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# Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions

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Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see them as they were during the formation of the universe.

(A) we see them as they were during

(B) we see them as they had been during

(C) we see them as if during

(D) they appear to us as they did in

(E) they appear to us as though in

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12 Mar 2006, 09:49
OA is not D. Try again

D makes it sound as if the speaker was there during the formation of the universe.
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12 Mar 2006, 11:16
I think past perfect is correct tense here. so its B.

gmat_crack wrote:
IMO its D.

aikido_fudoshin wrote:
Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see them as they were during the formation of the universe.

(A) we see them as they were during
during is not correctly used here. Phrase "were during" is not correct here.

(B) we see them as they had been during

Wrong tense.

(C) we see them as if during

as if, is wrong here.

(D) they appear to us as they did in

Correct
(E) they appear to us as though in

"as though in" is wrong here
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12 Mar 2006, 13:44
aikido_fudoshin wrote:
OA is not D. Try again

D makes it sound as if the speaker was there during the formation of the universe.

Then I choose ^ B ^

You are right. Past perfect would do better here.
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12 Mar 2006, 16:09
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I am for A.
(A) we see them as they were during
Correct
(B) we see them as they had been during
(C) we see them as if during
during is wrong
(D) they appear to us as they did in
Does not convey the correct meaning.
(E) they appear to us as though in
"though in" does not convey correct meaning.
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13 Mar 2006, 00:34
its B AS IT CORRECTLY SAYS how it compares the present to the past and continuing action in the correct tense
D says the person was theer at the time of the formation of the universe.

Can someone explain the difference between see and appear?
a)How do i look?
b) how do i appear?
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13 Mar 2006, 08:18
i THINK a is correct

Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see them as they were during the formation of the universe.

(A) we see them as they were during

(B) we see them as they had been during IMPROPER HAD BEEN USE

(C) we see them as if during NOPS!

(D) they appear to us as they did in I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED DURING INSTEAD OF IN

(E) they appear to us as though in THOUGH IMPROPERLY USED
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13 Mar 2006, 08:22
are -- present
has taken -- present perfect
were -- past

seems correct to me in "A"
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aikido_fudoshin wrote:
Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see them as they were during the formation of the universe.

(A) we see them as they were during

(B) we see them as they had been during

(C) we see them as if during

(D) they appear to us as they did in

(E) they appear to us as though in

A.

we see them as they were during... kinda wierd but nothing really wrong.

B: past perfect not needed here. Only describing ONE past action

C: we see them as if during WRONG
D and E: wordy
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07 Nov 2010, 06:14
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I dont catch whats wrong with D.
Could anybody further elaborate?
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Good job working through the tricky verb tenses here! Those who have said that the past perfect is not necessary are correct. Remember, we use the past perfect when talking about multiple past events in order to indicate distant (past perfect) vs. recent past.

In this sentence, we have a present event and a past event, so we use the simple present and past tenses: "we see them (now, in the present) as they were (in the past) during the formation of the universe."

Answer choice D has a little logical glitch. It sounds as though we're saying, "they appear to us now as they appeared to us in the formation of the universe." We certainly weren't around to see what they looked like way back then! Additionally, I don't like "IN the formation of the universe." The formation is a process, not a place, so the construction "DURING the formation" is preferable.
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17 Nov 2010, 13:35
Between A and D, I agree that during is better than in. However, I do not understand how you can interpret that "they appear to us as they did in" is equivalent to "they appear to us as they appeared to us in". For me, it is actually equivalent to "they appear to us as they appeared in" (I subsitute did for appeared: one verb in past tense for another one).

If the answer were "they appear to us as they did during", I would have had many more problems to choose.

JenRugani wrote:
Good job working through the tricky verb tenses here! Those who have said that the past perfect is not necessary are correct. Remember, we use the past perfect when talking about multiple past events in order to indicate distant (past perfect) vs. recent past.

In this sentence, we have a present event and a past event, so we use the simple present and past tenses: "we see them (now, in the present) as they were (in the past) during the formation of the universe."

Answer choice D has a little logical glitch. It sounds as though we're saying, "they appear to us now as they appeared to us in the formation of the universe." We certainly weren't around to see what they looked like way back then! Additionally, I don't like "IN the formation of the universe." The formation is a process, not a place, so the construction "DURING the formation" is preferable.

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02 Feb 2013, 08:04

B. There is no need for Past Perfect because we don't have multiple past events
C. as if during is impossible because we weren't there during the formation of the universe
D and E are wrong because "they appear" as them being active doer is not as good as "we see" the quasars...
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02 Feb 2013, 16:25
why is there no pronoun ambiguity here ? They can refer to both lights and quasars right?
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06 Feb 2013, 09:23
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why is there no pronoun ambiguity here ? They can refer to both lights and quasars right?

pronoun after a semicolon refers to the first noun in the sentence,which is Quasars here.
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06 Nov 2013, 22:53
Hello:

I'm really confused with this one! I think that this one shouldn't be that hard! But could't understand a couple of things from the meaning stand of view.

180. Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently,
we see them as they were during the formation of the universe.

(A) we see them as they were during
(B) we see them as they had been during
(C) we see them as if during
(D) they appear to us as they did in
(E) they appear to us as though in

OA A.

My questions on the OA

Selected E, because we weren't at the formation of the universe? I'm confused here, how can we assure that "we see them as they were during the formation of the universe" Who was there to prove it? Just don't completely get it.

"as though in" in E signals an hypothetical situation, which I sort of think could be in this case, because we weren't at the formation of the universe.
What am I missing here?
What's wrong with my rationale in this problem?

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11 Feb 2018, 17:15
GMATNinja, Could you help to explain why D wrong?
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13 Feb 2018, 08:01
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GMATNinja, Could you help to explain why D wrong?

Wrong meaning: In the part "as they did", the verb "did" is used to replace the already used verb "appear" (to avoid repition) - thus the meaning implied is that the way Quasers appear to us now is the same as they appeared to us when the Universe was formed. But, when the Universe was formed, we did not exist. Hence the sentence conveys an absurd meaning.
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