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# Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The Messenger were two

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19 Mar 2015, 11:57
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590. Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger.

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.

Why do we have pronoun ambiguity in B and D, with respect to 'who'?

Normally we know that relative pronouns refer to the immediate noun before them. Hence, in B and D we can think that 'who' refers to the closest noun, A. Philip Randolph.
Since after 'who' in both sentences we have 'his reputation', we know that the 'who' only refers to one of the guys.
If we wanted to include both guys, then we would use '... their reputation as ....'
If we wanted to modify Chandler Owen and not the A. Philip Randolph, then we would place Owen after Randolph, so that the 'who' pronoun would have modified 'Owen'.

I do not see any reason that why this relative clause with who is ambiguous in B and D?
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Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.... [color=#ed1c24]Modifier Error as no Noun follows the comma after the phrase "Published after Harlem".[/color]

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger....[color=#ed1c24] Same as in A.[/color]

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen... [color=#ed1c24]Although an awkward construction, the sentence correctly places the Noun "The Messenger" after the Opening Modifier "Published in Harlem", Further the Non Essential Modifier "who would...labor leader" correctly modifies A. Philip Randolph.
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(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.... Who a singular pronoun can't refer back to " Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph" as this sentence implies. Therefore "Who" has got no antecedent.

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.... This sentence has Multiple problems, as mentioned in C, "who" can't refer back to the plural "Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph". Further, the clause ", the messenger was published in Harlem" is joined with the rest of the sentence with a comma, resulting in a Run on Sentence.

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Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.
...> 'published in Harlem' modify 'the owner and editor' which is wrong...here, ' the owner and editor' are just one person, we don't know who is that one guy! also there is a pronoun ambiguity in this sentence. here 'his' is used for two person.
(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger.
...>'published in Harlem' modify 'the owner and editor' which is wrong...pronoun (his) is used for two persons... ' the owner and editor' are just one person, we don't know who is that one guy!
(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.
...>match everything perfectly.
(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.
...>pronoun (his) is used for two persons......the distance between 'the messenger' and published in Harlem is far away.
(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.
'being' is red flag in GMAT,....pronoun (his) is used for two persons...,' the owner and editor' are just one person, we don't know who is that one guy!
Did i make any mistake, expert ? please help me if i make any mistake in my explanation.
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29 Sep 2016, 11:30
I chose C too cuz it looked best among others, but isn't C in passive voice and we are asked to ignore/avoid Passive voices in GMAT?
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I chose C too cuz it looked best among others, but isn't C in passive voice and we are asked to ignore/avoid Passive voices in GMAT?

This is not the actual case here. It depends on the situation. If a sentence use active voice and passive voice simultaneously then it, sometimes, is cross out not every times.

https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 98-30.html
here, there is a discussion about active voice and passive voice by Ron. Please see the last two posts of this thread. Thanks...
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29 Sep 2016, 23:11
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There's no rule that we should avoid the passive voice. Our informal research suggests that passive voice is correct about 50% of the time that it appears in SC. In other words, it's not any more or less likely to be correct than the active voice!

What we want to avoid is the use of passive voice when active makes more sense. There's certainly no reason to say something like "Tacos are preferred by me," but there are many cases in which the passive voice is the only correct way to express a certain idea. Sometimes we don't even know who did the action (as in "My car was stolen"), making active voice impossible.

Check out this example of a sentence in which parallelism is maintained despite a shift from active to passive voice: dressed-as-a-man-and-using-the-name-robert-shurtleff-37264.html
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590. Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger.

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.

A "Published in Harlem" incorrectly modifies two individuals.
B "Published in Harlem" incorrectly modifies two individuals.
C Correct.
D "Published in Harlem" should be closer to "The Messenger."
E "Being two young journalists" is incorrect here because of redundancy.
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Could anybody please explain to me the verb tense (would make)? When I first saw it I though it has error since we have three usages of would verb
conditional or past of will or repetition in the past
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Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader. -- modifier issue --- “published in Harlem” incorrectly modifies “the owner and editor”.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger. -- modifier issue --“published in Harlem” incorrectly modifies two young journalists

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen. -- Correct

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem. --The verbs are not properly connected in this choice. The list of the verbs per this choice becomes: owned and edited and published. This is incorrect. Grammatically, we need to use “and” only before the last entity in the list ; also Chandler Owen and A.Philip Randolph is a compound subject --> it is not correct to use who

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem. -- usage of being ; The focus of this choice is to provide the information that The Messenger was published in Harlem. However, the original sentence focuses on the information that The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists. So, there is a shift in the meaning ; also Chandler Owen and A.Philip Randolph is a compound subject --> it is not correct to use who

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Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger.

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen. --> correct

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.
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