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New post 07 May 2011, 18:53
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Strange, to me it seems B is essentially a para phrase of the conclusion and thus a better choice than E.

Feel the same.
(B) can't be the right answer?

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New post 08 May 2011, 09:48
B cannot be the right answer , here is the explanation

conclusion :Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy

B states : People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.

there is clear difference between can and will, and a trap is present here , need to look closely.There can be several reasons for not being happy , besides financial problems.


E states : If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.

this is logical , as the premise is : People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy .

so to be happy 1 necessary (but not sufficient) condition is to not have serious financial problems.
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OA is E

But can someone help in negating B?

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People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy. Their misery makes everyone close to them—family, friends, colleagues—unhappy as well. Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy.
Which one of the following statements can be properly inferred from the passage?

(B) People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.
(E) If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.

e is the best here
let me try to explain situation with B,
if you go through the part in bold you can see never in the argument it has been mentioned " X is happy if he solves his problem"
its only mentioned that their problems are solved not that they solve their problem I prefer to say its shell game types answer.
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I have a doubt in this question:

This question has two "if-then" relations.
Premise : Serious Financial Problems (SFP) ----> Not Happy ( H not)
Conclusion : SFP not -----> Happy

Now, as I read somewhere that the correct inference of if X---->then Y ,is, if not Y----->then not X (Please correct me if this concept is incorrect)
option D says : Happy not------> SFP ,which correctly infers the conclusion.
option E says : Happy-----> SFP not, which correctly infers the premise.

Can someone please identify and highlight the error in application of the concept or the concept itself I mentioned?

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I have a doubt in this question:

This question has two "if-then" relations.
Premise : Serious Financial Problems (SFP) ----> Not Happy ( H not)
Conclusion : SFP not -----> Happy

Now, as I read somewhere that the correct inference of if X---->then Y ,is, if not Y----->then not X (Please correct me if this concept is incorrect)
option D says : Happy not------> SFP ,which correctly infers the conclusion.
option E says : Happy-----> SFP not, which correctly infers the premise.

Can someone please identify and highlight the error in application of the concept or the concept itself I mentioned?


SFP is not the only cause of unhappiness.

(D) If people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems.
they could be unhappy because of other reasons as well (their team lost, and so on...), not ONLY because of sfp.

E is correct because the presence of happiness excludes the presence of SFP ( because if they were present they would NOT be happy).
(E) If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.
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@Zarrolou

I may be the saying the same thing, but want to check whether my approach is fine.

"Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy." ==> Necessary condition

implies that for a person to be happy, he must not have any serious financial difficulties.

So (E) => If a person is happy, then he must have crossed the necessary condition i.e. he does not face any serious financial problems.

"People with serious financial problems cannot be happy." ==> One of the factors to be unhappy

(D) => if people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems => one of the factors so they may have/not have financial problems => CAN'T INFER

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@Zarrolou

I may be the saying the same thing, but want to check whether my approach is fine.

"Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy." ==> Necessary condition

implies that for a person to be happy, he must not have any serious financial difficulties.

So (E) => If a person is happy, then he must have crossed the necessary condition i.e. he does not face any serious financial problems.

"People with serious financial problems cannot be happy." ==> One of the factors to be unhappy

(D) => if people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems => one of the factors so they may have/not have financial problems => CAN'T INFER


Perfect.
Because we do not not if SFP is the ONLY cause of unhappiness, D is incorrect (there could be other factors).
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People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy. Their misery makes everyone close to them—family, friends, colleagues—unhappy as well. Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy.
Which one of the following statements can be properly inferred from the passage?
(A) Only serious problems make people unhappy.
(B) People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.
(C) People who do not have serious financial problems will be happy.
(D) If people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems.
(E) If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.


pls explain ur answers.


sol: B is a bloody trap answer

sentence 1> FP-> !happy
sentence 3> Happy->!FP

search for answer which represents any one of the above.

only E restates the sentence 3

B says !FP-> Happy (reverse of what sentence 3 states)

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talk2pk wrote:
People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy. Their misery makes everyone close to them—family, friends, colleagues—unhappy as well. Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy.
Which one of the following statements can be properly inferred from the passage?
(A) Only serious problems make people unhappy.
(B) People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.
(C) People who do not have serious financial problems will be happy.
(D) If people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems.
(E) If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.


pls explain ur answers.


sol: B is a bloody trap answer

sentence 1> FP-> !happy
sentence 3> Happy->!FP

search for answer which represents any one of the above.

only E restates the sentence 3

B says !FP-> Happy (reverse of what sentence 3 states)




E states " Financial problem is the only problem in world and if its not there people are happy" , But B is derived from the Set of statements given in the question. I'm unable to understand why B is wrong :(

Inference -> Given information true means what else can be true. It has to be dervied from the given set of statements. 'B' Satisfies everything.

Can anybody help me if i am wrong in the way i am seeing things here???

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Question says : financial problems solved--> happy

A out of scope
B solve their financial problem --> happy
C don't solve --> unhappy
D unhappy --> have serious problem
E happy --> no financial problem

So I guess B is more close to question conclusion.

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also took B but shifted to E

B is too strong in comparision with argument conclusion.
We can say that if people happy they do not have serious financial problem because premise strongly says:
"People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy"

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People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy. Their misery makes everyone close to them—family, friends, colleagues—unhappy as well. Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy.
Which one of the following statements can be properly inferred from the passage?
(A) Only serious problems make people unhappy.
(B) People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.
(C) People who do not have serious financial problems will be happy.
(D) If people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems.
(E) If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems.


I am not getting convinced with any of the answer choices. The contenders are "B" and "E". One way or the other both of them indicate that if people do not have serious financial problem they will be happy. However, as per the premise misery of a person makes family, friends and colleagues unhappy as well. The point is even if someone has solved his/her serious financial problem or do not have it at all, he/she still could be unhappy if his/her family, friends and colleagues are not happy because of some misery on their part.

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The concept of sufficient and necessary condition is very well explained by VeritasPrepKarishma

Statement: If A, then B (A is sufficient for B to happen)

ð A implies B

ð B does NOT imply A

ð ‘Not A’ does NOT imply ‘Not B’

ð ‘Not B’ implies ‘Not A’

Statement: Only if A, then B (A is necessary for B to happen)

ð A does NOT imply B

ð B implies A

ð ‘Not A’ implies ‘Not B’

ð ‘Not B’ does NOT imply ‘Not A’

Choice E (correct answer) falls into Only if A, then B => B implies A

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