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# QOTD: Since 1986 when the Department of Labor

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04 Nov 2017, 05:41
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GMATNinja wrote:
This one isn't quite as ugly as the QOTD on crickets, but there's a nice bit of "next-level" pronoun stuff going on here.

And for those of you who missed it, we also covered this question in our live YouTube session this past Monday. The video is available here.

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(A) investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began

OK, so here's another little nuance that the GMAT seems to like: subject pronouns ("they", in this case) can't refer back to possessive nouns. This rule seems a little bit silly to me, but I can't find any official GMAT questions that violate this rule.

So in this particular question, "they" must refer back to... "fees", I guess, since it can't refer to the possessive "investment officers'"? And "fees" would make no sense.

Also, "since 1986" requires us to use the present perfect tense "have begun," not the past tense "began." Eliminate (A).

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(B) investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Same exact errors as (A). So (B) is gone, too.

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(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun

I'm really not crazy about the phrase "began to allow that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform..." Really, "allow that fees... be based..."?? That's a mess. If you wanted to be conservative, you could hang onto this one. But as we'll see in a moment, (D) is a better option.

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(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun

Sure, this looks better: "allow fees... to be based." Much cleaner than the same part of (C). So we can keep (D).

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(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Same pair of errors as in (A) and (B). (E) is gone, and (D) is the correct answer.

Hi GmatNinja,
Can u kindly tell me the error in option C. I find both C and D to be equally good. Is the use of subjunctive in option C wrong? If so, how is it wrong?
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11 Nov 2017, 11:23
It is worth noting the tense difference between "have begun" and "begun" and how this relates to the meaning of the passage?
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11 Nov 2017, 11:38
"have begun" indicates the trend is still followed.
for option C, use of 'that' after the infinitive is incorrect; the later part of the underlined sentence is unnecessarily wordy.
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11 Nov 2017, 12:27
Hi, can anyone explain the issue with option C. Both C and D look good to me.
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16 Jul 2018, 20:27
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I struggled with "since" usage. Found a good source for understanding various usages and tense behaviors from the following source:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... v299.shtml
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19 Jul 2018, 20:17
(A) investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Here is my POE

"they" is interesting. It should refer to investment officers

From this point, I can eliminate A,B, and E.

only C and D left. In this case, I think D is more precise, and C is wordy.
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31 Jul 2018, 11:32
Since 19XX ......., We need present perfect for verb tense.

C and D are left out.

Allow something to ... - Perfect.
or Allow that something be... - passive awkward. unidiomatic

D is right.
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