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# Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will

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194. Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will
demonstrate adaptive equipment that allows visually impaired people to use computers.
(A) one who
(B) one of them who
(C) and one of them who
(D) one of whom
(E) one of which

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27 Sep 2004, 21:56
D for me too. I think it is right.
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28 Sep 2004, 02:17
Can anybody explain whom in this context? So, who is presenting? The blind person of the presenters?
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28 Sep 2004, 06:50
D it is
the presenters are presenting
but one of them is blind --> this is just to add extraneous information
"one of whom" is right as it is the object form
There is object and subject form. To know which to use, replace "whom" by "them"(object form) or "they"(subject form).
As you can see, "them" is right and "whom" must be it.
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28 Sep 2004, 07:20
Paul wrote:
D it is
the presenters are presenting
but one of them is blind --> this is just to add extraneous information
"one of whom" is right as it is the object form
There is object and subject form. To know which to use, replace "whom" by "them"(object form) or "they"(subject form).
As you can see, "them" is right and "whom" must be it.

Paul, so will it be correct if instead of D we had "one of them" and why B is not correct- is it because of extreneous "who".
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28 Sep 2004, 07:42
"whom" is prefered because it is a relative pronoun and makes it that "the blind person" we are talking about belongs to the group of "presenters". As to the second question, you are right. Anyhow, "one of them who" can be more elegantly replaced by "one of whom"
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19 Aug 2005, 11:57
Can someone explain why B and C are incorrect? I'd to understand the grammer behind why B/C is wrong.

Anyone?

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19 Aug 2005, 12:20
You need a full clause to recognise the blind candidate from a group of presenters.

The only way you can do it is if you have a subject and a predicate (verb + extra material).

Actually Paul's explaination is not right...

You can not use "one of them who is blind". Simple Because in this form, we have 2 subjects (one of them) and Who and each is competing for the verb "is"

The only possible answer is to identify the sentence that has one subject...

Subject - One of WHOM
Predicate - is blind..

And that is the reason A, B, and C are wrong..

Only possible answers are D and E. E is out because, WHICH is used to refer to people. You need to replace WHICH with WHOM.

Hope it helps...

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19 Aug 2005, 12:30
riteshgupta1 wrote:
You can not use "one of them who is blind". Simple Because in this form, we have 2 subjects (one of them) and Who and each is competing for the verb "is"

The only possible answer is to identify the sentence that has one subject...

Hope it helps...

How do you distiguish between "2 subjects" and a relative pronoun that further defines the scope of the subject.

For e.g: The boy [subject #1] who [a relative pronoun, which could possibly be subject #2] ate pizza feel sick ---> I know this sentence is correct from a gramatical perspective.

So why is the "same rule" not applicable to the following:

Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate......

So question is how do you recognize when "who", a relative pronoun, can sometimes also act as the subject?

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19 Aug 2005, 14:58
gmataquaguy wrote:
riteshgupta1 wrote:
You can not use "one of them who is blind". Simple Because in this form, we have 2 subjects (one of them) and Who and each is competing for the verb "is"

The only possible answer is to identify the sentence that has one subject...

Hope it helps...

How do you distiguish between "2 subjects" and a relative pronoun that further defines the scope of the subject.

For e.g: The boy [subject #1] who [a relative pronoun, which could possibly be subject #2] ate pizza feel sick ---> I know this sentence is correct from a gramatical perspective.

So why is the "same rule" not applicable to the following:

Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate......

So question is how do you recognize when "who", a relative pronoun, can sometimes also act as the subject?

In your example, there is only one subject (The boy) for main clause and one subject (Who, refrerring to the noun) for restrictive clause...

Look at this...

An elephant who has a red trunk eats grass.

In this
In main clause Subject is - An elephant
Verb of main clause - eats

In restrictive clause -

Subject WHO
verb and hence predicate of restrictive clause - has a red trunk.

If you see that there are two independent subjects then you need 2 verbs. You Need to make sure that the subjects are not making a compound subject.

Don and Mary carry a case.

Here Don and Mary is a compound subject.

Hope it helps.

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