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# Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been

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Joined: 14 Jul 2008
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Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been [#permalink]

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12 Aug 2008, 12:35
I have studied for 5 weeks.
vs.
I have been studying since July 1st.

Are both of these correct, and do they mean the same thing?

Another alternative, "I have studied since July 1st", sounds wrong.
Is that because "since" requires you to put the verb in present tense?
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Re: Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been [#permalink]

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12 Aug 2008, 12:37
Both of your study examples are correct, and they mean very different things.

"I have studied for 5 weeks." This means that at some point in the past, you studied for 5 weeks. It implies that you are no longer studying; you're done.

"I have been studying since July 1st." means you started studying on July 1st and continue to study even today, without breaks since then.

PatrickBateman wrote:
I have studied for 5 weeks.
vs.
I have been studying since July 1st.

Are both of these correct, and do they mean the same thing?

Another alternative, "I have studied since July 1st", sounds wrong.
Is that because "since" requires you to put the verb in present tense?

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Re: Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been [#permalink]

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12 Aug 2008, 12:45
but the syntax for present perfect is:

[has/have + past participle]

then what is the difference between:

"I have studied for 5 weeks"
vs.
"I studied for 5 weeks".

jallenmorris wrote:
Both of your study examples are correct, and they mean very different things.

"I have studied for 5 weeks." This means that at some point in the past, you studied for 5 weeks. It implies that you are no longer studying; you're done.

"I have been studying since July 1st." means you started studying on July 1st and continue to study even today, without breaks since then.

PatrickBateman wrote:
I have studied for 5 weeks.
vs.
I have been studying since July 1st.

Are both of these correct, and do they mean the same thing?

Another alternative, "I have studied since July 1st", sounds wrong.
Is that because "since" requires you to put the verb in present tense?

_________________

I did it all for the Starwood points.

Manager
Joined: 14 Jul 2008
Posts: 96
Schools: HBS, Stanford.
Re: Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been [#permalink]

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12 Aug 2008, 12:50
hmmm.....

upon closer inspection have + been + past participle is present perfect continuous....as you explained.

I guess I always thought that present perfect was present perfect continuous.

The take-away then is that present perfect means that the statement continues to be true, not necessarily that the action continues to happen (that would be present perfect continuous).

Thanks.
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Re: Present Perfect: Have vs. Have Been   [#permalink] 12 Aug 2008, 12:50
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