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18 Jun 2018, 22:54
Hello everyone,
So I just completed the basics concepts of quant from Princeton. There are two areas where I need your able suggestions.

1. As I was practicing, I did make error logs. As I was solving the questions I realized that some questions required a more flexible approach. That is the area where I lag. I want to know how others remember the various ways to solve a particular problem under time constraints? Do we have to be familiar with associated method of solving a problem beforehand the GMAT exam? How others remember what they did in a particular question during practice? I hope I'm making sense here.

2. Now that I've completed the basics, what other sure shot materials can I use for Q50/51? Also, kindly let me know if there are free resources with great questions for a Q50/51.

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18 Jun 2018, 23:41
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I would say keep practicing with gmatclub posted questions.

Analyze the solutions of question, there you will come across many different approaches for solving problem.

Keep doing that,you will see you will surely keep on improving.

Practice is key.

Give kudos if it helps

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19 Jun 2018, 00:10
push12345 wrote:
I would say keep practicing with gmatclub posted questions.

Analyze the solutions of question, there you will come across many different approaches for solving problem.

Keep doing that,you will see you will surely keep on improving.

Practice is key.

Give kudos if it helps

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Thanks! does the gmatclub questions refer to the question banks and new posts?
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19 Jun 2018, 00:13
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They are from variety of sources.

U can follow guys like Bunuel,chetan2u and others veritasprepkarishma,GMATNinja,gmatninja2 who have expertise in quant.

Also subscribe to forums of quant.

U will get questions daily to solve covering variety if topics.

Give kudos if it helps

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19 Jun 2018, 00:38
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Hey animag1394

Welcome to GMATClub.

Can you elaborate the difference between the flexible approach and the associated method
of solving the problem by means of an example? Since you have not written about taking a
test post doing the basics, I'm assuming you haven't taken one. Take a sectional Quant test
to understand where you stand regarding your preparation. These are some links that might

You might want to look at the 5th link which you should read to improve your score to Q50.

2. ALL YOU NEED FOR QUANT ! ! !
3. PS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
4. DS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
5. Q44 -> Q50
6. Timing strategies

The third and fourth links are for practice only.

Hope this helps you!
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19 Jun 2018, 00:44
push12345 wrote:
They are from variety of sources.

U can follow guys like Bunuel,chetan2u and others veritasprepkarishma,GMATNinja,gmatninja2 who have expertise in quant.

Also subscribe to forums of quant.

U will get questions daily to solve covering variety if topics.

Give kudos if it helps

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Hey animag1394 ,

For more details on how to follow experts and how to subscribe to the forum, check out this post: https://gmatclub.com/forum/abhimahna-s- ... 57054.html

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19 Jun 2018, 01:33
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Hey animag1394

Welcome to GMATClub.

Can you elaborate the difference between the flexible approach and the associated method
of solving the problem by means of an example?

You might want to look at the 5th link which you should read to improve your score to Q50.

2. ALL YOU NEED FOR QUANT ! ! !
3. PS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
4. DS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
5. Q44 -> Q50
6. Timing strategies

The third and fourth links are for practice only.

Hope this helps you!

Thank you for the links you provided.
Actually, sometimes I feel "So okay I have made an error log but still will I remember the approach when required?" Some questions are like "Oh! this is an amazing way to solve this question" when I see the solution. "Will I become this flexible to take any problem head on??" I just want to know if others also think so while preparation and how to cope up with such concerns? Hope I'm making sense

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19 Jun 2018, 08:34
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animag1394 wrote:
pushpitkc wrote:
Hey animag1394

Welcome to GMATClub.

Can you elaborate the difference between the flexible approach and the associated method
of solving the problem by means of an example?

You might want to look at the 5th link which you should read to improve your score to Q50.

2. ALL YOU NEED FOR QUANT ! ! !
3. PS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
4. DS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
5. Q44 -> Q50
6. Timing strategies

The third and fourth links are for practice only.

Hope this helps you!

Thank you for the links you provided.
Actually, sometimes I feel "So okay I have made an error log but still will I remember the approach when required?" Some questions are like "Oh! this is an amazing way to solve this question" when I see the solution. "Will I become this flexible to take any problem head on??" I just want to know if others also think so while preparation and how to cope up with such concerns? Hope I'm making sense

These are normal concerns when you begin your preparation

Every time you are not able to solve a question go through the thread(where the question
has been discussed) and go through the various methods that have been used to solve the
problems. In my experience, you will come across a few methods that will help you save
some time. Try and adapt these methods while you solve questions during practice. This
way, you will grow in confidence and be able to take any problem head-on.

Hope this helps you!
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19 Jun 2018, 10:46
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animag1394 wrote:
Thank you for the links you provided.
Actually, sometimes I feel "So okay I have made an error log but still will I remember the approach when required?" Some questions are like "Oh! this is an amazing way to solve this question" when I see the solution. "Will I become this flexible to take any problem head on??" I just want to know if others also think so while preparation and how to cope up with such concerns? Hope I'm making sense

Most test takers won't see the "perfect" solution in most cases where there are multiple ways to tackle the question, and that's okay. Keep doing what you're doing, and you'll find that finding an approach into a question will become easier. Whether that approach is the very best one possible or just about good enough is not something you should really worry about.
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19 Jun 2018, 12:06
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Hi animag1394,

Welcome to GMATclub!

Practice makes perfect, so keep practicing. When you'll start working on official question from OG or gmatprep, visit the corresponding thread on GMATclub. You'll see different solutions from different users, and learn the different ways to solve the same question/topic.

Also, consider getting gmatclub tests. You can buy or get them for free if you contribute to this forum:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/kudos-points ... 79704.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/rewards-dash ... ge=rewards

Hope this helps!
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19 Jun 2018, 19:49
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Hi animag1394,

It's been about 4 weeks since your original post. Have you taken any new practice CATs since then (and if so, then how did you score?)?

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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19 Jun 2018, 22:18
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi animag1394,

It's been about 4 weeks since your original post. Have you taken any new practice CATs since then (and if so, then how did you score?)?

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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I have been focusing on quant since my last post and I have completed all basics of quant since then. No sir, I havent given any new test as of now, I just wanted first to cover all basics of quant. In verbal I have completed SC and CR from OG. I have also started studying Manhattan SC since it has a good coverage of SC concepts. So, now i will be giving the test within 2-3 days.
Also, I want to apply in R2 which starts in Jan,2019. I'm planning for ISB.

You asked to do the GMAC CATs in the last post. Actually, I have some TPR mock tests. Should I finish off with them first?
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20 Jun 2018, 20:41
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Hi animag1394,

The scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize. Since that algorithm is proprietary, no GMAT company has an exact match for it, thus CAT scores can vary a bit based on the 'biases' involved in their respective designs. Since you do not appear to have taken any of the Official practice CATs yet, I suggest that you take one of those next - and make sure to take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss the results.

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20 Jun 2018, 23:29
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi animag1394,

The scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize. Since that algorithm is proprietary, no GMAT company has an exact match for it, thus CAT scores can vary a bit based on the 'biases' involved in their respective designs. Since you do not appear to have taken any of the Official practice CATs yet, I suggest that you take one of those next - and make sure to take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss the results.

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Hi,
Yes that completely makes sense. Will get back with the scores.
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24 Jun 2018, 09:45
animag1394 wrote:
Hello everyone,
So I just completed the basics concepts of quant from Princeton. There are two areas where I need your able suggestions.

1. As I was practicing, I did make error logs. As I was solving the questions I realized that some questions required a more flexible approach. That is the area where I lag. I want to know how others remember the various ways to solve a particular problem under time constraints? Do we have to be familiar with associated method of solving a problem beforehand the GMAT exam? How others remember what they did in a particular question during practice? I hope I'm making sense here.

2. Now that I've completed the basics, what other sure shot materials can I use for Q50/51? Also, kindly let me know if there are free resources with great questions for a Q50/51.

Best Quant Material for Practice

The Official Guide for GMAT 2015-18
The Official Guide for GMAT Quantitative Review 2015-18
GMAT Club Forum
GMAT Club Tests
Manhattan Quant practice questions

Good Luck
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Updated on: 27 Jun 2018, 10:21
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi animag1394,

The scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize. Since that algorithm is proprietary, no GMAT company has an exact match for it, thus CAT scores can vary a bit based on the 'biases' involved in their respective designs. Since you do not appear to have taken any of the Official practice CATs yet, I suggest that you take one of those next - and make sure to take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss the results.

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Hi there ,
Took the test, scored 610 (Q 40 V 36). Not quite happy with the results as I had worked much harder. How should I go about now?

Originally posted by animag1394 on 27 Jun 2018, 06:34.
Last edited by animag1394 on 27 Jun 2018, 10:21, edited 1 time in total.
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27 Jun 2018, 10:20
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Hi animag1394,

In my last post, I recommended that you take one of the OFFICIAL GMAC CATs (since those are the most realistic CATs on the market). With a '3rd party' CAT, there might be some biases in the score results, but assuming that you took this CAT in a realistic fashion, then we'll assume that the results are reasonably close to your current 'ability level.' GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Considering these 2 CAT Scores, we can reasonably assume that your level is in the mid-400s.

Thankfully, you still have plenty of time before the Round 2 application deadlines. Given the type of Score that you would probably need to apply to ISB, you're going to have to make some significant changes to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. You would likely find it beneficial to invest in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led), so you should plan to look into the available options.

"Review" is an exceptionally important part of the GMAT training process; your ability to define WHY you're getting questions wrong is essential to defining the areas that you need to work on (and the specific things that you need to 'fix '). As such, I'd like to know a bit more about this last CAT. While a full Mistake Tracker would provide a lot more information, there are some basic questions that you should be able to answer (and the more EXACT you can be with your answers, the better):

After reviewing each section of this recent CAT, how many questions did you get wrong....
1) Because of a silly/little mistake?
2) Because there was some math/verbal that you just could not remember how to do?
3) Because the question was too hard?
4) Because you were low on time and had to guess?
5) How many Verbal questions did you 'narrow down to 2 choices' but still get wrong?

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13 Jul 2018, 00:05
Hi animag1394,

It sounds like you need a strategic approach to GMAT Math.​ If you are familiar with math basics and want to sharpen basics, use the error logs and refer to them anytime. There are also many free resources in GMAT Club so you can further strengthen your basics through these resources by comparing with what you have already learned.

In fact, GMAT is a logic test, not a general math test. That is, you need to learn the logic to tackle GMAT questions.
You can still solve GMAT questions with the conventional method.
If you aim to hit a high score ​(Q49-51) on ​quant, the conventional method is time-consuming and tends to be inefficient. You may hit Q45 or above with the conventional way, but it is difficult or takes very long to study until you hit Q49-51.

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