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Let's start...and here is the first question.

There are 1001 red marbles and 1001 black marbles in a box. Let Ps be the probability that two marbles drawn at random from the box are the same color, and let Pd be the probability that they are diﬀerent colors. Find |Ps − Pd|.

$$(A) 0$$

$$(B) \frac{1}{2002}$$

$$(C) \frac{1}{2001}$$

$$(D) \frac{2}{2001}$$

$$(E) \frac{1}{1000}$$
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Because of symmetry (1001 red = 1001 black) it doesn't matter what marble we take first. For second marble:
$$\frac{1000}{2001}$$ - the same color

$$\frac{1001}{2001}$$ - the different color

$$|Ps - Pd| = |\frac{1000}{2001} - \frac{1001}{2001}| = \frac{1}{2001}$$
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Since the number of black marbles = number of red marbles, we need not consider the first ball in the calculation.

So, the probability of getting different balls = probability of picking up the second ball from the lot other than from which the first ball is picked= $$\frac{1001}{2001}$$

Similarly the probability of getting same colored ball=probability of picking up the second ball from the same lot from which the first ball is picked =$$\frac{1000}{2001}$$

Hence $$|{P_s - P_d}|= \frac{1}{2001}$$
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Here is the next one...

N, the set of natural numbers is portioned into subsets
S1={1}
S2={2,3}
S3={4,5,6}
S4={7,8,9,10} and so on.

The sum of the numbers in subset S50 is

(A) 61,250
(B) 65,525
(C) 42,455
(D) 62,525
(E) None of these

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01 Apr 2009, 11:31
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With the same logic
S50 = 50*49/2 + 1 = 1226

SUM = 1226+1227....(1226+49)
= 1226*50 + (1+2...49)
= 61250 + 49*50/2
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Here is the next one.....

If $$x,y$$are positive integers such that $$5 \times x^3 = 6 \times y^4,$$ find the minimum possible value of $$x+y.$$

A. 1240
B. 1260
C. 1060
D. 1080
E. None of these

Given that: x and y are +ve integers and
5x^3 = 6y^4
5x^3 = 2x3 y^4
y = (5x^3/6)^(1/4)

x = 5x6x6x6 = 6x180= 1080

y = [5 (5x6x6x6)^3 /6)]^(1/4)
y = [5^4 (6)^8)]^(1/4)
y = 5x6x6=180

x+y = 1260

Guess I encountered such question earlier too.
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nightwing79 wrote:
so I had exactly the same working as you did except

"x = 5x6x6x6 = 6x180= 1080"

how did you get that? hmmmm

Just get $$y$$'s value in integer. To do that, $$x$$ has to be $$5*6*6*6$$. Since $$y = 4sqrt(5x^3 / 6)$$ has one $$5$$, one $$6$$ in denominator, and three $$x$$, make the value of $$(5x^3 / 6)$$ a squre of a square. To do that, $$x$$ requires $$5^3$$ to make $$5^4$$ and $$6^9$$ to make $$6^8$$ after cancealing a 6. Hence 4th sqrt power of $$(5x^3 / 6)$$ is a minimum integer vale.

Good stuff!

However - why does it have to be 6^9 why not 6^5 to make 6^4 hence square root of would still be an integer value.

The key is root to the power of 4 - have to remember that and then looking to understand what a min integer value would look like - good learning.

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How do you get that? If you can, then thats the answer. But again, how?:roll:
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cicerone wrote:
Here is the next one.....

If $$x,y$$are positive integers such that $$5 \times x^3 = 6 \times y^4,$$ find the minimum possible value of $$x+y.$$

A. 1240

B. 1260

C. 1060

D. 1080

E. None of these

Folks, nice to see a good discussion on this question and also our friends have come up with some quick and lucid solutions.

I just thought to put forward another lucid way ....

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Because of symmetry (1001 red = 1001 black) it doesn't matter what marble we take first. For second marble:
$$\frac{1000}{2001}$$ - the same color

$$\frac{1001}{2001}$$ - the different color

$$|Ps - Pd| = |\frac{1000}{2001} - \frac{1001}{2001}| = \frac{1}{2001}$$

Walker...i think we should multiply it by 2 for same color and different color individually because we might get 2 blacks or 2 reds. So prob will be 2(1000/2001) and 2(1001/2001)

And the final answer would be 2/2001

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23 Mar 2009, 03:28
This will be my first post here, sorry for my bad spelling (iam not a native english speaker).

First to support the chanse to have two red(r) marbles or two black(b) marbles (Ps).

P( (b*b) + (r*r) )

first marble P1(b) = 1001/2002
second marble p2(b) = 1000/2001 (1 less black marble and 1 less overall marbels)
The same calculation for the red marbles.

((1001/2002)*(1000/2001)) = ((1/2)*(1000/2001)) = 1000/4002 (b*b)
so:
P( (1000/4002) + (1000/4002) ) = 2000/4002 (This makes Ps)

Now for Pd:
The following combinations (r*b) and (b*r)
P( (r*b) + (b*r) )

P( b*r ) = (1001/2002) * (1001/2001) = ((1/2)*(1001/2002))= 1001/4002
Again the same goes for r*b

P( (1001/4002) + (1001/4002) ) = 2002/4002 (this makes Pd)

|Ps - Pd|

(2000/4002) - (2002/4002) = (2/4002) = (1/2001)

So i think it would be answer C.
Than again, its my first post so comments plz

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23 Mar 2009, 03:40
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This will be my first post here, sorry for my bad spelling (iam not a native english speaker).

First to support the chanse to have two red(r) marbles or two black(b) marbles (Ps).

P( (b*b) + (r*r) )

first marble P1(b) = 1001/2002
second marble p2(b) = 1000/2001 (1 less black marble and 1 less overall marbels)
The same calculation for the red marbles.

((1001/2002)*(1000/2001)) = ((1/2)*(1000/2001)) = 1000/4002 (b*b)
so:
P( (1000/4002) + (1000/4002) ) = 2000/4002 (This makes Ps)

Now for Pd:
The following combinations (r*b) and (b*r)
P( (r*b) + (b*r) )

P( b*r ) = (1001/2002) * (1001/2001) = ((1/2)*(1001/2002))= 1001/4002
Again the same goes for r*b

P( (1001/4002) + (1001/4002) ) = 2002/4002 (this makes Pd)

|Ps - Pd|

(2000/4002) - (2002/4002) = (2/4002) = (1/2001)

So i think it would be answer C.
Than again, its my first post so comments plz

Welcome dude...A very good attempt...Why don't you cut down the calculation part? Think of it....
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23 Mar 2009, 15:49
im getting 0 as my answer. is that right ? ill explain my logic if it is.

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23 Mar 2009, 22:54
Agree with walker..

|2002/2002*1000/2001 - 2002/2002*1001/2001| = 1/2001
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Because of symmetry (1001 red = 1001 black) it doesn't matter what marble we take first. For second marble:
$$\frac{1000}{2001}$$ - the same color

$$\frac{1001}{2001}$$ - the different color

$$|Ps - Pd| = |\frac{1000}{2001} - \frac{1001}{2001}| = \frac{1}{2001}$$

once you see it its so obvious!

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25 Mar 2009, 06:36
Sjorsl I concur

Quite simple actually!

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Folks, here comes the next one..This is from Geometry....

IMO A.

the distance from small circle center to the origin point of XY plane is = root2 r.

16 = r + r Root 2)

r = 16(root 2 -1)

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Here is the solution....

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Folks, sorry for the delay.(I was on a vacation)...

Here is the next one.....
There are some boys and some girls. If each child sits on one chair, one boy will have no chair to sit. If two boys sit on one chair and one girl occupies one chair, then three chairs are unoccupied. How many boys are there?

A. 4

B. 6

C. 8

D. 10

E. Cannot be determined

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Folks, sorry for the delay.(I was on a vacation)...

Here is the next one.....
There are some boys and some girls. If each child sits on one chair, one boy will have no chair to sit. If two boys sit on one chair and one girl occupies one chair, then three chairs are unoccupied. How many boys are there?

A. 4

B. 6

C. 8

D. 10

E. Cannot be determined

b + g = c + 1
b/2 + g = c - 3

b = 8
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