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Re: Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth [#permalink]
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i marked C ,mostly because other choices are just plain wrong. however C also seems wrong to me and i guess the maker of this question wanted to say the following C
C modified : Pandas that are already likely to live longer are NOT more likely to give birth to live young
i marked C believing that the question writer wanted to convey what i have written in modified C
u have cited the source as manhattan so i will ask u to check if u have done the mistake as MANHATTAN hardly makes mistakes!
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i marked C ,mostly because other choices are just plain wrong. however C also seems wrong to me and i guess the maker of this question wanted to say the following C
C modified : Pandas that are already likely to live longer are NOT more likely to give birth to live young
i marked C believing that the question writer wanted to convey what i have written in modified C
u have cited the source as manhattan so i will ask u to check if u have done the mistake as MANHATTAN hardly makes mistakes!



I agree. Even I had the same line of reasoning when i answered the question. That is why I posted this question to see what others think.
The question is from Manhattan Foundations of GMAT Verbal Fifth Edition - Chapter 11 "Putting It All Together" Page 217, Question #4
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agree with you . if the current version of this question is okay , then Answer should be D !

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Re: Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth [#permalink]
Nothing seemed wrong to me with choice D. Infact modified version of choice C as explained by aditya8062 could also be right.

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Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth to live young live longer in the wild. Therefore, these researches have concluded that giving birth to live young increases a panda's lifespan.

The argument makes which of the following assumptions?

A. Pandas that have given birth to live young will not be killed by predators.
B. Since male pandas cannot give birth, female pandas live longer than male pandas.
C. Pandas that are already likely to live longer are also more likely to give birth to live young.
D. Female pandas are not likely to die while giving birth.
E. Pandas that have given birth to multiple live young are likely to live even longer than pandas that have given birth to only a single live offspring.




c should be the correct one as

A-AGAINST THE EVIDENCE FIRST LINE OF THE ARGUMENT-ITS A GENERAL TRUTH GIVEN
B-OUT OS SCOPE -TAKING ABOUT MALE/FEMALE
C-CORRECT
D-IRRELEVANT
E-ATTRACTIVE BUT TRAP AS MULTIPLE BIRTH AND COMPARISON IS NOT DISCUSS IN THE ARGUMENT


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i marked C ,mostly because other choices are just plain wrong. however C also seems wrong to me and i guess the maker of this question wanted to say the following C
C modified : Pandas that are already likely to live longer are NOT more likely to give birth to live young
i marked C believing that the question writer wanted to convey what i have written in modified C
u have cited the source as manhattan so i will ask u to check if u have done the mistake as MANHATTAN hardly makes mistakes!




Can you plz further paraphrase C still I am not able to understand what C is trying to say :s
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Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth to live young live longer in the wild. Therefore, these researches have concluded that giving birth to live young increases a panda's lifespan.

The argument makes which of the following assumptions?

A. Pandas that have given birth to live young will not be killed by predators.
B. Since male pandas cannot give birth, female pandas live longer than male pandas.
C. Pandas that are already likely to live longer are also more likely to give birth to live young.
D. Female pandas are not likely to die while giving birth.
E. Pandas that have given birth to multiple live young are likely to live even longer than pandas that have given birth to only a single live offspring.



C and D are the close answers , others all are irrelevant ..
But i think I will go with D as it talks about Female pandas , While the C option says that " Pandas that are already likely to live longer are also more likely to give birth to live young." but all pandas cant give birth to live young only female pandas can give ..

My Answer is D ..

Please make me understand whats wrong with D ?
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can someone please illustrate A. and why it is wrong?

The modified C is the correct answer.
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D is wrong as the author states that after giving birth scenario
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Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth to live young live longer in the wild. Therefore, these researches have concluded that giving birth to live young increases a panda's lifespan.

The argument makes which of the following assumptions?

A. Pandas that have given birth to live young will not be killed by predators. the conclusion is about giving birth to live long is the cause of increases a panda's lifespan. the argument is not about the other causes of death among pandas.
B. Since male pandas cannot give birth, female pandas live longer than male pandas. I think this information is what we can infer from the argument. actually, it does not add any new information to the argument
C. Pandas that are already likely to live longer are also more likely to give birth to live young. if we negate this option then the conclusion will fall apart.
D. Female pandas are not likely to die while giving birth. the argument does not talk about the possibilities that might happen to pandas while giving birth
E. Pandas that have given birth to multiple live young are likely to live even longer than pandas that have given birth to only a single live offspring.might be true. so, cannot be an assumption
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Researches have noted that panda bears that have given birth to live young live longer in the wild. Therefore, these researches have concluded that giving birth to live young increases a panda's lifespan.

The argument makes which of the following assumptions?

A. Pandas that have given birth to live young will not be killed by predators. the conclusion is about giving birth to live long is the cause of increases a panda's lifespan. the argument is not about the other causes of death among pandas.
B. Since male pandas cannot give birth, female pandas live longer than male pandas. I think this information is what we can infer from the argument. actually, it does not add any new information to the argument
C. Pandas that are already likely to live longer are also more likely to give birth to live young. if we negate this option then the conclusion will fall apart.
D. Female pandas are not likely to die while giving birth. the argument does not talk about the possibilities that might happen to pandas while giving birth
E. Pandas that have given birth to multiple live young are likely to live even longer than pandas that have given birth to only a single live offspring.might be true. so, cannot be an assumption



Hello,

IMO D has to b it...
its bcoz,

C has a classic wrong answer pattern like-
Since A happens bcz of B,then B also happens cz of A.

Jus go through this negation of choice D-

Female pandas are likely to die as they give birth...! its exact opposite of conclusion that pandas that give birth live longer..!
This negation just kills the answer choice as well as the arguement structure..!may b modified version of that answer option stated above would have created more confusion..nevertheless,D seem to be it..!




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Answer choice (C) should read:

"Pandas that are already likely to live longer are not [emphasis added] also more likely to give birth to live young."

In an earlier version of the book, the word "not" was missing. This was fixed in later printings of the book, so your book may or may not have the correct wording.
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Wrong option.

The word NOT is missing in option C.
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Should not this question be corrected? I like C, that's the flaw in the line of reasoning. They never evaluated the possibility of C. It's clearly not an assumption.
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I just googled it. https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 69-15.html

Manhattan Staff agrees that the word NOT is missing in option C. The question has been deleted in newer versions of the book as it seems.
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we need an assumption here ...
even if there was "not" here option c Seems like an inference .
If the pandas-obviously females that give birth ,universal truth-were to die then its life span doesn't increase. It affects the conclusion. if the Pandas were to live its life span increases. It does affect the conclusion.
So this has got to be the assumption.

@carcass-Your thoughts on this please
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C in its current form cant be the right answer. It has to be modified as mentioned by the expert above!
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