm if this question is correct. I feel both C and E are correct !
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daagh can you please tell us why E isn't the answer, infact C strengthens the argument.
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E .if we negate this ..grades of non American students are different from American students.if that is true ..the allocation is not random and hence conclusion breaks down.

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Option E states that grades are different, but which one’s which is still not clear
While in the option C which explicitly states the assumption is more clear and addresses the gap directly.
And hence is best of the lot

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