Last visit was: 23 Apr 2024, 15:31 It is currently 23 Apr 2024, 15:31

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Tags:
Show Tags
Hide Tags
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 885
Own Kudos [?]: 992 [43]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Most Helpful Reply
Tutor
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Posts: 14816
Own Kudos [?]: 64882 [8]
Given Kudos: 426
Location: Pune, India
Send PM
General Discussion
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 566
Own Kudos [?]: 176 [2]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 2004
Own Kudos [?]: 1899 [3]
Given Kudos: 0
Location: Singapore
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
2
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Premise:
1) Ceramic vase found in Sicilian tomb
2) Vase manufactured in Greece
3) Occupant of tomb died during reign of Sicilian ruler some 2700 years ago

Conclusion:
4) There is trade between Sicily and Greece 2700 years ago.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Can't really tie in with the conclusion

(B) Same problem as A

(C) Doesn't mean there's trade between Greece and Sicily

(D) The vase that was found at the Sicilian tomb was not placed there many generations later by descendants of the occupant of the tomb.

(E) Irrelevant

I'll go with D. If the vase was not placed there generations later, then it must have come from Greece 2700 years back.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 210
Own Kudos [?]: 70 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
To draw the conclusion we must have to assume that there are no other mean through which vase has reached to sisly.

D is the perfect example of this. So answer is D
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 25 Apr 2013
Posts: 45
Own Kudos [?]: 33 [3]
Given Kudos: 12
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
1
Kudos
2
Bookmarks
Was solving this question yesterday, and got stuck between C and D.

I feel that the reason why C is not correct is because it just limits the mode of transport to “ships” and “large quantities of manufactured goods”. So, even if we negate C (which means that ships were “not” available to transport “large quantities of manufactured goods”), still conclusion is intact (trade between Sicily and Greece is possible through, say, ships that are capable of even transporting “small quantities of manufactured goods”; after all, there is not much of a “heavy transport” required to transport few ceramic vases).

So, C was this, then I believe it could have been correct: At the time that the occupant of the tomb was alive, there was some way of transporting goods between Sicily and Greece.

On the other hand, if we negate D, then we cannot reach the conclusion at all.
Manager
Manager
Joined: 05 Jan 2016
Status:Final Call! Will Achieve Target ANyHow This Tym! :)
Posts: 70
Own Kudos [?]: 153 [2]
Given Kudos: 135
Location: India
GMAT 1: 620 Q49 V25
GPA: 3.8
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
1
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Basically, the main point to think for this question is similar to a crime scene situation, as follows,

if we found any evidence for a crime at the crime scene after some days of the crime, suppose, so the correct assumption should be that the evidence was NOT planted afterwards when the crime had already occured.

This same strategy is used in the Question above.
Attachments

File comment: Similar concept tested on this question as well.
VeritasPrep-CR.PNG
VeritasPrep-CR.PNG [ 313.42 KiB | Viewed 27023 times ]

Manager
Manager
Joined: 08 Jan 2018
Posts: 169
Own Kudos [?]: 991 [0]
Given Kudos: 332
Location: United States (ID)
GPA: 3.33
WE:Accounting (Accounting)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
vnigam21 wrote:
Basically, the main point to think for this question is similar to a crime scene situation, as follows,

if we found any evidence for a crime at the crime scene after some days of the crime, suppose, so the correct assumption should be that the evidence was NOT planted afterwards when the crime had already occured.

This same strategy is used in the Question above.


so, the answer for your question from Veritas is A?

Also, I think moderators here do not like a question in a topic for another question.
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 29 Oct 2015
Posts: 468
Own Kudos [?]: 254 [4]
Given Kudos: 293
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
4
Kudos
vivek123 wrote:
Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the vase was manufactured in Greece. Since the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2,700 years ago, the location of the vase indicates that there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Sicilian potters who lived during the reign of the ruler did not produce work of the same level of quality as did Greek potters.

(B) Sicilian clay that was used in the manufacture of pottery during the ruler's reign bore little resemblance to Greek clay used to manufacture pottery at that time.

(C) At the time that the occupant of the tomb was alive, there were ships capable of transporting large quantities of manufactured goods between Sicily and Greece.

(D) The vase that was found at the Sicilian tomb was not placed there many generations later by descendants of the occupant of the tomb.

(E) The occupant of the tomb was not a member of the royal family to which the Sicilian ruler belonged.



The conclusion is :- Since the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2,700 years ago, the location of the vase indicates that there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago.

Negate option C ,
At the time that the occupant of the tomb was alive, there were NO ship capable of transporting large quantities of manufactured goods between Sicily and Greece.

Still the conclusion follows because even though there were NO ship capable of transporting large quantities of goods , still there can be ships capable of transporting small quantities of goods such as vase.
So the conclusion follows that there was trade between Sicily and Greece.
Conclusion follows after negating statement.
C ant be the assumption.

Negate option D,
The vase that was found at the Sicilian tomb was placed there many generations later by descendants of the occupant of the tomb.
Then the conclusion can not follow. Then the vase can t be the indicator that there was trade between Sicily and Greece .
2700 years ago.

The conclusion cant follow after negating the statement.
D is the assumption.

Please give me kudo s if you liked my explanation.
Current Student
Joined: 06 Feb 2019
Posts: 1
Own Kudos [?]: 0 [0]
Given Kudos: 10
Location: India
GMAT 1: 630 Q46 V32
GPA: 3.37
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
vivek123 wrote:
Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the vase was manufactured in Greece. Since the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2,700 years ago, the location of the vase indicates that there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Sicilian potters who lived during the reign of the ruler did not produce work of the same level of quality as did Greek potters.

(B) Sicilian clay that was used in the manufacture of pottery during the ruler's reign bore little resemblance to Greek clay used to manufacture pottery at that time.

(C) At the time that the occupant of the tomb was alive, there were ships capable of transporting large quantities of manufactured goods between Sicily and Greece.

(D) The vase that was found at the Sicilian tomb was not placed there many generations later by descendants of the occupant of the tomb.

(E) The occupant of the tomb was not a member of the royal family to which the Sicilian ruler belonged.




Answer choice D, if negated, would say something like.. Meteors strike in certain places more often than other places in the world. This negation completely destroys the conclusion because it offers an alternative explanation to why craters are clumped together.
Board of Directors
Joined: 11 Jun 2011
Status:QA & VA Forum Moderator
Posts: 6072
Own Kudos [?]: 4688 [0]
Given Kudos: 463
Location: India
GPA: 3.5
WE:Business Development (Commercial Banking)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
vaibhavjethi wrote:
vivek123 wrote:
Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the vase was manufactured in Greece. Since the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2,700 years ago, the location of the vase indicates that there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Sicilian potters who lived during the reign of the ruler did not produce work of the same level of quality as did Greek potters.

(B) Sicilian clay that was used in the manufacture of pottery during the ruler's reign bore little resemblance to Greek clay used to manufacture pottery at that time.

(C) At the time that the occupant of the tomb was alive, there were ships capable of transporting large quantities of manufactured goods between Sicily and Greece.

(D) The vase that was found at the Sicilian tomb was not placed there many generations later by descendants of the occupant of the tomb.

(E) The occupant of the tomb was not a member of the royal family to which the Sicilian ruler belonged.




Answer choice D, if negated, would say something like.. Meteors strike in certain places more often than other places in the world. This negation completely destroys the conclusion because it offers an alternative explanation to why craters are clumped together.


Very very true !!!!

IMHO, this is a perfect example of a Passive assumption which eGMAT teaches...
VP
VP
Joined: 14 Feb 2017
Posts: 1115
Own Kudos [?]: 2162 [1]
Given Kudos: 368
Location: Australia
Concentration: Technology, Strategy
GMAT 1: 560 Q41 V26
GMAT 2: 550 Q43 V23
GMAT 3: 650 Q47 V33
GMAT 4: 650 Q44 V36
GMAT 5: 600 Q38 V35
GMAT 6: 710 Q47 V41
WE:Management Consulting (Consulting)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
The argument is that the vase was manufactured in Greece, not Sicily.
This is based on evidence that the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of the Sicilian ruler who lived 2700 years ago; thus, the timing of the death and location of the trade indicate that there was a trade between Sicily and Greece 2700 years ago.

We are asked to identify an assumption upon which the argument depends - a statement that must be true in order for the argument to be true.
A is incorrect because for all we know there were no potters and all vases were imported. This does not need to be assumed to make the argument.
B is incorrect because even if the clay resembles Greece's it still doesn't negate the fact some Vases were imported from Greece during Italian-Greek trade times.
C is incorrect - for all we know transport could have been by land.
D is correct - this needs to be true. If someone placed the vase in the tomb generations after then obviously we cannot conclude that the vase was the product of Italian- Greek trade.
E is incorrect because even if he was a member this does not impact the argument that deals with the source of the vase.
Manager
Manager
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 80
Own Kudos [?]: 83 [0]
Given Kudos: 23
Location: Russian Federation
Concentration: Strategy, Leadership
WE:Consulting (Manufacturing)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
Greece vase found in Sicily
2700 years ago died occupant of the tomb
Assumption
Conclusion: There was trade

Assumptions: someone painted it ot someone put it there later
Choice (A) DID NOT Produce - Wrong
So, correct answer - (D)
Intern
Intern
Joined: 14 Jun 2019
Posts: 37
Own Kudos [?]: 66 [0]
Given Kudos: 14
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
Can you please help me in understanding the reasoning of the author?
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 03 Oct 2013
Affiliations: CrackVerbal
Posts: 4946
Own Kudos [?]: 7624 [1]
Given Kudos: 215
Location: India
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
eka9045 wrote:
Can you please help me in understanding the reasoning of the author?


Hi Eka

Let us break the stimulus down into the conclusion and the premises on which the conclusion is based.

Conclusion: "...there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago."

Premises (on which the conclusion is based):

1) Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily show that the vase was made in Greece.
2) The occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2700 years ago --> it is fair to assume that the occupant of the tomb died approx. 2700 years ago.

As per the author, (1) & (2) above lead to the conclusion that there was trade between Greece and Sicily 2700 years ago, since a Greek manufactured item was found in a 2700 year old tomb in Sicily.

Clearly, to arrive at this conclusion, it is necessary to assume that the Greek item was placed at the time the tomb was made and not at a later date, since if the item was placed at a later date (say, 2500 years ago), we can only conclusively say that there was trade between Greece and Sicily 2500 years ago while being unable to state anything conclusive about trade between the two regions 2700 years ago. The only option that states this is (D).

Hope this helps.
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 31 Jan 2019
Posts: 368
Own Kudos [?]: 43 [0]
Given Kudos: 530
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
The answer is (D), but this is not showing any relation b/w the vase and its made in Greece relation. It just say's that a vase was not replaced by anyone after the tomb was captured.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 03 Oct 2013
Affiliations: CrackVerbal
Posts: 4946
Own Kudos [?]: 7624 [1]
Given Kudos: 215
Location: India
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
1
Kudos
lakshya14 wrote:
The answer is (D), but this is not showing any relation b/w the vase and its made in Greece relation. It just say's that a vase was not replaced by anyone after the tomb was captured.


Hi Lakshya

Let us analyze the conclusion: "...there was trade between Sicily and Greece 2,700 years ago". Please note that the conclusion is not only about place (Greece and Sicily) but also the time (2700 years ago).

The premises on which this conclusion is based:

1) Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the vase was manufactured in Greece.
2) ...the occupant of the tomb died during the reign of a Sicilian ruler who lived 2,700 years ago.

Therefore, the vase proves it was made in Greece and the tomb in Sicily is 2700 years old. Hence, there was trade between Sicily and Greece at the time. Clearly, there can be other explanations for both put together.

Option (D) states one such - that the vase could have been put in the grave at a later date - and rules it out. It does not connect the vase to Greece but rules out an alternative explanation for the vase being found in the grave, thereby making the case for the timing (2700 years ago) stronger.

Hope this helps.
Current Student
Joined: 06 Feb 2016
Status:On the journey of achieving
Affiliations: Senior Manager, CA by profession, CFA(USA) Level 2
Posts: 254
Own Kudos [?]: 167 [0]
Given Kudos: 148
Location: India
Concentration: Finance, Finance
GMAT 1: 560 Q44 V23
GMAT 2: 530 Q39 V24
GMAT 3: 580 Q46 V24 (Online)
GMAT 4: 640 Q50 V26
GPA: 3.82
WE:Other (Commercial Banking)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
VeritasKarishma Mam Kindly explain this question
Intern
Intern
Joined: 16 Jun 2020
Posts: 6
Own Kudos [?]: 0 [0]
Given Kudos: 15
Location: India
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
My take D, otherwise the conclusion will fall apart.
Current Student
Joined: 23 Oct 2019
Posts: 49
Own Kudos [?]: 3 [0]
Given Kudos: 3516
Location: Thailand
Schools: Ross '24 (M)
Send PM
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
VeritasKarishma egmat GMATNinja GMATNinjatwo
Could you please explain how to negate option B?
I wonder if it should be "bore no resemblance" or "bore resemblance".
Thanks for your help.
GMAT Club Bot
Re: Samples from a ceramic vase found at a tomb in Sicily prove that the [#permalink]
 1   2   
Moderators:
GMAT Club Verbal Expert
6917 posts
GMAT Club Verbal Expert
238 posts
CR Forum Moderator
832 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne