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Example 1: You find which in an IC and that IC is conjugated by a fanboy conjunction. Therefore structurally there cannot be a modified noun before the word. Second, ‘which’ is an adjective that modifies the noun, kinds, a noun that follows the interrogative pronoun rather than precedes it.
2. This is a flipped sentence of ‘Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe, which they dressed a statue of the goddess Athena with. For all practical purposes, ‘with which’ and ‘which’ mean the same thing. It may therefore be seen that, ‘which’ actually stands for the noun robe.
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1. Can you explain me in simpler terms why in the posted question, which is not preceeded by a noun there. I am not able to understand what is a fan boy conjuction and IC in your statement..Can you explain in simple terms ..
2.Can you also explain here the pronoun it refers to what and can you help in eliminating the answer choices in the question
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I am not able to understand the subject for becomes. Is it lying or social ineractions. Looks like lying
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Hi Rrkan,

It has to be 'lying' - 'social interactions' is a plural and so would need a plural word to replace 'it' - since all 5 options have the singular 'it' then this can not be what is being tested.

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While recognizing that lying often facilitates social ineractions,psychiatrists are seeking to determine when they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal.

a.they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal
b.they become destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by them
c.it becomes destructive and what are the kinds of mental problems they signal
d.it becomes destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by it
e.it becomes destructive and which kinds of mental problems it can signal


When i read this question. i can straightforward eliminate A. What's 'they' referring too. It's social ineractions or psychiatrists. Both doesn't fit into the meaning of the sentence. Eliminate A,B and C. I eliminate D because it's in passive voice and because we have E which is written in active voice without any grammatical error. Hence i pick E.
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While recognizing that lying often facilitates social ineractions,psychiatrists are seeking to determine when they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal.

a.they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal
b.they become destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by them
c.it becomes destructive and what are the kinds of mental problems they signal
d.it becomes destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by it
e.it becomes destructive and which kinds of mental problems it can signal



Can someone explain the difference between D and E. I cannot see any fault with D.
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Just because D is in a passive voice does not automatically eliminate it. Does anyone else have any explanation why D is incorrect? The answers above have not sufficiently explained why D is incorrect.
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Just because D is in a passive voice does not automatically eliminate it. Does anyone else have any explanation why D is incorrect? The answers above have not sufficiently explained why D is incorrect.


Yes, passive voice DOES make it incorrect. Passive voice alone does NOT eliminate an answer choice, but when it tires to sit parallely with an active voice, it surely is wrong.

Have you read EducationAisle 's post above?
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While recognizing that lying often facilitates social ineractions,psychiatrists are seeking to determine when they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal.

a.they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal
b.they become destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by them
c.it becomes destructive and what are the kinds of mental problems they signal
d.it becomes destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by it
e.it becomes destructive and which kinds of mental problems it can signal



Subject-Verb Agreement, Parallelism

'lying' is the reasonable subject for 'become destructive', so the pronoun should be 'it' and verb should be 'becomes'.
Further, the two items that psychiatrists are seeking to determine should be stated in parallel structures.

a. they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal

b.they become destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by them

'the mental problems' is not parallel to 'when they become'

c.it becomes destructive and what are the kinds of mental problems they signal

Also the inversion in the second part is not necessary.

d.it becomes destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by it

second part is not parallel to 'when it becomes destructive'


e.it becomes destructive and which kinds of mental problems it can signal Correct!

pronouns and verb agree with 'lying'. Also, 'when it becomes ...' is parallel to 'which kinds of ...'
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I have a quick question about the official explanation

It says that E is correct because parallelism and that 'which' is an interrogative pronoun that is parallel with When.

Is When and Which both parallel elements? I did not think When was interrogative.
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I have a quick question about the official explanation

It says that E is correct because parallelism and that 'which' is an interrogative pronoun that is parallel with When.

Is When and Which both parallel elements? I did not think When was interrogative.


This surely does not debate about when and which are interrogative pronouns or not.

Sentence strictly demands two parallel structure.

[1] : <when>< lying> <becomes destructive> ; structure <question> <noun> < verb>
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[2] : <which kinds of mental problems> <lying> <can signal>
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While recognizing that lying often facilitates social ineractions,psychiatrists are seeking to determine when they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal.

a.they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal
b.they become destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by them
c.it becomes destructive and what are the kinds of mental problems they signal
d.it becomes destructive and the mental problems that are signaled by it
e.it becomes destructive and which kinds of mental problems it can signal

The subject is lying and the verbs refering to it is 'it' while the choices that refers to it as 'they' are incorrectly refering to interactions so we eliminate A,B abd C.
Option D is distorting the intended meaning of the sentence and thus is eliminated.We are left with ption E which is the correct free of grammatical errors and if conveying the correct meaning of the sentence.

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I thought that which had to refer to the word directly in front of it...I guess i misinterpreted that rule? I wanted to pick E based off of what sounds best... but I went with D b/c of what I guess is a misunderstood rule associated with "which"
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I thought that which had to refer to the word directly in front of it...I guess i misinterpreted that rule? I wanted to pick E based off of what sounds best... but I went with D b/c of what I guess is a misunderstood rule associated with "which"
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It cannot be D because of lack of parallelism and use of passive voice (to be avoided in GMAT).
So the clear answer is E, which rectify both these issues.

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How does lying becomes a subject here. Social interactions can perfectly be subject here. Experts please explain
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ankujgupta , I am not an expert, but the following has helped me improve my SC score dramatically. While it is so important to look at rules (ex: parallelism, comma structure, etc.), I would argue that it is more important to ask yourself, "does this make sense?" EX: "does it make more sense that social interaction could become destructive and cause mental problems, or does it make more sense that lying could become destructive and cause mental problems?" Lying=Bad, so I'm going to go with lying as the subject.... if this doesn't make sense, reverse the structure: "psychiatrists are seeking to determine when they become destructive and which kinds of mental problems they can signal, while recognizing that lying often facilitates social interactions" that generally helps me to identify what is wrong with structure.....automatically, i am thinking lying has to be the subject, when i reverse struct....If that doesn't jump out to you, here is an explanation: the word after "that" is the subject b/c social interactions will not facilitate lying, but lying might facilitate/make it easier to have social interactions.

Not sure if that makes sense, but I thought I'd share the "aha" moment for me.
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