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Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is

C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than

D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than

E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is
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A. wrong construction 'was or was not'. Wrong time ('is' required)
B. 'whether or not' - right construction. 'Was' changed to 'is'. Than correctly terminated by 'is'. Right one - correct answer
C-E. 'but that' is awkward and ungrammatical.

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IMO C.

The sentence is using the structure X but Y, we need to maintain parallelism between X and Y.
Here to maintain parallelism, we need to have a "that" after "but"
Researchers agreed that the study......but that more research....
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I am not fan of 'whether or not', 'whether' is sufficient.

IMO:

- agreed that .. , but that -> shows parallelism.
Can someone confirm?

- Also in B 'is' is not necessary in end.
Is it?

I pick C.
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thanks bigoyal for explantion!

I guess, my post lagged by few seconds. :)
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New post 29 Jul 2009, 01:53
Just a little query!! :)

The whole sentence is of past tense.

Why we are using "is" in below phrase
balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients ..

Why not "was"???
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i have the same doubt as above...and was actually inclined towards option D
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i have the same doubt as above...and was actually inclined towards option D


OA is B
What do u think guys OA is correct?
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OA is B
What do u think guys OA is correct?


I derived the same answer, so I definitely think it's correct.

We already started new clause with conjunction 'but', so 'that' is absolutely redundant here!

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Just a little query!! :) ... Why not "was"???


Reseach was conducted in the past, but 'balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound' is better in the past and present.

Past: balloon angioplasty was better (until sth. new is invented)
Present: balloon angioplasty is better (still nothing is better)
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ankur55 wrote:
OA is B
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I derived the same answer, so I definitely think it's correct.

We already started new clause with conjunction 'but', so 'that' is absolutely redundant here!


what about the clauses when we use it with the conjunction 'and'? In that case, we look for parallelism "and that". Why in that case 'that' is not redundant?
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i have the same doubt as above...and was actually inclined towards option D


IMO:
In D, "determined that" makes it in a subjunctive mood, so usage of 'was' is not correct.
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what about the clauses when we use it with the conjunction 'and'? In that case, we look for parallelism "and that"...


Please give me one example of such sentence.
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None of the answer choices are perfect:

A. "Preceded with" is wrong. Should be "preceded by"
"was or was not" unidiomatic, wordy and awkward.
B. "Whether or not" is redundant and hence wrong on the GMAT. Whether should suffice.
"For determining" is wrong. It should be "to determine"
C. The use of "that" is avoidable but doesnt make the construction wrong. the best among the given options
D. "Preceded with" is wrong. Should be "preceded by"
E. "For determining" is wrong. It should be "to determine"
"is or is not" unidiomatic, wordy and awkward.
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See this:

nice explanation!!
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post1993.html#p1993
summary:
C is the best.
- 'but that' is correct for parallelism.
- to determine
- preceded by

Also something useful for "conjunction +that"
http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentenc ... epaet.html


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OA is B
What do u think guys OA is correct?


I derived the same answer, so I definitely think it's correct.

We already started new clause with conjunction 'but', so 'that' is absolutely redundant here!



but here is conujction and not cordinating conjunction..so it is use to show contrat.....to work as coordinating conjunction it(but) must come after comma.....
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A is the best
B & C - whether is not used properly
D - that not used propely
E - too lengthy
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"was or was not" is kind of awkward for me. So I choose B.
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IMO B
A was or was not wrong
C, D Need to is not idimomatic, isnt it?
E is or is not doesnt sound right
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