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GMAT: 760 (V: 44,Q:49, IR: 7, AWA: 6)
IELTS: 8/9
Law School GPA: 9.3/10
XIIth : 93%
Xth: 10/10 CGPA



3 years of work experience as a lawyer with independent offices.
I practice across constitutional law courts as well as trial and appellate forums. I have also argued across income tax and company law tribunals.
Graduated out of a law school (ranked in top 10) with 15+ university awards on convocation.
Won 2 National Debates, an international policy research competition as well as a national and an international moot.
Published across national and international law journals.
Headed the Mercantile Law School Review as Chief Editor.
Also a volunteer lawyer for the State Legal Services Authority (represented in around 15 matters therein)
Internships include Chief Justice, Attorney General as well as a reputed international organisation


So my reason for applying for a MBA is to marry public policy and consulting . While as a lawyer I deal with doctrines and am required to have a clinical approach, I find great interest in the policy side of things.

To illustrate, I had written a paper on occupational heath and the systemic changes required. The same became basis of a major social action litigation case taken up suo-moto by the court which has now led to my recommendations being incorporated in a major government rehabilitation scheme for workers (3.5 million workers to be precise!). I was part of the court proceedings and later government deliberations as well, for purposes of policy and strategy.
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New post 29 Jul 2019, 08:16
Hi lawyerprofile,

Thank you for your post. In order to provide a nuanced response, could you please share more information, such as age, gender, names of universities (or at least descriptions / tiers / comps), and where you grew up, studied, and work? What does lawyer with independent offices mean? Are you an independent lawyer who works for yourself? If so, does this imply that you've started a business? Who are your clients and how big is the firm? (You don't need to name your clients, but a rough idea would be very helpful.) Finally, can you please share a little bit more about your goals. What do you mean by "marry public policy and consulting"? What types of programs, countries or continents, and specific schools are you considering?

All of this would be very helpful (and is more or less essential!) in order to provide you with a nuanced review. Short of that, the main observation that arises from your current post is that your post-MBA goals and reasons for pursuing an MBA will require a great deal of development. When making a transition as stark as practicing law to pursuing an MBA (even if there is some underlying law- or policy-related relevance), you really need to articulate your reasons for doing so and layers of specificity regarding your short- and long-term goals. If an adcom sees "I have a great interest in the policy side of things," their reaction might be to wonder why you're not then pursuing a pure policy-related degree.

Policy interests can be connected to your MBA goals, or a sub-theme within, but the reasons for pursuing a business degree should be clear. You might start by thinking (very specifically) about what kind of job you'd wish to pursue post-MBA. Is it in fact some sort of public sector consulting? If so, then where, and what type, and what kind of projects would you aim to work on? Local? Federal? Get to know which groups do this work at which consulting firms. Then think about (a) what knowledge, skills, and experience you already have that are relevant these goals, and (b) what knowledge, skills, and experience you are missing and therefore need to acquire via an MBA. Again, policy interests can be part of the equation, but there should be a great deal more in the way of business- and leadership-related matters that you'd need to build to achieve your goals. (And what are your long-term goals?)

In lieu a static, back-and-forth dialogue (which requires a lot of typing for both of us!), it would be easier to go through all of this by way of a Free Consultation, so please feel free to sign up at your convenience here: https://www.avantiprep.com/free-consultation.html. I have worked with lawyer applicants so am versed in how to approach the transition, how to message your current experience in an MBA-relevant manner, and how to articulate your goals and how a combination of law / policy / business (the latter through the MBA) enables those goals. You have a very nice GMAT score and some seemingly interesting experience, so I'd love to learn more about that and start to figure how to position your transition to pursuing an MBA. (You can also email me directly at greg@avantiprep.com.)

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Hi!

So I am an Indian male lawyer.

1.By independent practise, I mean that I have my own office and staff; rather than me acting as a solicitor for a law firm.

2.I am 25 years old.

3. The clients include the Union & State Government; certain HNI'S (high net worth individuals) as well as multi million dollar companies.

4. The size of the office is humble, since I was earlier working for a senior counsel and branched out a couple of years ago.

5. I wish to transition towards working across regulatory and public policy verticals of premier consulting firms. The reason is that I get a lot of cross referals from my clients who find advisory from public policy verticals insufficient or ignorant of the law & its dragnet. Over a period of time, I have come to realize of a definitive demand for people who are adept in both strategy and regulations which requires dual qualifications. Also, the work is pretty interesting and hardly the otherwise dull transaction based undertaking.

6. Pursuant to official ranking released by the government, my law school has consistently ranked amongst the Top 10. (It is a National Law University)

7. In the long run, my goal is to open a boutique firm which provides cross sectional services including both, intensive public policy consulting as well as handling of compliance and clinical litigation.
In India, currently law firms handle compliance; consulting firms deal with advisory whilst litigation is dealt with qualified advocates leaving potential clients to run from pillar to post for a lot of things!

8. The reason for choosing an MBA rather than a public policy course is that at most schools the same caters towards the third sector and IGO'S whilst I have a background of professional association with corporations, mostly that is.

I would value your advice towards preparing an application for the Top 5 schools. If you have any recommendations for some specific schools, I remain eager to hear about them!


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Hi lawyerprofile,

Thank you for all of this follow-up information. Here are my follow-up thoughts:

PAST EXPERIENCE

Given what you've described, I would encourage you to highlight what it's been like to build your own office, practice, and staff (in multiple cities it seems), presumably manage the operation, strategize and oversee its growth, develop new business and client relationships, and serve those clients. In short, while the fact that you are a high-performing lawyer can and should come across in your applications, you do not want to "bury" the admissions committee in legalese and legal work. Viewed through a business lens, you are also an entrepreneur, a team and business builder, a people manager, and someone who has deep experience sourcing, understanding, and working with clients. Unpack those experiences. Discuss numbers, growth, revenue, impact, etc. Discuss how you've grown, advanced, failed, learned, etc. along the way. (Certainly bend your resume and interview responses in the aforementioned directions, but also consider which essays lend themselves to certain of these focus areas as well. Where exactly that manifests will vary from school to school depending on their essay questions.)

CAREER GOALS

Regarding your goals, I would point back to what I noted in my previous response. What you've shared in your follow-up message is helpful to know. Just make sure that the "why MBA" and business relevant pieces are properly articulated. This might include strategy, learning how to transform your existing (and highly relevant) client skills from the legal universe to the consulting universe, and so forth. You will need to go even deeper than that in order to convince the admissions committee that your goals are sufficiently business oriented. Based on the follow-up information that you shared, I believe this can be accomplished. You just have to resist the temptation of tipping too deep into policy and legal waters. That can be your area of focus or expertise, but unpack the business and leadership-related knowledge, skills, and experience that you need. Down the road, I like that you've identified a business opportunity in the marketplace. Unpack that, too. How will an MBA and everything that comes along with it help you to build that business in the future. In what ways will you marry up this unique combination of (a) what you've done to this point, (b) the MBA, and (c) your experience in consulting post-MBA. Again, I would be happy to discuss these topics further.

SCHOOLS

As for schools, I believe you would be justified in including some T5 schools in your application strategy. At the same time, you should be sure to study up on the admissions landscape. The Indian male applicant pool is the most crowded and competitive demographic from which to apply, and according to one GMAT Club study, Indian applicants with a 760 GMAT still have only a 16% acceptance rate across the entirety of the U.S. T20. That acceptance rate figure is naturally going to be much, much lower at T5 schools. Against that backdrop, a T5 only strategy is super aggressive for almost anyone. Every applicant has their own threshold in the rankings -- above which they would feel justified in investing time and money into a full-time MBA, and below which they would not. (And sometimes other thresholds that might be scholarship-dependent.) If your goal is top-tier consulting, then there are still schools that run into the T15/16 that can place you at certain top-tier or almost top-tier consulting firms. (Not as well as the T5 or M7, of course, and not always every top firm recruiting heavily at every school, but enough to justify diversifying your strategy beyond exclusively the T5.)

ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS

As previously addressed topics suggest, you are going to have "more to prove" and "more convincing to do" than someone with first-tier business experience -- in part because of the transition that "law to MBA" naturally entails, in part because you've largely worked at your own firm (which can be interesting from an entrepreneurial and learning/growth perspective but lacks the built-in credibility that high performance at a blue-chip firm would), and in part because you are going to need to think critically about who to get recommendations from (and then imbue upon them how thoughtful and specific a modern-day MBA recommendation needs to be -- and what kind of stuff they should highlight in it -- when they are presumably going to come from the legal world). I would be happy to further the conversation, discuss schools more specifically, and elaborate on how I would approach the topics above via a Free Consultation. Please feel free to sign up for a call at your convenience: https://www.avantiprep.com/free-consultation.html. (You can include the link to this post in the signup form so that I know it's you.)

Best Regards,
Greg
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