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Answer for the same should be 'D'
Here's Why:

Options A & B are out because we need 'Which' to modify Mochican inscriptions.Moreover, as people said which is referring to stone tablets,my take which is correctly referring to mochican inscriptions because when we read in a group " Mochican Inscriptions on Stone tablets"

We left with Options C, D ,& E.
Option D is best & concise among them.

Hope my attempt at the same is correct! :roll:
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I approached with the last part of all answers. Imitated is incorrect since that means it is not happening now. So we are down with B and D. Between these, second part of the sentence will talk about the stone tables, so just written seems to fit correctly vs. which were written - in addition since the researches are reporting this another which coming in the second half does not sound right.
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New post 31 Jul 2015, 20:42
"intimidated" is incorrect. it should be "intimidating".
so only left option B and D. relative pronoun cause and verb-ing modifier cant paralleled.
so rule out D, I guess the answer is B?
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correct modifier usage hence B imho.
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Researchers report that the earliest surviving Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets, written with natural inks and imitated the Inca style of calligraphy, date from the eighth century B.

A. written with natural inks and imitated

B. written with natural inks and imitating

C. which were written with natural inks that imitated

D. which were written with natural inks and imitating

E. which was written with natural inks and which imitated

parallelism - participle modifier and participle modifier. upon scanning choices only one is correct on two important words
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Pure play of parallelism and logical reference for the pronoun ‘which’
Written and imitating are participial modifiers that befit the context. It is wrong to think that a past participle cannot be combined with a present participle. There are official examples to prove this point.

We can dispose of the pronoun issue of ‘which’ in one stroke that it is wrongly referring to the tablets rather than to the inscriptions. But then arguments surface that on the tablets is an essential prepositional modifier and therefore the inscriptions indeed are the logical reference. However, even after winking at this issue, we can still arrive at the right answer.

A. written with natural inks and imitated --- pseudo parallelism; meaning changes that the stone tablets imitated the Incas; it is the inscriptions that imitated. Here 'imitated' is a working past tense verb and not a past participle

B. written with natural inks and imitating --- Correct

C. which were written with natural inks that imitated ---What imitated the Inca?; definitely not the natural inks.

D. which were written with natural inks and imitating --- structurally unparallel; this sentence is trying to join a subordinate clause with a phrase by using the parallel comparator ‘and’

E. which was written with natural inks and which imitated --- which 'was written' is plain S-V number mismatch


P.S. eighth century B should be eighth century B.C., I suppose.


Thanks. I was confused b/w A and B.

I thought that past participle require past participle modifier.
Moreover, for -ed modifier it is tough to decide whether its working as modifier or as a verb.

I ask the question, is subject doing that work, then -ed is verb else modifier. ( as per e-gmat)

In this case, I asked " Is inscription doing the imitation". I was not sure about this. I thought NO. The inscription are not actually doing the work of imitation. So, its modifier and thus can be parallel.

Pls advice.
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If you parse the clause and analyze the meaning, you will get to know the nuance. The text means that 1. Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets, (were) written with natural inks --- this is fine; written is a past participle.

2. If we add the same ‘were’ to the second part, it doesn’t work— (Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets) were imitated the Inca style – this is meaningless. Hence ‘imitated’ must be the action word of what the Mohican inscriptions did; therefore it is a past tense verb and not a past participial modifier like written. Please do not doubt whether an inscription can do any action. The action is meant figuratively.
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Concept Tested:
Parallelism: Participial should be in Parallel with a Participial (Written and imitating) (A is incorrect)
Modifier: Which should follow modify touch rule. Here it is modifying 'Stone tablets' (C,D, and E are incorrect)
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If you parse the clause and analyze the meaning, you will get to know the nuance. The text means that 1. Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets, (were) written with natural inks --- this is fine; written is a past participle.

2. If we add the same ‘were’ to the second part, it doesn’t work— (Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets) were imitated the Inca style – this is meaningless. Hence ‘imitated’ must be the action word of what the Mohican inscriptions did; therefore it is a past tense verb and not a past participial modifier like written. Please do not doubt whether an inscription can do any action. The action is meant figuratively.


Thank you so much. The were part you explained is brilliant. :)
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Researchers report that the earliest surviving Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets, written with natural inks and imitated the Inca style of calligraphy, date from the eighth century B.

A. written with natural inks and imitated

B. written with natural inks and imitating

C. which were written with natural inks that imitated

D. which were written with natural inks and imitating

E. which was written with natural inks and which imitated

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It is a clear B here...we are tested the parallelism of different modifiers...one is an -ed modifier, other is an -ing modifier.
only B maintains the parallelism and the intended meaning.
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I was confused between A and B.. but why do we choose imitating in place of imitated? i chose A because it was in past tense. can someone please explain why imitating is the correct answer?
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I was confused between A and B.. but why do we choose imitating in place of imitated? i chose A because it was in past tense. can someone please explain why imitating is the correct answer?


Imitating signifies the role that these inscriptions are still playing. If you choose A, you are saying that these inscriptions imitated some style. What does that mean? Are they not doing it now? As they are still telling us some style, we will use imitating.

Notice that 'Written' is in Past form because those inscriptions were written in the past. It is not that someone is still writing those.

Please try to decode the sentence meaning while answering any SC questions.
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Pure play of parallelism and logical reference for the pronoun ‘which’
Written and imitating are participial modifiers that befit the context. It is wrong to think that a past participle cannot be combined with a present participle. There are official examples to prove this point.

We can dispose of the pronoun issue of ‘which’ in one stroke that it is wrongly referring to the tablets rather than to the inscriptions. But then arguments surface that on the tablets is an essential prepositional modifier and therefore the inscriptions indeed are the logical reference. However, even after winking at this issue, we can still arrive at the right answer.

A. written with natural inks and imitated --- pseudo parallelism; meaning changes that the stone tablets imitated the Incas; it is the inscriptions that imitated. Here 'imitated' is a working past tense verb and not a past participle

B. written with natural inks and imitating --- Correct

C. which were written with natural inks that imitated ---What imitated the Inca?; definitely not the natural inks.


D. which were written with natural inks and imitating --- structurally unparallel; this sentence is trying to join a subordinate clause with a phrase by using the parallel comparator ‘and’

E. which was written with natural inks and which imitated --- which 'was written' is plain S-V number mismatch


P.S. eighth century B should be eighth century B.C., I suppose.



Thanks for your wonderful explanation daagh.
just to clarify, we ARE allowed to parallel two participial (past or present) in a participial phrase to modify subject, correct?

C. written with natural inks and imitating

in this case written || imitating is acceptable, evidently.

One more follow up question, does similar parallelism rule apply for absolute phrase/modifier?

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Thanks for your wonderful explanation daagh.
just to clarify, we ARE allowed to parallel two participial (past or present) in a participial phrase to modify subject, correct?

C. written with natural inks and imitating

in this case written || imitating is acceptable, evidently.

One more follow up question, does similar parallelism rule apply for absolute phrase/modifier?

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Hello TheRzS,


Thank you for the query. :-)


The entities that perform the same function in the sentence can make a parallel list. Structurally, they may not look identical, but because they perform the same function in the sentence, they become part of the same list.

Same is the case with this e-GMAT sentence in which written, a verb-ed modifier, is perfectly parallel to imitating, a verb-ing modifier, because both modifiers modify the same noun entity Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets.


At e-GMAT, we call such lists Imperfect Lists because the parallel elements in such lists structurally do not appear similar. In fact, we have an elaborate article on the same topic that contains many official examples of such questions that have "imperfect parallel list". This article named e-gmat Article - Parallelism: Imperfect List can be viewed in clicking on the following link:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/parallelism-imperfect-list-142791.html


I would also be glad to help you with the other follow up question. Can you please elaborate a bit more on the same, preferably with a reference sentence, so that I can provide you relevant information?

Hope this helps. :-)
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Researchers report that the earliest surviving Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets, written with natural inks and imitated the Inca style of calligraphy, date from the eighth century B.

A. written with natural inks and imitated written and imitated are not parallel

B. written with natural inks and imitating written and imitating are parallel[color=#ff0000]

C. which were written with natural inks that imitated which refers to tablets ,it should refer to inscriptions[color=#ff0000][/color]

D. which were written with natural inks and imitatingsame as C

E. which was written with natural inks and which imitated same as C

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TheRzS wrote:

Thanks for your wonderful explanation daagh.
just to clarify, we ARE allowed to parallel two participial (past or present) in a participial phrase to modify subject, correct?

C. written with natural inks and imitating

in this case written || imitating is acceptable, evidently.

One more follow up question, does similar parallelism rule apply for absolute phrase/modifier?

Thanks
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Hello TheRzS,


Thank you for the query. :-)


The entities that perform the same function in the sentence can make a parallel list. Structurally, they may not look identical, but because they perform the same function in the sentence, they become part of the same list.

Same is the case with this e-GMAT sentence in which written, a verb-ed modifier, is perfectly parallel to imitating, a verb-ing modifier, because both modifiers modify the same noun entity Mohican inscriptions on stone tablets.


At e-GMAT, we call such lists Imperfect Lists because the parallel elements in such lists structurally do not appear similar. In fact, we have an elaborate article on the same topic that contains many official examples of such questions that have "imperfect parallel list". This article named e-gmat Article - Parallelism: Imperfect List can be viewed in clicking on the following link:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/parallelism-imperfect-list-142791.html


I would also be glad to help you with the other follow up question. Can you please elaborate a bit more on the same, preferably with a reference sentence, so that I can provide you relevant information?

Hope this helps. :-)
Thanks.
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As good as an explanation gets. Thanks Shraddha
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The past continuous tense “were imitating” conveys the meaning that the Greek inscriptions were continuously imitating something. Since the sentence presents general information about the Greek inscriptions in the past context, Simple Past Tense Verb should be used. -> D is wrong.

According to Kaplan, patterns in B and D often appear in the actual exam.
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Still i didn't understand why D is he wrong choice, Could someone please clarify my doubt.
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Still i didn't understand why D is he wrong choice, Could someone please clarify my doubt.


Hey SonGoku ,

D has ||ism issues.

which were written with natural inks --> This is a subordinate clause

imitating --> This is a phrase.

You are joining these two with a conjunction "and".

The rule is "X and Y", where X and Y must be ||

In D, you are trying to make a subordinate clause || to a phrase. This is NOT allowed.

Does that make sense?
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Thanks for the clarification abhimahna, then why cannot A be the right choice ?
Written and imitated are Parallel right?(Though B makes more sense, I want to know whats gramatically wrong in A)
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