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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.
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23 Nov 2013, 02:39
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization (that flourished at the same time as the civilizations) in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

is option D a correct Noun+ Noun modifier..
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30 Nov 2013, 06:46
I am between A and B. The use of past perfect i B doesn't seem to be neccessary and in A "in same time as civilisation in .." doesn't seem to be ok.
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07 Jan 2014, 07:56
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.

the past perfect "had flourished" is not the correct form of verb we need here. We certainly don't need present participle either, that's why only A and C are contenders.

C) "at the same time those had" makes absolutely no sense, so we go with A.
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09 Jan 2014, 14:22
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

A Vs. B:
I agree that B is past perfect, but I can't agree with choice A without having it modified as below. Any thoughts?

the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations did/flourished in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
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09 Jan 2014, 19:22
sarangadhar wrote:
I agree that B is past perfect, but I can't agree with choice A without having it modified as below. Any thoughts?

the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations did/flourished in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

If the comparison is unambiguous, we don't need a "verb" (such as "did"/"flourished"). Basically it is optional. Here, the comparison is clearly between "site of an ancient civilization" and "civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates".

For example, following would be correct:

sarangadhar has the same car as Stephane.

What would also be correct is obviously:

sarangadhar has the same car as Stephane has.
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16 Feb 2014, 07:40
go2venkat wrote:
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.

If we break the default sentence into clauses

1) Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, (ic)
2) the site of an ancient civilization (DC)
3) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates. (DC)

The verb for Site is missing

How to decide whether to break the sentence as below? Or as stated above

1) Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization (IC)
2) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates. (DC)
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27 Feb 2014, 04:26
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go2venkat wrote:
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.

If we break the default sentence into clauses

1) Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, (ic)
2) the site of an ancient civilization (DC)
3) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates. (DC)

The verb for Site is missing

How to decide whether to break the sentence as below? Or as stated above

1) Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization (IC)
2) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates. (DC)

Your second analysis is correct. "Site" doesn't need a verb since it's a noun modifier in this context.

Hope this helps. To revise this concept, be sure to check out our articles on modifiers.

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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

B. is out because we don't need past perfect tense in this comntext
C. is out because THOSE is unclear to refer to civilizations and this alternative is not making comparison b/w two civilizations
D and E are out because THOSE issue and FLOURISHING issue

Then A is the best choice in this context
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go2venkat wrote:
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.

Time : 1.20 Sec
Answer : A

Split
That flourished - correct usage , past tense
that had flourished - past perfect - wrong
flourishing at - not flourishing right now - wrong meaning
So here we go , B,D,E out
Left with A & C
C - use of those plural - wrong
A - correct , concise.

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Anandnk, how can i read about the verb inversion ?
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16 May 2016, 09:54
Can we remove "that" in option A?
If no, how removal of "that" makes it a run-on sentence?
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anuj4012 wrote:
Can we remove "that" in option A?
If no, how removal of "that" makes it a run-on sentence?

When "that" is removed, there would be two sentences:

1. Salt deposits and moisture threaten....
2. The site of ancient civilization flourished.....

The above two sentences are joined by only a comma without conjunction, thus making this option a run-on sentence.

However when "that" is used, "The site of ancient civilization..." becomes a modifier (say modifier 1) of "Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan" and thus is not a run-on sentence. Please note that in this case within modifier 1, there is another nested relative clause modifier (modifier 2) - "that flourished...."
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

In C, D, and E, there is a pronoun ''those''. Here, those is plural. ''those' is used to refer 'ancient civilization', but 'ancient civilization' is singular. So, i've to scrutinize something, which is plural. Here, "the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates" is blocked off by COMMA, right?
My question is: should I look for plural noun out of THAT COMMA (e.g., Salt deposits and moisture threaten.......,?

also, 'Salt deposits and moisture' is what? is it the subject?
Thanks...
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15 Oct 2016, 12:21
SPLIT1) PRONOUN AGREEMENT: "THOSE" DOES NOT HAVE A CLEAR ANTECEDENT. AN ANCIENT CIVILIZATION IS SINGULAR. C,D AND E ARE OUT.

SPLIT2) VERB PAST PERFECT VS VERB SIMPLE PAST. PAST PERFECT IS REQUIRED IF 1) PAST TENSE AND 2) THERE WERE DIFFERENT TIMELINES, SOMETHING HAPPENED BEFORE SOMETHING ELSE. B IS OUT.

SPLIT3) FLOURISHING IMPLIES THAT IS STILL HAPPENING, THIS IS WRONG BECAUSE WE WANT TO STICK TO THE PAST AND ALSO SOMETHING DONE. D AND E ARE OUT.
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[quote="go2venkat"]Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations--best
(B) that had flourished at the same time a---no need of past perfect
(C) that flourished at the same time those had--no particular referent for those, moreover comparison is missing, as is needed .
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did ----no particular referent for those
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were
----no particular referent for those
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How is "that" in "the site of an ancient civilization that" modifying "civilization"? "of an ancient civilization" is a propositional phrase thus i thought "that" is modifying "site".

Why is this understanding incorrect?
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