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(1) 1 pound of pears cost $0.5 more that 1 pound of apples (2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples [Reveal] Spoiler: OA Last edited by Bunuel on 27 Feb 2013, 07:13, edited 1 time in total. Edited the question and added the OA. Kudos [?]: 105 [3], given: 0 Senior Manager Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Kudos [?]: 105 [4], given: 0 Re: gmatprep DS- apples and pears [#permalink] ### Show Tags 30 Oct 2007, 20:41 4 This post received KUDOS 1 This post was BOOKMARKED trivikram wrote: r019h wrote: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears could he have bought for same amount of money? 1) 1 pound of pears cost$0.5 more that 1 pound of apples
2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples

B should be it

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cost of 1 pound of apples= $x cost of 1 pound pears=$x+0.5
5 pounds of apples for $5x and 5x/x+0.5 pounds of pears for$5x INSUFF

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1 pound of pears= $1.5x so 5x/1.5x pounds of pears for$5x= 5/1.5 approx= 3 pounds of pears
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1) 1 pound of pears cost $0.5 more that 1 pound of apples 2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples [Reveal] Spoiler: OA B Kudos [?]: 296 [0], given: 32 Director Status: Tutor - BrushMyQuant Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Posts: 622 Kudos [?]: 768 [0], given: 59 Location: India Concentration: Finance, Marketing Schools: XLRI (A) GMAT 1: 700 Q51 V31 GPA: 3 WE: Information Technology (Computer Software) Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of [#permalink] ### Show Tags 14 Nov 2012, 10:48 Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears could he have bought for same amount of money? 1) 1 pound of pears cost$0.5 more that 1 pound of apples
2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples

We need a relationship between price of pears and that of apples to solve the question.

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1p = 0.5 + 1a
But this relationship is not sufficient to answer because
price of 5 pounds of apples = 5p = 5*0.5 + 5a but we cannot tell for sure about the exact pounds of apples we can buy

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1p = 1.5*1a
This relationship is sufficient because
price of 5 pounds of apples = 5p = 5*1.5 *1a= 7.5a
so we know for sure that we can buy 7.5 pounds of apples with the same money.

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I didn't understand statement 2

Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears could he have bought for same amount of money?

(1) 1 pound of pears cost $0.5 more that 1 pound of apples. If 1 pound of pears cost$1 and 1 pound of apples cost $0.5, then the cost of 5 pounds of apples is 5*0.5=$2.5. For $2.5 we can buy 2.5/1=2.5 pounds of pears. If 1 pound of pears cost$1.5 and 1 pound of apples cost $1, then the cost of 5 pounds of apples is 5*1=$5. For $5 we can buy 5/1.5=10/3 pounds of pears. Not sufficient. (2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples. The cost of 5 pounds of apples is$5a (where a is the cost of 1 pound of apples). For $5a we can buy 5a/(1.5a)=5/1.5 pounds of pears. Sufficient. Answer: B. Hope it's clear. _________________ Kudos [?]: 129093 [4], given: 12194 Intern Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 14 Kudos [?]: 12 [0], given: 15 Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears [#permalink] ### Show Tags 10 Aug 2013, 14:17 Bunuel wrote: fozzzy wrote: I didn't understand statement 2 Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears could he have bought for same amount of money? (1) 1 pound of pears cost$0.5 more that 1 pound of apples.

If 1 pound of pears cost $1 and 1 pound of apples cost$0.5, then the cost of 5 pounds of apples is 5*0.5=$2.5. For$2.5 we can buy 2.5/1=2.5 pounds of pears.
If 1 pound of pears cost $1.5 and 1 pound of apples cost$1, then the cost of 5 pounds of apples is 5*1=$5. For$5 we can buy 5/1.5=10/3 pounds of pears.

Not sufficient.

(2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples. The cost of 5 pounds of apples is $5a (where a is the cost of 1 pound of apples). For$5a we can buy 5a/(1.5a)=5/1.5 pounds of pears. Sufficient.

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Can you please correct my approach of solving this question.

Statement 1:

5 pound of apple cost x
1 pound of apple cost x/5

1 pound of pear would have cost x/5 + 0.5$. Since x is unknown . Hence not sufficient Statement 2: 1 pound of pear cost 3/2(x/5). Here, now i thought that since x is still unknown its not sufficient. Combining both also doesnt give value for x. Hence my answer was E which is incorrect, Can you please solve this question using my approach. If its correct thanks! Kudos [?]: 12 [0], given: 15 GMAT Club Legend Joined: 09 Sep 2013 Posts: 16609 Kudos [?]: 273 [0], given: 0 Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears [#permalink] ### Show Tags 01 Nov 2014, 13:19 Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot! Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos). Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email. _________________ Kudos [?]: 273 [0], given: 0 GMAT Club Legend Joined: 09 Sep 2013 Posts: 16609 Kudos [?]: 273 [0], given: 0 Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of [#permalink] ### Show Tags 03 Jan 2015, 21:16 Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot! Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos). Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email. _________________ Kudos [?]: 273 [0], given: 0 EMPOWERgmat Instructor Status: GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat Joined: 19 Dec 2014 Posts: 9987 Kudos [?]: 3412 [2], given: 172 Location: United States (CA) GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49 GRE 1: 340 Q170 V170 Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of [#permalink] ### Show Tags 04 Jan 2015, 13:26 2 This post received KUDOS Expert's post 3 This post was BOOKMARKED Hi All, In these types of DS questions, if you're sure if a pattern exists or not, you can prove it by TESTing VALUES and being thorough. Here's how: We're told that Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. We're asked how many pounds of pears could have been purchased with the same amount of money. **Note: I'm going to assume that both the cost per pound of apples and the cost per pound of pears remains constant.** Fact 1: 1 pound of pears costs$0.5 more than 1 pound of apples.

IF....
A pound of apples cost $1, then a pound of pears costs$1.50
5 pounds of apples = $5$5 = $1.50(X pounds of pears) X = 3 1/3 pounds of pears IF... A pound of applies costs$.50, then a pound of pears costs $1 5 pounds of applies =$2.50
$2.50 =$1(X pounds of pears)
X = 2.5 pounds of pears
The answer changes based on the starting price of a pound of applies.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

Fact 2: 1 pound of pears costs 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples

IF...
A pound of applies costs $1, then a pound of pears costs$1.50
5 pounds of applies = $5$5 = $1.50(X pounds of pears) X = 3 1/3 pounds of pears A pound of applies costs$2, then a pound of pears costs $3 5 pounds of applies =$10
$10 =$3(X pounds of pears)
X = 3 1/3 pounds of pears

A pound of applies costs $0.50, then a pound of pears costs$0.75
5 pounds of apples = $2.50$2.50 = $0.75(X pounds of pears) X = 3 1/3 pounds of pears In EVERY situation, we end up with the SAME number of pounds of pears. Fact 2 is SUFFICIENT Final Answer: [Reveal] Spoiler: B GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made, Rich _________________ 760+: Learn What GMAT Assassins Do to Score at the Highest Levels Contact Rich at: Rich.C@empowergmat.com # Rich Cohen Co-Founder & GMAT Assassin Special Offer: Save$75 + GMAT Club Tests Free
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Seen quite a number of DS problem of this type, when they give you ratio then most probably you can figure it out the values, (2) 3x = 2y. But if they simply give you data like (1) x = y + 0.5 then there are high chances you can't figure it out the answer.

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While ankurjohar's question is over 1.5 years old, I'll still answer it because that approach COULD have worked, but the work was incomplete...

Based on that user's initial steps....

$X = cost of 5 pounds of apples$X/5 = cost of 1 pound of apples

Fact 2 tells us that 1 pound of pears costs 1.5 times the cost of 1 pound of apples.

With some Algebra, we have...

(X/5) = cost of 1 pound of apples
(3/2)(X/5) = cost of 1 pound of pears
3X/10 = cost of 1 pound of pears

At this point, ankurjohar assumed that this was insufficient, but there's still more work to do....

We now have a ratio that relates what $X will buy you in this situation:$X buys you 5 pounds of apples

Since $(3/10)(X) buys you 1 pound of pears,$X will buy you 10/3 pounds of pears, so we CAN answer the question with this information.
Fact 2 is SUFFICIENT.

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(1) 1 pound of pears cost $0.5 more that 1 pound of apples (2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples ................A........P Pounds.......5.........P Price.........x.........y (1) $$y=x+0,5$$, $$5x=p(x+0,5)$$, you cannot get rid of x, hence not sufficient (2) $$y=1,5x$$ --> $$5x=p*1,5x$$ -> $$p=10/3$$ Answer B _________________ When you’re up, your friends know who you are. When you’re down, you know who your friends are. Share some Kudos, if my posts help you. Thank you ! 800Score ONLY QUANT CAT1 51, CAT2 50, CAT3 50 GMAT PREP 670 MGMAT CAT 630 KAPLAN CAT 660 Kudos [?]: 461 [0], given: 200 Math Revolution GMAT Instructor Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 4142 Kudos [?]: 2899 [0], given: 0 GPA: 3.82 Re: Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears [#permalink] ### Show Tags 14 Jan 2016, 18:31 Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution. Pat bought 5 pounds of apples. How many pounds of pears could he have bought for same amount of money? (1) 1 pound of pears cost$0.5 more that 1 pound of apples
(2) 1 pound of pears cost 1.5 times as much as 1 pound of apples

When you modify the original condition and the question, it is frequently given on GMAT Math, which is "2 by 2" que like the table below.
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On the tables, n=? is derived from 5a=np. Generally, when one con indicates number and the other con indicates ratio, it is most likely that ratio is an answer. As for this question, in 1) number and 2) ratio, substitute p=1.5a in 2) to 5a=np and it becomes 5a=n(1.5a). Then delete a on the both equations -> 5=1.5n, n=5/1.5, which is unique and sufficient. Therefore the answer is B.

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A is insufficient because the amount of peers will change depending on the cost of apples.

B establishes a relationship:
5 pounds of apples -----> x $y pounds of peers -------> 1.5x$

Solving we have: 5x/1/3x/2---->10/3---> 3 1/3 pounds of peers.
Sufficient.

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A is insufficient ecause the amount of peers will change depending of the cost of apples.

B establishes a relationship:
5 pounds of apples -----> x $y pounds of peers -------> 1.5x$

Solving we have: 5x/1/3x/2---->10/3---> 3 1/3 pounds of peers.
Sufficient.
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