It is currently 16 Oct 2017, 17:49

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Close

Request Expert Reply

Confirm Cancel

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

Pronoun Question

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
Posts: 153

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Location: India
Schools: ISB
Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 06 Jun 2010, 06:32
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

(N/A)

Question Stats:

0% (00:00) correct 0% (00:00) wrong based on 0 sessions

HideShow timer Statistics

Hello,

Can anyone pls advise which of the below mentioned is correct .

1)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that they will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.
2)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that helmetes will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.

It will be helpful if you can explain the ans as well.
_________________

_________________
If you like my post, consider giving me a kudos. THANKS!

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
B
Affiliations: SPG
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 321

Kudos [?]: 866 [0], given: 28

Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 06 Jun 2010, 08:40
RenukaD wrote:
Hello,

Can anyone pls advise which of the below mentioned is correct .

1)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that they will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.
2)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that helmetes will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.

It will be helpful if you can explain the ans as well.


I think both sentences are correct. I think you're wondering why 1 is correct

The players' helmets need to be repaired so that they will be ready
they refer to helmets ... player's act as adjective here, not noun

RULE: possessive pronoun can refer back to possessive noun
player's helmet is not possessive

_________________

press kudos, if you like the explanation, appreciate the effort or encourage people to respond.

Download the Ultimate SC Flashcards

Kudos [?]: 866 [0], given: 28

Director
Director
avatar
Status: Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. It's a dare. Impossible is nothing.
Affiliations: University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 958

Kudos [?]: 902 [0], given: 36

Location: Singapore
Concentration: General Management, Finance
Schools: Chicago Booth - Class of 2015
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 06 Jun 2010, 14:21
I will rather prefer the second one - for the sake of clarity.

Kudos [?]: 902 [0], given: 36

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
Posts: 153

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Location: India
Schools: ISB
Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Jun 2010, 10:23
dimitri92 wrote:
RenukaD wrote:
Hello,

Can anyone pls advise which of the below mentioned is correct .

1)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that they will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.
2)The players' helmets need to be repaired so that helmetes will be ready to be used at practice on Sunday.

It will be helpful if you can explain the ans as well.


I think both sentences are correct. I think you're wondering why 1 is correct

The players' helmets need to be repaired so that they will be ready
they refer to helmets ... player's act as adjective here, not noun

RULE: possessive pronoun can refer back to possessive noun
player's helmet is not possessive



Thanks for the explanation. Was just curious to know one more thing, in case both the options are present in answer choices then, which one should we choose
_________________

_________________
If you like my post, consider giving me a kudos. THANKS!

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 06 Jun 2010
Posts: 4

Kudos [?]: 1 [0], given: 0

Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Jun 2010, 14:33
the 1st one is the correct answer.

in case you wonder why not the second one--because the 2nd is avoidable and redundant construction--the helmet needn't be used again as the sentence specifies that the readiness of helmets is of consequence. Players cannot be used once ready.
infact,2nd is a wrong sentence construction.

hope this helps !!

Kudos [?]: 1 [0], given: 0

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 30 Mar 2010
Posts: 75

Kudos [?]: 26 [0], given: 3

Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Jun 2010, 18:27
I think the first option is better based on the principle of concision. According to MGMAT, they cannot refer to the players because of the mentioned possessive poison rule.

Kudos [?]: 26 [0], given: 3

Director
Director
avatar
Status: Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. It's a dare. Impossible is nothing.
Affiliations: University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 958

Kudos [?]: 902 [0], given: 36

Location: Singapore
Concentration: General Management, Finance
Schools: Chicago Booth - Class of 2015
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Jun 2010, 20:38
There are 2 nouns before they -

possessive noun - players' (plural)
simple noun - helmets (plural)

they is ambiguous. Its better to avoid such constructions.

warya75 wrote:
the 1st one is the correct answer.

in case you wonder why not the second one--because the 2nd is avoidable and redundant construction--the helmet needn't be used again as the sentence specifies that the readiness of helmets is of consequence. Players cannot be used once ready.
infact,2nd is a wrong sentence construction.

hope this helps !!

Last edited by nusmavrik on 07 Jun 2010, 20:52, edited 1 time in total.

Kudos [?]: 902 [0], given: 36

2 KUDOS received
Director
Director
avatar
Status: Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. It's a dare. Impossible is nothing.
Affiliations: University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 958

Kudos [?]: 902 [2], given: 36

Location: Singapore
Concentration: General Management, Finance
Schools: Chicago Booth - Class of 2015
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Jun 2010, 20:49
2
This post received
KUDOS
izaidi wrote:
I think the first option is better based on the principle of concision. According to MGMAT, they cannot refer to the players because of the mentioned possessive poison rule.


This post is interesting. Thought of sharing some rules :

Rule 1
Possessive pronoun can refer to noun e.g. the governor dissolved HER team

HER = possessive pronoun

her refers to governor (noun)


Rule 2

possessive pronoun can refer to possessive noun

Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls HIM a pig

HIS = possessive pronoun : can refer to Jose's

Rule 3
object pronoun and subject pronoun can not refer to possessive noun

Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls HIM a pig

HIM = object pronoun: cannot refer to Jose's

Jose's room is so messy that HE mother calls HIM a pig

HE = subject pronoun: cannot refer to Jose's


CORRECT : Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls JOSE a pig

Kudos [?]: 902 [2], given: 36

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
Posts: 64

Kudos [?]: 3 [0], given: 3

Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 08 Jun 2010, 03:58
I think 1st one is incorrect as MGMAT also says that" They", "Them" can refer only to person not to object and in this case helmets are the subject so use of "they" is not right.

Kudos [?]: 3 [0], given: 3

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
Posts: 153

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Location: India
Schools: ISB
Re: Pronoun Question [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 08 Jun 2010, 10:01
nusmavrik wrote:
izaidi wrote:
I think the first option is better based on the principle of concision. According to MGMAT, they cannot refer to the players because of the mentioned possessive poison rule.


This post is interesting. Thought of sharing some rules :

Rule 1
Possessive pronoun can refer to noun e.g. the governor dissolved HER team

HER = possessive pronoun

her refers to governor (noun)


Rule 2

possessive pronoun can refer to possessive noun

Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls HIM a pig

HIS = possessive pronoun : can refer to Jose's

Rule 3
object pronoun and subject pronoun can not refer to possessive noun

Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls HIM a pig

HIM = object pronoun: cannot refer to Jose's

Jose's room is so messy that HE mother calls HIM a pig

HE = subject pronoun: cannot refer to Jose's


CORRECT : Jose's room is so messy that HIS mother calls JOSE a pig



Thanks nusmavrik for your input .... + 1kudos
_________________

_________________
If you like my post, consider giving me a kudos. THANKS!

Kudos [?]: 70 [0], given: 14

Re: Pronoun Question   [#permalink] 08 Jun 2010, 10:01
Display posts from previous: Sort by

Pronoun Question

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.