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Recent advances in surgical procedures have not decreased the average time for recovery from medical operations. Compared to ten years ago, the average post-operative hospital stay for patients undergoing surgery at the ten largest hospitals has actually increased by four days. Although mortality rates for operative procedures are much lower, patients are requiring more time to recover from these procedures. Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining. The medical community should be very concerned about this grave problem.

All of the following, if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT:

A)Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
B)Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
C)In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
D)Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
E)Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.

Can someone explain his line of thinking approaching this question?
What I did, I was looking for the answers that would weaken the conclusion and deleted those.
still chose the wrong one.

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Option B stands as the best answer for us)Fewer than thirty
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surgery...as our main target is to weaken the conclusion made by the authour that many patients take long time to recover in the hospitals due to advances in surgical operations..option b by stating that less than thirty percent of the patients recovering from surgical operations remain in the hospital for a while as 70 or more of the patient who have recovered from the same advanced surgical operations get discharged..so B offers us with the best choice of answer.

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This question is of Weaken EXCEPT" type, i.e. our objective is to find the answer that
- strengthens the conclusion
- does not affect or is irrelevant to conclusion
- Out of scope answer

Conclusion: The quality of operative and post-operative care is declining and medical community should be concerned about it.
Reasoning: patients are requiring more time to recover from these procedures despite recent advancements in surgical procedures.

A)Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
-- This choice weakens author's claim and states that operative/post-operative [color=#ff0000]mortality rates are most accurate indicators, NOT the recovery time.
[/color]B)Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
-- This choice doesn't weaken or strengthen the conclusion, as the percentage of occupancy does not tell us anything about avg time of post surgical recovery. Author's reasoning is focused around decline in average time of recovery. Just the fact that "the occupancy is less than 30%" doesnt help us to evaluate whether the choice supports or weakens author's claim. The occupancy might have increased from 20% to 25% OR decreased from 25% to 10%. It can go either way and still be under 30%. Hence this is the correct for "Weaken EXCEPT" type answer.
C)In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
-- This weakens author's conclusion.
D)Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
-- This weakens author's conclusion and implies that hospital stay would reduce as the surgeries can be performed in clinics.
E)Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.
-- This also clearly weakens author's conclusion
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I'm not fully convinced about B. I picked A and of course is wrong.

After several reflections I'm still not convinced about the OA


Im not convinced either and ill tell you why.
It always happens to me in questions where the reasoning you need to choose is out of scope or doesnt hurt the argument.
Thats exactly whats going on here.
Naturally I want to choose something that does not weaken but not something that doesnt mean anything at all.
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I'm not fully convinced about B. I picked A and of course is wrong.

After several reflections I'm still not convinced about the OA


Further explanation:-
This choice doesn't weaken or strengthen the conclusion, as the percentage of occupancy does not tell us anything about avg time of post surgical recovery. Author's reasoning is focused around decline in average time of recovery. Just the fact that "the occupancy is less than 30%" doesn't help us to evaluate whether the choice supports or weakens author's claim. The occupancy might have increased from 20% to 25% OR decreased from 25% to 10%. It can go either way, but still remain under 30%. Hence this is the correct for "Weaken EXCEPT" type answer.
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A)Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
-- This choice weakens author's claim and states that operative/post-operative rates are most accurate indicators, NOT the recovery time.

so ?? our conclusion is

Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining.



In weaken argument we have always something that explain another aspect related to the argument and ALWAYS out of scope in somehow. ALWAYS

here the only thing I read is .. rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care, in which way ??

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A)Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
-- This choice weakens author's claim and states that operative/post-operative rates are most accurate indicators, NOT the recovery time.

so ?? our conclusion is

Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining.



In weaken argument we have always something that explain another aspect related to the argument and ALWAYS out of scope in somehow. ALWAYS

here the only thing I read is .. rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care, in which way ??

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Little correction to my explanation
(A) This choice weakens author's claim and states that operative/post-operative mortality rates are most accurate indicators, NOT the recovery time. This weakens author's claim because author is focusing on factors those may not be true indicators of quality.
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Its "weaken Except " i.e Strengthen ,Neutral ,or OFS required in correct answer -

Conclusion The quality of operative and post-operative care is declining.

Only-B)Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.- Irrelevant to conclusion

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Recent advances in surgical procedures have not decreased the average time for recovery from medical operations. Compared to ten years ago, the average post-operative hospital stay for patients undergoing surgery at the ten largest hospitals has actually increased by four days. Although mortality rates for operative procedures are much lower, patients are requiring more time to recover from these procedures. Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining. The medical community should be very concerned about this grave problem.

All of the following, if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT:

A)Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
B)Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
C)In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
D)Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
E)Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.

Can someone explain his line of thinking approaching this question?
What I did, I was looking for the answers that would weaken the conclusion and deleted those.
still chose the wrong one.

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Premise of the argument: Average post-operative stay in hospitals is increasing
Conclusion: The quality of the operative and the post-operative care is declining.
Assumption:The period of post operative stay in the hospitals determines the quality of the operative and post-operative care

So anything that weakens the argument should weaken the premise, or weaken the assumption or show that the conclusion doesn't logically follow from the premise and the assumption.

Choice A weakens the assumption
Choice D and E weaken the premise

I know the answer is supposed to be B and it is ok but Choice C also doesn't weaken the argument as it doesn't weaken the premise or the assumption. It just says something contrary to the conclusion of the author.
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I know the answer is supposed to be B and it is ok but Choice C also doesn't weaken the argument as it doesn't weaken the premise or the assumption. It just says something contrary to the conclusion of the author.


Just want to make a slight correction. (C) does weaken the conclusion. This is because if previously untreatable illnesses can be treated to major procedures then it is likely that these major procedures rather than a decline in the quality of post operative care is driving the increased post operative recovery time.

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All of the following, if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT:

A. Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
B. Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
C. In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
D. Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
E. Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.

I could not decide between B & E. For option E, OE provided by Kaplan is as below:

Choice (E): is out of scope and directly contradicts the author's main evidence.

My question is if E is out of scope, then it doesn't weaken the argument and therefore should be come under 'if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT'.

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Ya E truly weakens the argument. It says...Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years...

What it means? It means that previously patients had to rest at home for longer after surgery, but now they don't have to. It translates to the fact that quality of post surgical care has improved.

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Recent advances in surgical procedures have not decreased the average time for recovery from medical operations. Compared to ten years ago, the average post-operative hospital stay for patients undergoing surgery at the ten largest hospitals has actually increased by four days. Although mortality rates for operative procedures are much lower, patients are requiring more time to recover from these procedures. Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining. The medical community should be very concerned about this grave problem.

All of the following, if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT:

A. Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
B. Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
C. In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
D. Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
E. Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.

I could not decide between B & E. For option E, OE provided by Kaplan is as below:

Choice (E): is out of scope and directly contradicts the author's main evidence.

My question is if E is out of scope, then it doesn't weaken the argument and therefore should be come under 'if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT'.

Please help with your explanations.


Conclusion: Compared to ten years ago, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining.

A: argument says mortality rates are lower and are most accurate indicators of quality of medical care. It means care is improving. ---- Weakens
C: Innovations allow previously inoperable conditions to be treated now. It means quality has improved. ----- Weakens
D: again complex surgical procedures are simplified to be carried out from clinics. Quality of medical care improved. ---- Weakens

E: Avg surgical recovery time (Time spent at hospital + Time spent disabled from doing normal activities at home) has decreased by 12%, implying that quality of medical care improved. ----- Weakens

Don't get bogged down by the info in the main arg that patients are taking longer time to recover at hospitals. Here, in this choice E, author introduces a new definition of avg recovery time, implying that the total recovery time has decreased over the past 10 years.

B: Fewer than 30% of beds are occupied in the largest hospitals by patients recovering from surgery CORRECT

Fewer than 30% of beds may be 1% or 29% - may turn out to be a negligible number or a significant number. We don't know.

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Thanks for the explanation. I was really confused by the OE. :-)

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Ya E truly weakens the argument. It says...Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years...

What it means? It means that previously patients had to rest at home for longer after surgery, but now they don't have to. It translates to the fact that quality of post surgical care has improved.

So ans should be B.

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Thanks for explanation Gian. Really helpful. :-)

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Recent advances in surgical procedures have not decreased the average time for recovery from medical operations. Compared to ten years ago, the average post-operative hospital stay for patients undergoing surgery at the ten largest hospitals has actually increased by four days. Although mortality rates for operative procedures are much lower, patients are requiring more time to recover from these procedures. Clearly, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining. The medical community should be very concerned about this grave problem.

All of the following, if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT:

A. Operative and post-operative mortality rates are the most accurate indicators of quality of medical care.
B. Fewer than thirty percent of beds in the largest hospitals are occupied by patients recovering from surgery.
C. In the past ten years, innovations have allowed previously inoperable conditions to be treated successfully by major surgery.
D. Every year, many surgical procedures that previously required hospital stays are simplified enough that they can safely be performed in outpatient clinics.
E. Average surgical recovery time, measured by hospital stay plus time spent disabled from normal activities at home, has decreased by twelve percent in the last ten years.

I could not decide between B & E. For option E, OE provided by Kaplan is as below:

Choice (E): is out of scope and directly contradicts the author's main evidence.

My question is if E is out of scope, then it doesn't weaken the argument and therefore should be come under 'if true, weaken the argument above EXCEPT'.

Please help with your explanations.


Conclusion: Compared to ten years ago, the quality of operative and post-operative care is declining.

A: argument says mortality rates are lower and are most accurate indicators of quality of medical care. It means care is improving. ---- Weakens
C: Innovations allow previously inoperable conditions to be treated now. It means quality has improved. ----- Weakens
D: again complex surgical procedures are simplified to be carried out from clinics. Quality of medical care improved. ---- Weakens

E: Avg surgical recovery time (Time spent at hospital + Time spent disabled from doing normal activities at home) has decreased by 12%, implying that quality of medical care improved. ----- Weakens

Don't get bogged down by the info in the main arg that patients are taking longer time to recover at hospitals. Here, in this choice E, author introduces a new definition of avg recovery time, implying that the total recovery time has decreased over the past 10 years.

B: Fewer than 30% of beds are occupied in the largest hospitals by patients recovering from surgery CORRECT

Fewer than 30% of beds may be 1% or 29% - may turn out to be a negligible number or a significant number. We don't know.

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Thanks Eli for reaching out. :-)... I have sent a PM to you with ID of the question.

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