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Retired poker pro Justin Karet claims to be “over the game” and has spent much time disparaging the professional poker circuit to the media over the past year. Karet’s claims have no credibility, however, for despite his boasts that he would not bother to travel more than 30 minutes to attend a tournament, even if he expected to win, Karet was recently sighted at the Fulterton Poker Tilt, a sanctioned tournament event held 90 minutes from his hometown of Guerra.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the argument?

A) Karet has “retired” twice before, only to return to professional poker each time.
B) Karet was heard to claim that he would win the tournament handily, and did, taking home an estimated \$115,000 in an afternoon’s play.
C) Karet no longer lives within an hour’s drive of Guerra.
D) Karet was offered a significant appearance fee to attend the tournament.
E) Karet has also claimed that blackjack is superior to poker.
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02 Dec 2013, 20:13
Hint: What would weaken Karet's credibility? If traveling to this tournament doesn't weaken Karet's credibility, why not?
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IMO C . Pretty straight one to be honest:

Conclusion: Karet's claims do not have credibility based on Karet's boast that he would not travel even 30 minutes to the Poker tournament while he was seen at a sanctioned torunament 90 minutes from Guerra i.e. his hometown.

Assumption: His credibility would be doubted if he did travel more than 30 mins to attend the tournament. To weaken this, we need to find an option that says he did not travel for at least 30 minutes.

Option C says "Karet no longer lives within an hour’s drive of Guerra."- He lives within (90-60)= 30 minutes from sanctioned tournament place and he would not have traveled at least 30 mins to the tournament.

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what if Karet lives on the other side of Guerra ... 'Karet' ---------- 'Guerra' ---------- 'Tournament'.

Remember that we are looking for an answer choice that would weaken the conclusion the most. Only answer C speaks about a situation, in which it might take Karet maximum 30 minutes to travel to the tournament.
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KasiaEconomistGMAT wrote:
prinfy wrote:
what if Karet lives on the other side of Guerra ... 'Karet' ---------- 'Guerra' ---------- 'Tournament'.

Remember that we are looking for an answer choice that would weaken the conclusion the most. Only answer C speaks about a situation, in which it might take Karet maximum 30 minutes to travel to the tournament.

This option still doesnt make sense to me. How it weakens the argument. D is much better than this because it cites a possible reason for Karet to travel to the tournament.
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16 Oct 2014, 10:34
KasiaEconomistGMAT wrote:
prinfy wrote:
what if Karet lives on the other side of Guerra ... 'Karet' ---------- 'Guerra' ---------- 'Tournament'.

Remember that we are looking for an answer choice that would weaken the conclusion the most. Only answer C speaks about a situation, in which it might take Karet maximum 30 minutes to travel to the tournament.

This option still doesnt make sense to me. How it weakens the argument. D is much better than this because it cites a possible reason for Karet to travel to the tournament.

Yeah I also feel the same.

Can someone explain why C is correct???

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16 Oct 2014, 17:37
I agree as well....prinfy has a valid reasoning...Can someone also please disclose the source of the question..

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26 Aug 2015, 23:28
Hi,

I seriously feel that the answer option C is incorrect.
We can state an alternative reason to weaken the conclusion that "his claims are false".
Option D talks about that alternative reason.He might not have gone to play the game but to be present there because he was offered an hefty amount.

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My take is Option C (after carefully analysing Option D).

My Explanation:
Argument: Justin Karet is not believed to be credible person. He claims that he will not travel to a poker tournament more than 30 minutes, even if he is expected to win that tournament
Fact: Justin Karet recently sighted at the Fulterton Poker Tilt, a sanctioned tournament event held 90 minutes from his hometown of Guerra
Approach: We need to find an option that makes Justin Karet claims credible. Lets evaluate the options:

Option D: Karet was offered a significant appearance fee to attend the tournament.
hmm..That means Karet has the incentive to attend the tournament. Now two scenarios may occur:
Scenario 1: Karet accepted the appearance fee, but Karet lives nearby the event location (say 20 min. drive). In this case Karet claims are credible (in reference to the argument)
Scenario 2: Karet accepted the appearance fee, but Karet lives far from the event location (say 5 hrs. drive). In this case Karet claims are not credible (in reference to the argument)

Hence Option D may or may not be the right answer.

Now consider Option C: Karet no longer lives within an hour’s drive of Guerra.
Interesting. Also the event location is 90 min. drive from Guerra. That means Karet has travelled <= 30 min. to reach to the event location. This leaves no room for any other scenario. Hence, Option C.

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04 Dec 2015, 19:24
helloooo
who the hell wrote this question?

Karet was recently sighted at the Fulterton Poker Tilt, a sanctioned tournament event held 90 minutes from his hometown of Guerra.

K lives in G.
FPT is 90~ min away from G.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the argument?

C) Karet no longer lives within an hour’s drive of Guerra.
so what? the TOURNAMENT is not in Guerra!!! guerra is his hometown!!! Moreover, he might live even farther

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04 Jan 2016, 03:48
the argument said the claim by KAret is dubious. And by weakening, we are trying to say the claim might be genuine. But WHAT IS THE CLAIM? THAT HE IS OVER THE GAME or THAT HE WOULD NEVER GO TO THE GAME THAT HE HAS TO DRIVE UP TO 30 MINUTES TO REACH? the former is a claim the later is described as a boast.
But you can eliminate A B D E and left with a dubiously inconclusive C. C does not necessarily weaken, but might weaken just as much as it might strengthen cos NOT WITHIN AN HOUR DRIVE OF GUERRA might mean closer to the poker place OR agonizingly farther away from the poker place, hence making Karet's claim and boast to be far more dubious than they were had the other options been the case. How could he travel longer than 30 mins for a game he claimed to be over?
But it might mean closer to the poker place as well.
But there is no way we can tell and draw a weakening conclusion.
Can somebody tell veritasprep to clarify this question please?

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04 Jan 2016, 04:06
C) Karet no longer lives within an hour’s drive of Guerra.

that means ==> Guerra - Caret home > 60 min

now if you make a caret home Guerra can be anywhere in its perimeter and to reach there it requires more than 60 min (assume a circle)

Now we don't know anything about fulerton distance from Guerra so we can't say anything about distance between fulerton. How did you arrive at the conclusion that now it is less than 30 min and not 60.

Not a good option, C

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KasiaEconomistGMAT wrote:
prinfy wrote:
what if Karet lives on the other side of Guerra ... 'Karet' ---------- 'Guerra' ---------- 'Tournament'.

Remember that we are looking for an answer choice that would weaken the conclusion the most. Only answer C speaks about a situation, in which it might take Karet maximum 30 minutes to travel to the tournament.

Can you elaborate? What do you think is the conclusion here and why?

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The conclusion out here is "Karet's claims have no credibility." His claim is that he would not bother to travel for more than 30 mins even if he is expected to win the game. Now the tournament which he is attending is 90 mins from his hometown. Hence the author suggests Karet's claims are invalid. So any answer choice which says Karet need not travel 90 mins is the answer. "C" clearly says that Karet no longer lives that far. Hence he would take less than 90 mins and the distance might be covered in 30 mins. Hence Karet's earlier claims are valid.
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Author also claims that he is over the game and option A weakens this claim by suggesting that he is not over the game. In my view this is a much better answer compared to C as author might be living in an area which is more than 1 hr drive from hometown but in a opposite direction from the place where tournament is being held. hence C doesn't either weaken or strengthen the argument.

can anybody please elaborate on this?

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Can some say how it's ok to be discounting the possibility that Karet could be living at a place > 60 mins away from Guerra and literally the diametrically opposite side of the venue of the tournament, making his travel distance > 150 minutes (60 mins from his residence to Guerra and 90 mins from Guerra to the venue)?

Also Option C says he's offered a 'significant fee' to attend the tournament which would provide him a stronger incentive than the wins, which he's already confident will win.

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Can some say how it's ok to be discounting the possibility that Karet could be living at a place > 60 mins away from Guerra and literally the diametrically opposite side of the venue of the tournament, making his travel distance > 150 minutes (60 mins from his residence to Guerra and 90 mins from Guerra to the venue)?

Also Option C says he's offered a 'significant fee' to attend the tournament which would provide him a stronger incentive than the wins, which he's already confident will win.

Assumption questions are must be true type - not strengthening or weakening questions. It is possible that if Karet does not leave within 60 minutes of Gueraa, he lives within 30 minutes of Fulterton. The possibility occurs when the living place is between Guerra and Fulterton. Although one cannot "conclude" that he actually lives between Guerra and Fulterto, but it is possible that he does and in that case option C is a weakening statement - for strengthening and weakening statement one need not "confirm" the conclusion - one just needs a supporting or opposing point.

Option D is irrelevant: Karet never claimed that he would not violate the 30 minute travel rule if a high fee is offered; he claimed that he would not travel at all if the journey takes more than 30 minutes - there is no point of fees in his claim. So how much money is offered is irrelevant.

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So what you're saying is its ok to make unwarranted assumptions about the information given in the option if it fits the response, especially for strengthen and weaken questions?

I've seen multiple questions of this type for which one of options were rejected because we're required to make assumptions about the options without any extra information. I've also posted responses on the forum for those types of questions.

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kskarthi wrote:
So what you're saying is its ok to make unwarranted assumptions about the information given in the option if it fits the response, especially for strengthen and weaken questions?

I've seen multiple questions of this type for which one of options were rejected because we're required to make assumptions about the options without any extra information. I've also posted responses on the forum for those types of questions.

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Yes, that is what I indicated.

If you could post the links to the other questions you referred to, we could discuss them as well.

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