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'It' is redundant as the subject takes care of 'it' .
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11 Jan 2011, 08:36
Answer is C, I got it by first look itself

'it' refers to clay warrior which is already mentioned in 1st part of sentence. Use seperation of Clauses fellows. Its pretty simply. You dont need to mention 'it' again. GMAT gives more of clause sentences rather than plain sentences which we use in our daily life.

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04 Jun 2011, 08:06
This is from GMAT prep test and it is correct question. OG question is little different from this
"It" is not needed hence answer is C
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
E. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

Pls help with the explanation of the correct answer. I was confused between B and D, it will be great if you could help me understand why D is not acceptable

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30 Dec 2011, 23:16
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
E. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

Pls help with the explanation of the correct answer. I was confused between B and D, it will be great if you could help me understand why D is not acceptable

The correct answer is C, not B or D.
This is an official GMAT question. Please do a search before you post.
In D you can't change the subject to artisans. B doesn't need the pronoun it. C is concise and correct.
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31 Dec 2011, 01:26
between B and C. C sounds better w/o the pronoun.
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13 Jan 2012, 20:17
This is a variant of the original OG question and tests a totally different concept.
I was able to eliminate everything except C and D.

In terms of meaning C is a better choice.

C: The army is 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.
D: The army is 2,000 years old and 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete. (needs an it?)

By the way what kind of sentence is "The army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete"? It sounds half way between a active and a passive voice. We can clearly tell "The army is 2,000 years old" is active voice. But the latter I am still not sure because The army doesn't seem to be doing the action, right?
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15 Jan 2012, 06:37
james12345 wrote:
110% C
the 'it' in B is redundant. Cut out the fluff and you get:

The terra-cotta army is 2000 years old and took artisans 36 years to complete it.

...sorry I just threw up on my keyboard. anyway--the 'it' is no bueno.

i would still go with (b) as there is no antecedent error with 'it'. In 'c' the question is 'complete what'.
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10 Mar 2012, 09:33
The answer should be C:

Parallelism needs to be maintained in this answer choice. Therefore, 2 verb phrases after "afterlife" must clearly describe the creation of these terra cotta warriors.

A. Breaks parallelism

B. Breaks parallelism

C. Parallelism is maintained

D. Not a verb phrase, so parallelism is broken

E. Not a verb phrase, so parallelism is broken.
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23 Mar 2012, 13:03
I think it is C here. "It" seems redundant.
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18 Sep 2012, 01:40
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Yup... The sentence is a bad one.

I took C. Anyone thinks B is the right answer???

Yes B seems to me as the right answer
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15 Jan 2013, 06:29
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I think that the answer should be B. Here's way:

Note: since there is no comma before "and", we know that we don't want to create another clause, otherwise we will end up with a run-on sentence. You normally connect the 2 clauses either with a comma before "and" or with any other subordinate conjunction such as "but", "not only.....but also", etc. A clause must have a subject and a verb. You can avoid the clause by removing either the subject or the verb after "and". Since we are still talking about the "army", we don't have to repeat it as the subject of this second "sentence", so we can look straight for the verbs, which makes our choices narrowed to A, B, and C:

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them

"army" is singular, so "them" doesn't have a clear referent.

B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it

I believe that "complete" is a transitive verb, meaning that it must have an object, so "it" would be good and it is clear that
"it" is referring to "army." So this choice will be my answer. keep it!

C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

As I explained for option B, "complete" is a transitive verb, meaning that it should have an object. Otherwise, what did the artisans complete? did they complete 1000 laps around their nation's border? hehe.... etc and etc....so as you can see, the verb "complete" must have an object to complete its thought, otherwise, people will end up wondering what's next. so I don't think C is correct.

D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
E. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

The remaining 2 answer choices have been eliminated already from my first reasoning in this post.
So what's the OA?

I believe that the answer is C.

Cut out all the "fat" and it will jump at you.

...the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

Note where I put the "it" in bold. Whether the "it" is there or not, the sentence remains correct because it is optional. Let us put another "it" at the end of the sentence and here's what you get:

...the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it.

The last "it" has become superfluous. It may sound correct but the sentence is not concise. It is similar to saying "The price of sugar has gone down by 30% decline".

Without the "it", the meaning is already clear. Why add it?
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24 Mar 2013, 22:27
The correct ans is C. Please edit the OA given in this question.( it is a repetition of OG12/61 with different ans choices)
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
E. to complete them took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them- them is wrong for pointing to Army, also pronoun use is bad here
B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it- using it sentence beomes
The Sculpture took Y men 4 hours to complete it.- in the same caluse i can't use one noun two times that too as sub and as obj

C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete the construction becomes a new IC, we need comma before and . also we need pronoun to refer the THE ARMY

E. to complete them took 700,000 artisans more than 36 yearswrong construction [/quote]
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

(A) took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
(B) took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
(C) took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
(D) 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
(E) to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

I have some doubt on OA so please post your answers with explaination.

C is correct.

The army is singular ==> A is out.
Structure is:
the army..............is more than 2,000 years old and took X more than 36 years to complete.

B is out because the use of "it" is redundant. It's like "the army took X 36 years to complete it".
D is out because the structure is not parallel.
E is out because the structure is not parallel

Only C is correct.
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

But the OA is not A; The actual answer is C, per MGMAT

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them – The subject is the army, referring to a collection antiques. It is a collective noun and singular, as corroborated by the verb “is”. Let’s also not mistake “created” for a verb; it is just a past participle. The pronoun “ them”, an object pronoun, is a problem here; it is plural but earlier its referent was verbed by a singular; so, A is out.

B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it – The subject is the army; but the pronoun “it” is redundant; It is good enough to say, that the army took more than 700,000 artisans to complete

C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete --- the subject is again the army and the choice simply skirts the vexing pronoun issue, by altogether dropping it. This is the most concise choice.

D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete------ In this choice, the subject changes to 700,00 artisans and although the clause is perfect technically, still the second clause is not connected to the main theme and one is tempted to ask “to complete what?”

E. to complete them took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years --- them is a wrong pronoun.
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Sir, can you please help me understand if there is any other issue with choice B apart from the pronoun (which I think is not incorrect but you are right in saying C is more concise than B)

Well, it is the only difference between B and C. So, if you agree that C is better, then there cannot be anything else wrong in B (except the it): )

By the way, this redundant pronoun phenomenon is actually quite prominently tested. This is from Verbal supplement:

The computer company’s present troubles are a result of techno-logical stagnation, marketing missteps, and managerial blunders that several attempts at revising corporate strategies have failed to correct them.

them is redundant here.

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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
Wrong.
"them" is redundant. The correct structure is: the army of terra-cotta took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.
The army is collective noun --> singular ---> "them" is wrong.

B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
Wrong. "it" is redundant. The correct structure is: the army of terra-cotta took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it

C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
Correct. The structure is: the army of terra-cotta is more than 2000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete. Good parallel structure.

D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
Wrong. Parallelism problem. "took" must be placed BEFORE "700,000 artisans".

E. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years
Wrong. Parallelism problem. "is more than 2000 years old and to complete them too..."
Pls help with the explanation of the correct answer. I was confused between B and D, it will be great if you could help me understand why D is not acceptable[/quote]

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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

A. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them
B. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
C. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
D. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete
E. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

Pls help with the explanation of the correct answer. I was confused between B and D, it will be great if you could help me understand why D is not acceptable

First, what's the subject of the sentence? (e.g. What's it about?)

the army of terra-cotta warriors

Now, let's look at the rest of the sentence...

created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife

This isn't really important to answering the question. Ignore it.

is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

OK, let's put this together.
the army of terra-cotta warriors is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.

The way the grammar of this sentence works is this:

THE ARMY…is (x)…and (y).

Let's make this easier by breaking it up into two new, shorter sentences.

The army is more than 2,000 years old. It took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

The "it" in this sentence is a pronoun standing in for "the army". In the correct answer, C, the pronoun is not needed because we use "and" as a coordinating conjunction to link the two clauses that share a common subject. This is also why both A & B are wrong.

D is not a right choice because it changes the subject from THE ARMY to 700,000 ARTISANS. For D to be right, we would need "it" at the end of the clause. To see why, again try breaking this up into two shorter sentences:
The army is more than 2,000 years old. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete <WHAT?>.

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29 Nov 2013, 09:14
It is similar to this : " The movie "The Simpsons" took 500 people 3 weeks to complete.

'It' is redundant as the subject takes care of 'it' .

The movie "The Simpsons" took 500 people 3 weeks to complete.

this is slightly unclear,

The move "x" took y to complete what?

The move "x" took y to complete music, screening etc, but that?
atleast IT would refer to itself.

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