stoiczoan wrote:
FuturePM91 wrote:
hiren2011 wrote:
[quote="stoiczoan"][quote="jeromemorrow"]
This is quite possible, but I genuinely believe I put in a strong effort on the essays. I genuinely love Michigan and while it is a back-up in the sense that I would go to H/S/W/B over Ross, I put Ross above most of the other M7 due to our family connections to the university and other non-career or academic reasons. It is fairly frustrating as I am in a weird spot where my stats are in-line but not guaranteed to any M7 school, so a 'back-up' is necessary.
If I think from Ross' point of view, a good yield strategy would be to keep you waitlisted till R3. That way you'll opt-out if you get one of your more preferred schools in R2, and still be available for them if you don't get anything in R2 and want Ross at the end. So in the end, they don't lose out on you as a great candidate, but will only make admission offer if there's a higher degree of certainty that you will join.
Agreed.
It is a business strategy schools employ - why wouldn't they, they are teaching those things to us!!
I disagree with the sentiment. Even if they think you are using Ross as a back up school I would think that they would still interview you if you’re a strong candidate to gauge your interest in the school because they could miss out on a lot of good candidates if they didn’t bother. Also I met several people at Ross who chose Ross over an M7 because of scholarships. Clearly they can be successful at luring candidates from top schools so I would be surprised if that was the reason behind not interviewing you
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You can disagree all you like but that does not change the fact that “Yield” is a very important metric that affects a school’s reputation and ranking. And it is natural that schools try to manage it.
Personal anecdotes of people choosing Ross over M7 don’t provide evidence to disprove the claim. Of course there will be great candidates who get some M7 converts along with Ross, and may choose Ross. Ross is a great school.
But even within “great candidates” there’s a whole range, and some will be much much more attractive to schools than others.
The person above has 5 M7 interview invites! That’s a pretty stellar performance.. which means that the person is a highly attractive candidate for top schools. It will be easy for Ross AdCom to spot that, and strategize accordingly.
All schools do this. Booth etc will ding candidates who are H/S material in their opinion and may be using Booth as a backup. That doesn’t mean that there are no candidates with common admits across H/S/W/B. There will always be those.. but there will also be some whose profile is shouting out loud and clear that they will be going to a school ranked above.
As a final point, if Ross did not like this candidate they should have dinged him already. But they haven’t. A person with 5 M7 interview invites being sort of waitlisted by Ross is pointing towards a yield play.
Of course, no one knows for sure. But I’m just using available facts to reach a reasonable inference.[/quote]
First of all. I never said yield wasn’t important or that this wasn’t a fact. I said I was surprised that they haven’t at least interviewed him even if they believe that they may be the back up school. Not sure where you got that from.
Second, you’re right none of us know for sure including you. These are just our opinions I was simply stating mine and the reasoning behind it. Feel free to disagree but it doesn’t mean either of us is right. Just two different ways of looking at the same information.
Admissions is a black box. Just because you get in or get interviews at one school doesn’t mean that you automatically will get interviews at another because of that school’s rank. H/S/W/B are all excellent schools but they have very different cultures compared to Ross. Maybe this person isn’t a culture fit and that’s why they didn’t get an interview. You don’t know. No one does and I think it’s a disservice to both applicants and the schools to assert your opinion as the reason behind a decision like it is fact when there are multiple possibilities.
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