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Hi this one is from Knewton

Like many other philosophers from the early 20th century who wrote books and articles about divisive political issues, the French philosopher Paul Ricoeur, regarded as one of the great intellectual peacemakers, also wrote controversial political works, and they were as penetrating as those of his colleagues but were less damaging to his reputation.

A and they were as penetrating as those of his colleagues but were
B and these works were as penetrating as his colleagues, but being
C and, as penetrating as his colleagues’, but were
D as penetrating as those of his colleagues, however, they were
E as penetrating as his colleagues' however, it was

I have a question regarding the right answer
The "but" is a conjunction that connects two independent clauses (like and) and should be used with a comma (...,but)
Now in this sentence "but" is something else, since there is no comma preceding it and it is not followed by an independent clause, now in which category should i put this particular "but" ???

Can someone explain this to me ?

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New post 29 Sep 2011, 12:54
btween D and A
hmmmmmmmmm. I'll go with A
the only problem with D is the COMMA after 'political works'
about the COMMA uasked before BUT< to me, the sentence is concise and clear no need to be separated by COMMA
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New post 29 Sep 2011, 20:07
The contention is between A and D. D however is a run of sentence

....controversial political works, and as penetrating as those of his colleagues, however, they were less damaging to his reputation=> this usage leads to two independent clauses seperated by a comma -

....controversial political works, and as penetrating as those of his colleagues
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however, they were less damaging to his reputation
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New post 29 Sep 2011, 21:00
was a tough one b/w A and D. Picked A.

'as penetrating as those' seemed like a run-on.
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Picked D :(
Thought "they" might refer to the other writers mentioned before.... did not consider it as a modifier modifying the works.
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Hi this one is from Knewton

Like many other philosophers from the early 20th century who wrote books and articles about divisive political issues, the French philosopher Paul Ricoeur, regarded as one of the great intellectual peacemakers, also wrote controversial political works, and they were as penetrating as those of his colleagues but were less damaging to his reputation.

A and they were as penetrating as those of his colleagues but were
B and these works were as penetrating as his colleagues, but being
C and, as penetrating as his colleagues’, but were
D as penetrating as those of his colleagues, however, they were
E as penetrating as his colleagues' however, it was

I have a question regarding the right answer
The "but" is a conjunction that connects two independent clauses (like and) and should be used with a comma (...,but)
Now in this sentence "but" is something else, since there is no comma preceding it and it is not followed by an independent clause, now in which category should i put this particular "but" ???

Can someone explain this to me ?

thanks


A - "they" and "those" refer to "works" - Correct
B - incorrect comparison - "works" are compared to "colleagues"
C - Awkward
D - run-on
E - run-on
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I have a question about D. Does "as penetrating as those of his colleagues" seem to modify "political works"? I mean can we omit this modifier and a sentence still makes sense? Or in initial sentence "and" is not underlined as shows Crick20002002?
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Konstantin1983 wrote:
I have a question about D. Does "as penetrating as those of his colleagues" seem to modify "political works"? I mean can we omit this modifier and a sentence still makes sense? Or in initial sentence "and" is not underlined as shows Crick20002002?


If we omit the modifier in option D then also the structure is incorrect as the clause beginning with however is an IC.

The French philosopher Paul Ricoeur also wrote controversial political works, as penetrating as those of his colleagues,
however, they were less damaging to his reputation. This clause is an IC

The 2 commas are for the modifier 'as penetrating as'. So the clause beginning with however is not connected at all.
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Konstantin1983 wrote:
I have a question about D. Does "as penetrating as those of his colleagues" seem to modify "political works"? I mean can we omit this modifier and a sentence still makes sense? Or in initial sentence "and" is not underlined as shows Crick20002002?


If we omit the modifier in option D then also the structure is incorrect as the clause beginning with however is an IC.

The French philosopher Paul Ricoeur also wrote controversial political works, as penetrating as those of his colleagues,
however, they were less damaging to his reputation. This clause is an IC

The 2 commas are for the modifier 'as penetrating as'. So the clause beginning with however is not connected at all.

Thanks! Do you mean that semi-colon is needed before "however"? In this case this would be correct?
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Konstantin1983 wrote:
gagan0001 wrote:
Konstantin1983 wrote:
I have a question about D. Does "as penetrating as those of his colleagues" seem to modify "political works"? I mean can we omit this modifier and a sentence still makes sense? Or in initial sentence "and" is not underlined as shows Crick20002002?


If we omit the modifier in option D then also the structure is incorrect as the clause beginning with however is an IC.

The French philosopher Paul Ricoeur also wrote controversial political works, as penetrating as those of his colleagues,
however, they were less damaging to his reputation. This clause is an IC

The 2 commas are for the modifier 'as penetrating as'. So the clause beginning with however is not connected at all.

Thanks! Do you mean that semi-colon is needed before "however"? In this case this would be correct?


Yes, conjunctive adverbs such as however, therefore and in addition often require a semicolon before them since they often start a new independent clause. Thus option D with a semicolon before "however" would be correct.
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right, D cannot be the answer.
The information cannot be placed between 2 commas because the information is important. Also, "however" indicates that the comparison, so only A is correct.
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