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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

(A) Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,

(B) Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,

(C) Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from

(D) Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function, from

(E) Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from
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A IMO.....It should be 'ALL' and not 'any'

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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects
made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later
known as Sydney.
A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects
made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object
made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved
objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing
has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,
from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for
throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

I chose C during GMATPREP test for not very obvious reasons except it was active voice though I had doubt on "from" . Though correct answer .. is A as it ends with since 1788, which is needed for "when"
B - Any is wrong - (their .. has) incorrect
C - From awkward and when should have time etc.
D ..From
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A is the best. Modifiers are used correctly.
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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects
made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later
known as Sydney.
A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects
made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object
made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved
objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing
has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,
from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for
throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

A is the best choice based on Ponit of Elimination technique.

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I am not sure if "even since" is a right phrase as used in the option A. I think it should be 'ever since' otherwise A would not have any meaning.

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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians ever since 1788,
when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

In A, their refers to objects and sentence structure is correct. I was confused about even since . but i found on other forums that correct question has ever since.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians ever since 1788,

B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788, - Subject - verb agreement error

C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from - Ambiguous referent for their

D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function, from

E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from
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What I studied was, if we have pronoun ambiguity then try to use singular and other plural.

For instance in A), we have "all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects" and "non-australians" so to avoid ambiguity of their, we should try to use one singular and other plural. So in D) we have "any" that makes one part singular.

Did I understand this concept incorrectly?
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HI, I believe the question has a typo :

Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.
Can the moderators please correct the question.

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It has to be A.
Letter B has a wrong pronoun
C, D and E changes the meaning of the sentence, making it awkward and difficult to understand.

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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, Number mentioned is right (Their- Curved Objects- have been). Secondly 'When in the non-underlined portion must modify time mentioned closest to it- And it is modifying 1788
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788, Numbers disagree (Their- Object- Has been)
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from Whose form is talked about by 'their'- non-australians or curved objects? From is not required
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,
from from is not required
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from From is not required

I chose the right answer but still have few questions:-
1) 'All' or 'Any' changes the meaning in given sentence?
2) 'Since' and 'from' are redundant in this sentence? (I opted out option 'D' and 'E' thinking that 'Since' and 'From' are redundant)
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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,
from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

'from' at the end of sentence requires 'to' as well in order to have the right idiom 'from X to Y'. C, D and E are out.

'their' does not agree in number with 'any' in option B.

Answer A is the correct choice
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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,

Discussing only B because all other options have been thoroughly discussed above..

We can Either use - Their - All - Have or use Its - Any - Has but not Their - Any - Has
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Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians ever since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

Please note the typo in the transcription in the original text. It should be 'ever since' and not 'even since'.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians ever since 1788,--- Correct; ever since 1788 is close to what it intends to modify. 2. Plural 'their' tallies with the plural 'all' and objects.

B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians ever since 1788. -- 'their' does not tally with 'any object'

C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from ----- 1. 'Ever since' is placed far away from what its modified clause. 2. 'Their' might refer to the non-Australians

D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function, from--- ever since' is placed far away from what its modified clause

E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from-----1. 'Ever since' is placed far away from what its modified clause 2. 'Their' might refer to Non-Australians.

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Hi mikemcgarry

A few days ago you helped me with a modifier ( https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-normativ ... l#p1940940 ), I was hoping you could help me again... I understand A is correct here for many reasons, but I still have questions regarding the following modifier:

Quote:
Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,
from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

What is regardless of their form or function modifying on each alternative? Could you please correct my thoughts?

A. Noun modifier, modifying objects (or all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects). I think its an adjectival phrase? It answers: what kind? Any kind (regardless of their form or function)
B. Same as A, but singular object.
C. Noun modifier, modifying boomerangs.
D. Noun modifier Mistake? Modifying non-australians, or is it a verb modifier here, modifying called? It is the same phrase, the only change is the pronoun, can it be a adverbial phrase anyway?
E. I have the same confusion as in D, but if its a noun modifier i don't know which noun its modifying.

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Hi mikemcgarry

A few days ago you helped me with a modifier ( https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-normativ ... l#p1940940 ), I was hoping you could help me again... I understand A is correct here for many reasons, but I still have questions regarding the following modifier:

Quote:
Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

What is regardless of their form or function modifying on each alternative? Could you please correct my thoughts?

A. Noun modifier, modifying objects (or all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects). I think its an adjectival phrase? It answers: what kind? Any kind (regardless of their form or function)
B. Same as A, but singular object.
C. Noun modifier, modifying boomerangs.
D. Noun modifier Mistake? Modifying non-australians, or is it a verb modifier here, modifying called? It is the same phrase, the only change is the pronoun, can it be a adverbial phrase anyway?
E. I have the same confusion as in D, but if its a noun modifier i don't know which noun its modifying.

Kind regards,
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Dear CristianJuarez,

I'm happy to respond.

My friend, with all due respect, I would say that, in all five cases, "regardless of their form or function" is not a noun modifier but a verb modifier. If a modifier spoke of having a particular form or function, or even if it were "having any form or function," that would be answering the adjectival "what kind?" question. Different groups of boomerangs may have this or that form or function or any form or function at all.

The word "regardless" is tricky here. The root word is "regard," which implies human attention and prioritization. A boomerang can't have "regard" and therefore can't be "regardless." Only human subjects can have "regard" or act in a "regardless" manner. I would say that the word "regardless" always introduces an adverbial phrase, a verb modifier.

Of course, verb modifiers are not subject to the Modifier Touch Rule and can be placed with great freedom, as long as there's no ambiguity. Here, in all five instances, the phrase unambiguously modifies the verb "called." How was the calling done? It was done "regardless of their form or function." Recall that "How?" is an adverbial question.

My friend, does all this make sense?
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"from when" dose not exist in English grammar.
since should be used.

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CristianJuarez wrote:
Hi mikemcgarry

A few days ago you helped me with a modifier ( https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-normativ ... l#p1940940 ), I was hoping you could help me again... I understand A is correct here for many reasons, but I still have questions regarding the following modifier:

Quote:
Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788, when Europeans saw Dharug-peaking men tossing “bumariny” in the area later known as Sydney.

A. Regardless of their form or function, all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing have been called boomerangs by non-Australians even since 1788,
B. Regardless of their form or function, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians even since 1788,
C. Ever since 1788, non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerangs, regardless of their form or function, from
D. Ever since 1788, any aerodynamically enhanced, curved object made for throwing has been called a boomerang by non-Australians, regardless of its form or function,from
E. Non-Australians have called all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects made for throwing boomerang ever since 1788, regardless of their form or function, from

What is regardless of their form or function modifying on each alternative? Could you please correct my thoughts?

A. Noun modifier, modifying objects (or all aerodynamically enhanced, curved objects). I think its an adjectival phrase? It answers: what kind? Any kind (regardless of their form or function)
B. Same as A, but singular object.
C. Noun modifier, modifying boomerangs.
D. Noun modifier Mistake? Modifying non-australians, or is it a verb modifier here, modifying called? It is the same phrase, the only change is the pronoun, can it be a adverbial phrase anyway?
E. I have the same confusion as in D, but if its a noun modifier i don't know which noun its modifying.

Kind regards,
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Dear CristianJuarez,

I'm happy to respond.

My friend, with all due respect, I would say that, in all five cases, "regardless of their form or function" is not a noun modifier but a verb modifier. If a modifier spoke of having a particular form or function, or even if it were "having any form or function," that would be answering the adjectival "what kind?" question. Different groups of boomerangs may have this or that form or function or any form or function at all.

The word "regardless" is tricky here. The root word is "regard," which implies human attention and prioritization. A boomerang can't have "regard" and therefore can't be "regardless." Only human subjects can have "regard" or act in a "regardless" manner. I would say that the word "regardless" always introduces an adverbial phrase, a verb modifier.

Of course, verb modifiers are not subject to the Modifier Touch Rule and can be placed with great freedom, as long as there's no ambiguity. Here, in all five instances, the phrase unambiguously modifies the verb "called." How was the calling done? It was done "regardless of their form or function." Recall that "How?" is an adverbial question.

My friend, does all this make sense?
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Thank you Mike! Yes, it makes sense!

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