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27 Jun 2007, 21:53
The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms

Guys, this question has been discussed in the past. I have a very specific query regarding this question. where exactly do we use "so as to"?
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28 Jun 2007, 12:13
shoonya wrote:
The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms

Guys, this question has been discussed in the past. I have a very specific query regarding this question. where exactly do we use "so as to"?

easy!

so as to is ALWAYS wrong.

the correct usage is so X as to Y
Danny is so ugly as to scare off the pretty girls.
This idiom focuses on the extremeness of something. In my sentence, the extremeness of Danny's ugliness.

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28 Jun 2007, 12:29
bmwhype2 wrote:
shoonya wrote:
The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms

Guys, this question has been discussed in the past. I have a very specific query regarding this question. where exactly do we use "so as to"?

easy!

so as to is ALWAYS wrong.

the correct usage is so X as to Y
Danny is so ugly as to scare off the pretty girls.
This idiom focuses on the extremeness of something. In my sentence, the extremeness of Danny's ugliness.

Good explanation BMW.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
>>wordy
C. to warm the rooms up
>>>sounds awkward
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms
>>wordy

My pick is D

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28 Jun 2007, 12:30
C is concise and idiomatic

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28 Jun 2007, 12:35
bmwhype2 wrote:
shoonya wrote:
The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms

Guys, this question has been discussed in the past. I have a very specific query regarding this question. where exactly do we use "so as to"?

easy!

so as to is ALWAYS wrong.

the correct usage is so X as to Y
Danny is so ugly as to scare off the pretty girls.
This idiom focuses on the extremeness of something. In my sentence, the extremeness of Danny's ugliness.

agreed.

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28 Jun 2007, 13:30
bmwhype2 wrote:

Danny is so ugly as to scare off the pretty girls.

Good example ...and great explanation!

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29 Jun 2007, 04:55
What is the OA?

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09 Sep 2007, 00:53
abhinava wrote:
What is the OA?

OA is D.

A so as to wrong.
B. wordy compared to D.
C. "warm up" is the term
D. correct
E. in order to wrong.

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09 Sep 2007, 04:01
bmwhype2 wrote:
shoonya wrote:
The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms

Guys, this question has been discussed in the past. I have a very specific query regarding this question. where exactly do we use "so as to"?

easy!

so as to is ALWAYS wrong.

the correct usage is so X as to Y
Danny is so ugly as to scare off the pretty girls.
This idiom focuses on the extremeness of something. In my sentence, the extremeness of Danny's ugliness.

While I agree that in Gmatland the only permitted use of so as to is so ADJ as to (as cited by BMW).

However, the below is excerpted from Dictionary.com

so as, a. with the result or purpose: to turn up the volume of the radio so as to drown out the noise from the next apartment.
b. Older Use. provided that: I like any flower, just so as it's real.

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09 Sep 2007, 11:10
dahcrap wrote:
C is concise and idiomatic

yes choice C is not that bad but you should not split up infinitives on GMAT, that's why "warm up" has to stay together

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09 Sep 2007, 11:31
bmwhype2 wrote:
abhinava wrote:
What is the OA?

OA is D.

A so as to wrong.
B. wordy compared to D.
C. "warm up" is the term
D. correct
E. in order to wrong.

I picked C
How can OA=D???
D use "they" and it can refers to "walls" or "Romans" or "floors". Clearly "they" in D had no direct reference.
For this reason, I completely disagree with OA=D.

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09 Sep 2007, 14:50
bkk145 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
abhinava wrote:
What is the OA?

OA is D.

A so as to wrong.
B. wordy compared to D.
C. "warm up" is the term
D. correct
E. in order to wrong.

I picked C
How can OA=D???
D use "they" and it can refers to "walls" or "Romans" or "floors". Clearly "they" in D had no direct reference.
For this reason, I completely disagree with OA=D.

same here ... thats why I didnt pick D, because i thought it referred to floors

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09 Sep 2007, 15:07
pmenon wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
abhinava wrote:
What is the OA?

OA is D.

A so as to wrong.
B. wordy compared to D.
C. "warm up" is the term
D. correct
E. in order to wrong.

I picked C
How can OA=D???
D use "they" and it can refers to "walls" or "Romans" or "floors". Clearly "they" in D had no direct reference.
For this reason, I completely disagree with OA=D.

same here ... thats why I didnt pick D, because i thought it referred to floors

THAT must touch the noun it refers to. The only exception is prepositional phrases that act as middlemen.

This is the box that fell off the table.
This is the book (on top of the bookcase) that tumbled down.

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09 Sep 2007, 23:17
Same here, I picked C. how is they appropriate?

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10 Apr 2008, 14:42
People, what does "they" in choice (D) refer to? Romans..walls...floors? It's so damn ambiguous. I can't believe that's the answer.

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