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# Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents

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14 Dec 2006, 10:42

"Look for clarity and brevity. (E), is best: none of the other, longer choices is any clearer. .......... (D) changes the sentence's meaning.

I picked (E) too. I don't see how (D) changes the sentence's meaning. Anyone?

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14 Dec 2006, 11:03
ggarr wrote:

"Look for clarity and brevity. (E), is best: none of the other, longer choices is any clearer. .......... (D) changes the sentence's meaning.

I picked (E) too. I don't see how (D) changes the sentence's meaning. Anyone?

Hmm, maybe because "as" can be used instead of "because" and that would change the meaning to something like discipline your male children because you know you discipline your daughters.

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14 Dec 2006, 16:33
somehow E seems to be a bit unclear to me.
with D the meaning is clearly conveyed.
what's the OR

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29 Apr 2008, 08:55
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A.

B. in the same manner that they would use with

C. like they would handle

D. as they discipline

E. as they would
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29 Apr 2008, 09:05
a. awkward
b. concision
c. discipline and handle not ll

d and e are difficult

i think d is incorrect because male children could be the "they" disciplining daughters
e avoids the confusion

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29 Apr 2008, 11:10
prasannar wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A.

B. in the same manner that they would use with

C. like they would handle

D. as they discipline

E. as they would

D. 'advocate that' requires the subjunctive and requires the base form of the verb.

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29 Apr 2008, 16:49
D.

Conciseness. All the other ones were not concise enough or awkward.

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29 Apr 2008, 17:41
prasannar wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A.

B. in the same manner that they would use with

C. like they would handle

D. as they discipline

E. as they would

Throw out A and B because they are just ridiculously awkward. 'Like' is used to compare nouns and 'as' is used to compare actions. We are comparing how parent's discipline children of different genders, so that's an action. Eliminate C.

This leaves D and E. Plug both into the sentence and then compare:

(D) Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children as they discipline daughters.

(E) Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children as they would daughters.

They both sound right but D is more complete than E. There might also be a parallelism issue here, "...parents (would) discipline male children as they would (discipline) daughters." Am I right in stating this or am I just making something out of nothing?

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29 Apr 2008, 20:20
Good analysis Yih Wei - i think D too. It does not seem to me like they necessarily need to be parallel but as you said D seems more complete and is parallel so it seems better.

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29 Apr 2008, 23:14
prasannar wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A.

B. in the same manner that they would use with

C. like they would handle

D. as they discipline

E. as they would

I am going for D. parents (verb) A as they (action) B.

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30 Apr 2008, 02:36
E sounds the best - the verb form should be in subjunctive mood.

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01 May 2008, 12:08
I would go for D. E has one more problem, 'would'. Would normally used for contiondal way.

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01 May 2008, 12:22
OA is D
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09 May 2008, 13:33
How can D be correct? It seems to change the meaning. If they discipline male children as they discipline daughters, that means to me that they are disciplining them both at the same time. It has an ambigous meaning.

E seemed concise and retained the meaning of the original sentence.
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Just don't get this one. [#permalink]

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13 Nov 2009, 13:57
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A) similarly to the fashion in which they discipline
B) in the same manner that that they would use with
C) like they would handle
D) as they discipline
E) as they would

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13 Nov 2009, 14:19
Casinoking wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A) similarly to the fashion in which they discipline
B) in the same manner that that they would use with
C) like they would handle
D) as they discipline
E) as they would

You can interpret D in two different ways

A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X and Y at same time
A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X as Do Y

E is more clear

A do x as A would [do] Y
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13 Nov 2009, 14:25
x2suresh wrote:
Casinoking wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A) similarly to the fashion in which they discipline
B) in the same manner that that they would use with
C) like they would handle
D) as they discipline
E) as they would

You can interpret D in two different ways

A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X and Y at same time
A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X as Do Y

E is more clear

A do x as A would [do] Y

Thanks for pointing out the difference. However, when we use "as" for comparison, we don't consider the two actions happening at the same time.
I am confused by this subtle difference.

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13 Nov 2009, 14:46
Casinoking wrote:
x2suresh wrote:
Casinoking wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A) similarly to the fashion in which they discipline
B) in the same manner that that they would use with
C) like they would handle
D) as they discipline
E) as they would

You can interpret D in two different ways

A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X and Y at same time
A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X as Do Y

E is more clear

A do x as A would [do] Y

Thanks for pointing out the difference. However, when we use "as" for comparison, we don't consider the two actions happening at the same time.
I am confused by this subtle difference.

As can be used for other than comparisons als.
"As" can means -> at the same time that (While)
Take another example:
I fell asleep as I was reading. [both happened at same time]
Mom Scold Daughter as She scold Son. [both happened at same time]
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13 Nov 2009, 15:40
Casinoking wrote:
x2suresh wrote:
Casinoking wrote:
Popular child psychologists have advocated that parents discipline male children similarly to the fashion in which they discipline daughters.

A) similarly to the fashion in which they discipline
B) in the same manner that that they would use with
C) like they would handle
D) as they discipline
E) as they would

You can interpret D in two different ways

A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X and Y at same time
A do x as A do Y --> can interpret --> Do X as Do Y

E is more clear

A do x as A would [do] Y

Thanks for pointing out the difference. However, when we use "as" for comparison, we don't consider the two actions happening at the same time.
I am confused by this subtle difference.

These two things aren't really happening at the same time. One is a theoretical "as"

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04 Sep 2011, 20:18
OA is E. confirmed from KAPLAN book.

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