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# Required to survive or Required for survival

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24 Jul 2007, 23:06
Which sounds better? Does my question even make sense?

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24 Jul 2007, 23:15
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Which sounds better? Does my question even make sense?

depends...

require is a directive verb. when it is not followed by that, it is in the infinitive.

require that
required to survive

these books are required for school
This is required of me.
required for is also correct. it depends on the context. the correct answer may lie elsewhere in the answer choices.
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166. Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A) to survive
(B) of firms to survive
(C) for surviving
(D) for survival
(E) for firms’ survival

Thanks bmwhype2. The questions is pasted above. By the way, nice pic of Kristin Kreuk.
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166. Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A) to survive
(B) of firms to survive
(C) for surviving
(D) for survival
(E) for firms’ survival

Thanks bmwhype2. The questions is pasted above. By the way, nice pic of Kristin Kreuk.

Some people think that avatar is me. lol.

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand is a summative/resumptive modifier. we can pretty much ignore it since it does not add to the meaning of this stem.

therefore we only have this to consider:
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

Normally this would be correct: (note the omission of SUCH)
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, firms tend to be very large.

however, SUCH signifies to the reader that it is referring back to firms, which is not mentioned in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

therefore, we need to mention firms in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.
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24 Jul 2007, 23:56
got it man. thanks. haha. nice that some people think that avatar is you. must get a lot of messages. haha. appreciate the help. i've got to work on the fundamentals. i don't think the manhattan gmat book by itself was enough. do you think working with that and the SC1000 is enough? Sorry to bug. thanks. i'm just struggling and have a month left.
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24 Jul 2007, 23:56
this is hard!!!
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25 Jul 2007, 00:08
helpmeongmat wrote:
got it man. thanks. haha. nice that some people think that avatar is you. must get a lot of messages. haha. appreciate the help. i've got to work on the fundamentals. i don't think the manhattan gmat book by itself was enough. do you think working with that and the SC1000 is enough? Sorry to bug. thanks. i'm just struggling and have a month left.

I started out with GMAT's SC book but i felt it was too hard. started from the ground up with Grammar Smart from Princeton Review. Collect about 7 sets of internet notes and combined all of them into one. Then i read all of them on my commute to and from work. then i worked on SC1000 and learned about 80% of the SC from it. it really hits home once u start applying the knowledge to answer questions. i will be going back to MGMAT's book next week.

i get about 3 to 5 messages per week.
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helpmeongmat wrote:
166. Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A) to survive
(B) of firms to survive
(C) for surviving
(D) for survival
(E) for firms’ survival

Thanks bmwhype2. The questions is pasted above. By the way, nice pic of Kristin Kreuk.

Some people think that avatar is me. lol.

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand is a summative/resumptive modifier. we can pretty much ignore it since it does not add to the meaning of this stem.

therefore we only have this to consider:
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

Normally this would be correct: (note the omission of SUCH)
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, firms tend to be very large.

however, SUCH signifies to the reader that it is referring back to firms, which is not mentioned in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

therefore, we need to mention firms in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.[/quote

Very Nice! (The analysis I mean )
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04 Nov 2011, 04:22
bmwhype2 wrote:
helpmeongmat wrote:
166. Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A) to survive
(B) of firms to survive
(C) for surviving
(D) for survival
(E) for firms’ survival

Thanks bmwhype2. The questions is pasted above. By the way, nice pic of Kristin Kreuk.

Some people think that avatar is me. lol.

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand is a summative/resumptive modifier. we can pretty much ignore it since it does not add to the meaning of this stem.

therefore we only have this to consider:
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

Normally this would be correct: (note the omission of SUCH)
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, firms tend to be very large.

however, SUCH signifies to the reader that it is referring back to firms, which is not mentioned in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

therefore, we need to mention firms in the dependent clause.
Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, such firms tend to be very large.

good explaination...... I chose A... but this post cleared my doubt...
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10 Nov 2011, 08:16
Great explanation. I fell for A
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26 Feb 2015, 13:25
I have one example that may undermine the logic for answering this question as option B.
In Manhattan SC book, it is specifically mentioned that the usage of 'required' is wrong in the following sentence

She requires of her friend to do work.

Now Isn't the structure of the sentence at hand similar to the structure of the above sentence?
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No, the problem above is different. In the SC, we are talking about the expenditures that are required of firms. Why are these expenditures required? To survive.

In the sentence you cited, "she" requires something of her friend, but she doesn't require it in order to work. In other words, she is not doing the working. Since the idea being expressed here is much simpler, we should use a simpler form: "She requires her friend to work."
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