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Conclusion: “…their knowledge of traditional Kaumpta customs may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find.”
Prethink: what the difference between “taught the location” and “determine the nature of any sites”? Do these shamans have the correct/pertinent knowledge and are they even willing to share such knowledge? DavidTutorexamPAL ty for this last prethink!
Which of the following is an assumption on which the success of the plan depends?

(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces.
Out of scope – we don’t care about researching having (or not having) reliable evidence that the A’mk of 1000 years ago built ceremonial spaces. The researchers are trying to find the “remains of A’mk buildings or ceremonial spaces.” Regardless of A’mk people building or not building important ceremonial spaces (or even less important ceremonial spaces), researchers are good to go between they want to find the remains of such buildings. It doesn’t matter if they built that or not. Building and possessing are different concepts.

(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.
Doesn’t match our prethink but this is pretty important. In the passage, it states the following: “The shamans were taught the location of such sites as part of their traditional training as youths.” The researchers want to leverage that knowledge of tranditional Kaumpta customs to determine the nature of any sites. But how old are the shamans? Do they have good memory as to what they learned when they were a youth? How old were they when they were considered a “youth”? 3? 7? 8? There’s a pretty big assumption made here.

(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge.
Out of scope – we don’t care about whether or not they’re held in high esteem (or even low esteem). As long as they have their knowledge (from their youth), that’s all that matters.

(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily.
Story trap – This is not assumed in the argument. This could be very well true. But it doesn’t matter within the confines of the argument; more specifically, it doesn’t matter in terms of reaching the conclusion within the argument.

(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.
Doesn’t have to assumed. All we know is that the shamans were taught the location of A’mk sites. Whether it was in the Kaumpta region or not is outside the understanding of this stimulus.
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There is no conclusion indicator in the passage. How to determine conclusion in such cases?
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There is no conclusion indicator in the passage. How to determine conclusion in such cases?

You’re right to note that the passage has no word, such as “therefore,” “thus,” or “hence,” that would indicate an obvious conclusion. In fact, the passage itself doesn’t seem to have a conclusion. Rather, it describes a plan formulated by researchers with a specific goal in mind. Let’s think about their plan:

  • The researchers want to find clues about the A’mk people.
  • To do this, they plant to use shamans to locate “ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces.”
  • They believe this will be possible because the shamans learned the location of these sites as youths.
  • And shamans’ cultural customs “may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find.”

There isn’t really an explicit conclusion found in that plan. We could argue that the researchers have implicitly concluded that their plan will be successful. But I’m not really sure that helps a whole lot. It’s more important that we answer the question being asked. And the question being asked is about an assumption on which the success of a plan depends, not an assumption on which a conclusion depends.

So, the researchers have formulated the plan because they believe that it will help them learn about the A’mk people. We’re asked to identify which of the answer choices is an assumption on which “the success of the plan” depends. In other words, for the plan to be successful, what must be true?

With that in mind, let’s consider the answer choices:

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(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces.

It does not HAVE to be true that the researchers have reliable evidence that the A’mk built important ceremonial spaces. It’s possible that the researchers find regular A’mk buildings that give clues about the A’mk. It’s also possible that A’mk built important ceremonial spaces, but the researchers lack reliable evidence that they built those spaces. For those two reasons, (A) does not have to be true for the researchers’ plan to be successful. Eliminate (A).

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(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.

The entirety of the researchers’ plan is predicated on their belief that the shamans will be able to help them find ancient A’mk sites that they learned the location of as youths. But this requires that the shamans accurately remember where those sites are. If not, the researchers plan will not be successful. So, it seems like (B) must be true for the researchers’ plan to be successful. Let’s keep (B).

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(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge.

It’s important to the researchers’ plan that the traditional knowledge of Kaumpta shamans is accurate. But it does not HAVE to be true that the shamans are held in high esteem for that knowledge. Eliminate (C).

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(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily.

The researchers plan involves using Kaumpta shamans to find A’mk sites. It does not require the use of modern technologies, and it definitely does not require that modern technologies find some A’mk sites EASILY. Eliminate (D).

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(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.

(E) is tempting. Ideally, for the researchers plan to be highly successful, it would be great if most or all A’mk sites are likely to be found in the Kaumpta region. But that does not have to be true. It’s possible that only some A’mk sites are LIKELY to be found in the Kaumpta region. The researchers’ plan could be successful while finding only some of the A’mk sites. It’s also far more important whether the researchers ACTUALLY find sites than whether they are LIKELY to find sites. Eliminate (E).

(B) is the only answer choice remaining, and it is correct.

I hope that helps!


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Loved the way you explained. So all it depends on the what the argument is setting up. And most of the cases when the conclusion is there, the assumption needs to be true for the conclusion to be true. Right ?
Also it gets difficult to identify whether it is supporter based or defender followed up with pre-phrasing. Whatever i pre-phrase doesn't seem to relate in the options. And i end up choosing the wrong answer.
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Re: Researchers hope to find clues about the A'mk peoples who lived in the [#permalink]
Researchers hope to find clues about the A'mk peoples who lived in the Kaumpta region about one thousand years ago but who left few obvious traces. The researchers plan to hire the few remaining shamans of the modern-day indigenous people in Kaumpta, who are believed to be descended from the A'mk, to lead them to ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces. The shamans were taught the location of such sites as part of their traditional training as youths, and their knowledge of traditional Kaumpta customs may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find. OG

Which of the following is an assumption on which the success of the plan depends?

(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces.

This is a tempting choice. The reality is the researchers don’t have to have any evidence at all for their plan to work. What really matters are two things: a) Whether the indigenous people can lead the researchers to these buildings or ceremonial spaces, and b) That those spaces actually exist in the region. The violation of any of these two things will ruin the plan.

(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.

Correct! Well, wouldn’t the plan be completely ruined if these people couldn’t remember a lick about where the sites are?

(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge.

That’s nice…

(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily.

That’s nice…we aren’t discussing the merits of other methods…the passage is strictly about whether these shamans can help the researchers…

(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.

Does it have to be most or all? It could be ANY site the researchers find.

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Researchers hope to find clues about the A'mk peoples who lived in the Kaumpta region about one thousand years ago but who left few obvious traces. The researchers plan to hire the few remaining shamans of the modern-day indigenous people in Kaumpta, who are believed to be descended from the A'mk, to lead them to ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces. The shamans were taught the location of such sites as part of their traditional training as youths, and their knowledge of traditional Kaumpta customs may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the success of the plan depends?

(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces.
(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.
(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge.
(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily.
(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.


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Hint: the conclusion is (The shamans were taught the location of such sites as part of their traditional training as youths, and their knowledge of traditional Kaumpta customs may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find)

(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces., wrong as it mentioned in the passage that "to lead them to ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces" thus, it might be there, so it is incorrect to mention that researchers have reliable evidence!
(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths. - Correct, if they don't have any memory, thus, researchers will not benefit from shamans
(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge. - Wrong, irrelevant to the conclusion
(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily. Wrong, it weakens the argument by saying another path to find the required places
(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region. - Wrong, irrelevant to the conclusion
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I was confused between B & E? Please help me to reject E.

(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.
Negation - Not most (or few) sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region. If this condition is true, they are searching in a wrong place. So the chances of finding find clues about the A'mk peoples are very low. This might reduce the chances of this plan to succeed.

(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.
I was confused with word "reasonably accurate", What if memory is partially accurate, they could still help to find sites. B does not have to be true for the plan to succeed.
I couldn't judge whose (b vs c) impact was higher on the success of the plan.
b) impact of partially accurate memory or not a reasonably accurate memory
e) impact of few sites are likely to be found

Please help.
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I was confused between B & E? Please help me to reject E.

(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.
Negation - Not most (or few) sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region. If this condition is true, they are searching in a wrong place. So the chances of finding find clues about the A'mk peoples are very low. This might reduce the chances of this plan to succeed.

(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.
I was confused with word "reasonably accurate", What if memory is partially accurate, they could still help to find sites. B does not have to be true for the plan to succeed.
I couldn't judge whose (b vs c) impact was higher on the success of the plan.
b) impact of partially accurate memory or not a reasonably accurate memory
e) impact of few sites are likely to be found

Please help.
Thanks in advance.

Hello, Sneha2021. I think you have misinterpreted what reasonably accurate conveys. If we picture the treasure map of a pirate in which X marks the spot on some island (did any real pirates create such maps?), a fellow pirate who helped bury the treasure decades before might not be able to take someone directly to that X, but might recall certain features of the terrain that would help an expedition dig in the right area. This is what is meant by reasonably accurate—not precise or perfect, but close enough to reality to be of use. If you choose to negate answer choice (B), you are left with shamans do not have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths, and that would be highly problematic for the researchers relying upon them as guides. To draw from my earlier pirate example, it would be as if the old pirate said he could remember nothing more than a beach, when there might be miles of shoreline on the island in question.

To evaluate answer choice (E), you might want to take a closer look at the plan itself. The passage tells us that {t}he researchers plan to hire the few remaining shamans of the modern-day indigenous people in Kaumpta... to lead them to ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces. For this plan to succeed, it is not necessary for most or all A'mk sites to lie within Kaumpta—the plan is not to locate most or all former A'mk sites. Rather, if the speculation on the ancestral ties of the shamans is accurate, the researchers are looking for a lead, any lead, that will help them find clues about the A'mk peoples. Negating answer choice (E) does nothing to sever that connection. They really need to locate just a single A'mk site or shred of evidence to obtain the clues they seek.

Perhaps the question makes more sense now. (I think it is harder than the timer statistics would indicate.) Thank you for thinking to ask for clarification, and good luck with your studies.

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The researchers aim to gather information about the A'mk peoples who lived in the Kaumpta region a thousand years ago. They plan to enlist the help of the remaining shamans from the modern-day indigenous population in Kaumpta, who are believed to be descendants of the A'mk. These shamans, during their traditional training as youths, were taught the locations of significant sites associated with the A'mk, such as buildings or ceremonial spaces.

To ensure the success of the plan, we need to make an assumption that is necessary for the shamans' knowledge to be reliable and effective in guiding the researchers to the ancestral sites. The assumption we are looking for is a condition or belief that must be true for the plan to work.

Option (B) states that the shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of the A'mk sites they learned about during their youth. This assumption is crucial because it implies that the knowledge passed down to the shamans is dependable and can lead the researchers to the remains of A'mk structures or ceremonial areas. If the shamans' memory of these sites is unreliable or if they have forgotten the locations, the plan would not be successful as the researchers would be unable to locate the desired ancestral sites.

Therefore, the assumption in option (B) is necessary for the plan's success, as it relies on the belief that the shamans have retained an accurate recollection of the A'mk sites from their training as youths.
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This question is not as easy as the statistics tell. Probably, most of the members have already solved these questions from OG and simply know the correct answer when the question pops up on the screen.

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(1) Researchers hope to find clues about the A'mk peoples who lived in the Kaumpta region about one thousand years ago but who left few obvious traces.
(2) The researchers plan to hire the few remaining shamans of the modern-day indigenous people in Kaumpta, who are believed to be descended from the A'mk, (decendants)
(3) The shamans were taught the location of such sites as part of their traditional training as youths, (educated)
(4) and their knowledge of traditional Kaumpta customs may help determine the nature of any sites the researchers find.
(5*) Assumption missing
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(6) Shamans will lead them to ancestral sites that may be the remains of A'mk buildings or ceremonial spaces.


Which of the following is an assumption on which the success of the plan depends?

(A) The researchers have reliable evidence that the A'mk of one thousand years ago built important ceremonial spaces.

The argument is not about the importance of ceremonial spaces, but rather whether the shamans will help lead them to the sites.

(B) The shamans have a reasonably accurate memory of A'mk sites they learned about as youths.

This is correct and this works as a defender assumption. This is the gap in the argument.
Negating the statement results in "Shamans have unreliable memory of the sites".
If they have unreliable memory, how would they lead us to the sites? (the conclusion).
It affects the conclusion.

(C) Kaumpta shamans are generally held in high esteem for their traditional knowledge.

This statement is unrelated to whether they will help us find the sites. They could have low-esteem and still find the sites.

(D) Modern technologies available to the researchers are likely to be able to find some A'mk sites easily.

That could be true outside the argument But if they do have these technologies, why on the first place did the researchers argue on using help from shamans? This is not related to the argument.


(E) Most or all A'mk sites are likely to be found within the Kaumpta region.

This shifts the focus from "whether the shamans will help us find the sites" to "whether there are sites".
The logical opposite of most is "not most" or "less than 50%" but not neccessarily mean "0%).
Negating this statement yields: "Less than 50% of the sites are to be found within the region". Would that affect the shamans ability to find those locations? No. Hence this answer is incorrect.
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