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learner wrote:
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these - diagonse and deciding not ||

(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - which is a wrong modifier for 'expert does'
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - deciding and diagnosing are ||

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized - diagnosis not || to decision


(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like - diagnose not || to deciding



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like is used to compare nouns . ex: Joe is like JOhn
as is used to compare verbs . ex: Joe writes as John does.


well, I m confused here
we are comparing computer's reasoning to that of an expert's. So as should come here
if there has been a comparison between computers and experts then like would have been correct.
Hence I mark A as an answer

any comments ??

pls explain in detail, the usage of as and like with examples. Its confusing. Although I know the above mentioned rule, but i get confused while doing SC.


I thought abt it..but Unable to explain...It will be good if some expert can shed light on it...

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New post 30 Aug 2010, 01:44
The reason why A is wrong is not becoz it uses as.Infact as is perfectly okay. computers reason... as experts do ( there is a verb here).

If there were Computers reason.... as an expert, (then it is incorrect)


The main issue here is parallelism.

Hopefully this might of some help :-D

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C--
correctly use like to compare

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Isn't "like" in option "C", "D", "E" incorrect because whenever we compare actions ('reason' in this case) we have to use "as" and not like. Can anyone pls help on this ? Thanks.

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New post 27 May 2011, 11:52
This question appears in the OG VR 2nd Ed.
OA is C

OE is "The sentence presents three functions of intelligent computers,(to diagnose .. deciding .... or other purposes) but they are not written in parallel form. The final function is vague, so turning this into an introductory clause (used for such purposes as ...) and using parallel forms (daignosing/deciding) makes a better sentence.

It clearly mentions, either "as an expert does" or "like an expert" have been used correctly and idiomatically in the choices. .

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New post 27 May 2011, 11:54
This question appears in the OG VR 2nd Ed.
OA is C

OE is "The sentence presents three functions of intelligent computers,(to diagnose .. deciding .... or other purposes) but they are not written in parallel form. The final function is vague, so turning this into an introductory clause (used for such purposes as ...) and using parallel forms (diagnosing/deciding) makes a better sentence.

It clearly mentions, either "as an expert does" or "like an expert" have been used correctly and idiomatically in the choices. .

So dont fret :shock:

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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can
understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an
expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns,
deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
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(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like


+1 C

When we use whether we have 2 choices yes or no, therefore to add "or not" becomes wordy. We must use like in this example as we are comparing "like a expert".
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Isn't "like" in option "C", "D", "E" incorrect because whenever we compare actions ('reason' in this case) we have to use "as" and not like. Can anyone pls help on this ? Thanks.


I think "like" is comparing artificial intelligence to expert.

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Whether or not is always wrong in GMAT eliminate D and E

Computers will understand English , recognize objects and reason as an expert does .
Eliminate B “which” is used incorrectly.

But I cannot decide whether to choose A or C , although the correct answer is C.
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Answering a PM on this one :).

This question has not been correctly transcribed from the original. Notice the end has only been included in (A) and (E) ('or other purposes such as these', 'or the like.'). Therefore, it is hard to really say what the best approach to the question is, because perhaps there is a clear 2:3 split at the end of the sentence.

That said let's take a look at (A) and (C) to see which is better.

In (A), it implies that in diagnosing equipment breakdowns, a computer will be able to 'decide whether to authorize a loan'. These are two separate activities and must therefore be separated by an 'or', the way that (C) does.

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learner wrote:
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as
these - diagonse and deciding not ||

(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - which is a wrong modifier for 'expert does'
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - deciding and diagnosing are ||

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized - diagnosis not || to decision


(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like - diagnose not || to deciding



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like is used to compare nouns . ex: Joe is like JOhn
as is used to compare verbs . ex: Joe writes as John does.


I was confused to choose between B and C. I knew "which" in answer choice B did not have clear referent, but I could not choose C because of "like an expert". Manhattan explains that "like" is used only to compare nouns. but in this case we compare verbs, right? computers reason as experts reason. even in the examples you wrote, "Joe writes as John does", here we compare Joe's writing to John's writing - thus, two verbs are compared. in this question "computers reason as experts reason [or, as experts do]". thus, we are comparing two verbs, meaning we need to use "as" word rather than "like".

can you please explain further?


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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like

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Don't understand why "B" is not the correct answer. "Like" is supposed to compare nouns. Here we are comparing the intelligence of computers to intelligence of experts. So shouldn't this be "as an expert" rather than "like an expert"

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Hi Infotalk,
For choice B, "which" modifies "an expert". This makes ["an expert" may be used for purposes such as .....]
It does not make intended meaning.
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Hi Infotalk,
For choice B, "which" modifies "an expert". This makes ["an expert" may be used for purposes such as .....]
It does not make intended meaning.
Hope this helps.


Thanks. I understand it now. I watched a bunch of modifier content yesterday and I am getting these modifiers a little better.

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Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like



Let me try this one.
(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these -
he we are comparing the computers with experts not what they did. So comparison should be with "like"
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - Same like Option A
(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan - Good option
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized - "like" cannot introduces examples. Only "Such as" can introduces examples.
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like[/quote] - Changes the orginal meaning of the sentence

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(A) as an expert does—computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these ---First indication is the faulty parallelism. --- To diagnose, an infinitive, and deciding, a simple gerund and or other purposes, a noun --- three different forms in a single list. Secondly the wrong comparison of computers to what an expert does


(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan ---- 1. What is the specific antecedent of ‘which’? Is it referring to artificial intelligence or computers. Obviously not to experts or to proponents, since we don’t refer human beings by ‘which’. 2. The comparison issue as in A.


(C) like an expert—computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan – The parallelism is set in place smugly by using two gerunds such diagnosing and deciding. The comparison is also correct in comparing the computers to an expert. Correct choice.

(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be authorized --- 'The use of which' is a problem as in B. 2.'Like' to denote example is another issue.

(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like -- 1. Parallelism: 1. to diagnose 2. deciding or 3. the like – not parallel. 2. It is not clear what the term ‘to be used’ refers to an expert or to computers or to intelligence
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There are two things about this problem that have always interested me:

1) The split between "like" and "as" is a fakeout! We don't need to decide that to get the problem right, and in fact either one could work! You can reason "like an expert" or "as an expert does." What's really at issue is how we follow up on this comparison. In B, D, and E, we are using the expert, when it seems we should be using the computer. That leaves us with just two choices!

2) The other interesting bit is how the dash is used here. For some reason, the Verbal Review book seems to feature the dash more prominently than the main OG, and it's put to interesting use. The dash--not a hyphen, but a long dash--is often used as a parenthetical, as in this sentence you're reading. :) However, it can also be used to indicate a break in the sentence that increases clarity. In the case of this problem, we need to make it clear that we're talking about computers, not experts, so we use a dash to break in and reintroduce the subject again. If you're not sure why we're doing that, take a look at how we'd have to write C without the dash:

Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason like an expert and that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan.

Technically, we could say that we had done our job. We have parallel clauses: "that can understand . . . " and "that will be used." However, there's so much complexity in between that it becomes very hard to understand what we're trying to say. If we think of good grammar as a form of good manners, the dash is our way of leading the reader politely to our intended meaning.
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