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# Question on Background check

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16 Feb 2010, 17:14
I'm applying to business schools and I have a question about the background check process... I got a ticket in college for having an open alcohol container as a passenger in a vehicle, but i paid my fine and it hasn't come back to hurt me thus far in life. Is this something that I need to include on my application and will it come up in the background check that most schools perform? The offense was not in the state in which I'm applying. Also, are minor offenses like these red flags for business schools?
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16 Feb 2010, 17:30
I don't think so.. Only Criminal offences show up in background verifications.
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17 Feb 2010, 08:38
Hi Richie,

From our admissions experience, we don't believe that this should be a significant hurdle in your applications. Background checks/inclusions in applications are normally for more serious violations that resulted in convictions, etc. versus fines.
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18 Feb 2010, 03:32
Hi Richie:
I have a definitive answer for you, as I have done the research into background checks, have been doing consulting for the past 8 years and have worked with hundreds of applicants.

1. If a school does background check you, you will sign a separate part of the application agreeing to this check. Schools that come to mind are HBS and Wharton.
2. Most of these verifications are basically VOE (Verification of Employment) and not a full background check into criminal history, although the school reserves the right to do this. Basically, the school does not do a full blown background check.
3. Background checks are usually done by Kroll. This is a fun fact.....

This is the bottom line - the school is going to leave it up to you to disclose anything serious. An open container ticket is not something that you are going to need to disclose, unless the application is very specific about it.
Put another way is that the school does not even call the recommender most of the time, why would they spend another $50 to run a background check on you? That is my no BS answer for you. -Paul Lanzillotti Richie2010app wrote: I'm applying to business schools and I have a question about the background check process... I got a ticket in college for having an open alcohol container as a passenger in a vehicle, but i paid my fine and it hasn't come back to hurt me thus far in life. Is this something that I need to include on my application and will it come up in the background check that most schools perform? The offense was not in the state in which I'm applying. Also, are minor offenses like these red flags for business schools? _________________ Paul Lanzillotti | Founder| About | mba@amerasiaconsulting.com | 877.866.9251 Schedule a Consultation | Twitter | Blog Download "How To Apply" Guides | INSEAD | Columbia | Harvard | Wharton MBA Admissions Consultant Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 194 Location: New York Schools: University of Chicago, Columbia, Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, Cornell, NYU, Duke, Indiana Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 94 [0], given: 0 Re: Question on Background check [#permalink] ### Show Tags 18 Feb 2010, 09:27 PaulLanzillotti wrote: Hi Richie: I have a definitive answer for you, as I have done the research into background checks, have been doing consulting for the past 8 years and have worked with hundreds of applicants. 1. If a school does background check you, you will sign a separate part of the application agreeing to this check. Schools that come to mind are HBS and Wharton. 2. Most of these verifications are basically VOE (Verification of Employment) and not a full background check into criminal history, although the school reserves the right to do this. Basically, the school does not do a full blown background check. 3. Background checks are usually done by Kroll. This is a fun fact..... This is the bottom line - the school is going to leave it up to you to disclose anything serious. An open container ticket is not something that you are going to need to disclose, unless the application is very specific about it. Put another way is that the school does not even call the recommender most of the time, why would they spend another$50 to run a background check on you? That is my no BS answer for you.

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I'm applying to business schools and I have a question about the background check process... I got a ticket in college for having an open alcohol container as a passenger in a vehicle, but i paid my fine and it hasn't come back to hurt me thus far in life. Is this something that I need to include on my application and will it come up in the background check that most schools perform? The offense was not in the state in which I'm applying. Also, are minor offenses like these red flags for business schools?

Richie,
In summary, we are all saying - you should be fine Best of luck with your applications!
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18 Feb 2010, 09:41
So should I mention this on my application at all and click the "Have you ever committed a crime" box, or should i just leave it off all together?
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18 Feb 2010, 09:45
Richie2010app wrote:
So should I mention this on my application at all and click the "Have you ever committed a crime" box, or should i just leave it off all together?

What they've been trying to tell you is that getting a ticket is not "crime", in terms of the definition that is presented in the bschool application. That's why they are saying you will be fine. Leave the box blank.
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18 Feb 2010, 10:05
Hi Richie:
I stated above that you do not need to disclose but I realized that I may need to be more specific. You were issued a citation (ticket) and the best way to think about this is that this is akin to a traffic citation or ticket. I totally appreciate your thoroughness but you would not list the traffic tickets you have received. With my lead foot, I may have had to bust out the optional application for this one a few years back. It's TMI as they say in some other forums.
So, leave it off the application.
Respectfully,
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So should I mention this on my application at all and click the "Have you ever committed a crime" box, or should i just leave it off all together?

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18 Feb 2010, 11:54
Sorry if we confused you earlier. Your situation is akin to a traffic violation, and hence not applicable to a criminal history. So yes, please leave it off

However, you do come across with a lot of integrity and hopefully that comes across in your application package. Integrity, accountability and responsibility are key characteristics being sought after in future business leaders through the essays, letters and data forms by business schools, and I am impressed that you chose to verify your situation multiple times.

Best of luck - do come back and tell us how it turned out!
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