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Hi, I few questions that foxed me. G
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After a few weeks experience, apprentice jewelers can usually begin
to discriminate, though not with absolute certainty, genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds.
(A) genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds
(B) genuine diamonds apart from imitations
(C) between genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(D) among genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(E) whether diamonds are imitation or genuine

(The answer in the key is C, I thought the answer to be A. But isn't using both discriminate and between redundant? After all one always dicriminates something from the rest.)
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If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated, or even suspected, the impending sale of the Koniko kelp processing plant, they would have advised owners of Koniko stock to unload all shares immediately.
(A) If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(C) If any people at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(E) If anybody at InterCom Financial Advisers anticipated

(The answer in the key is D, I thought the answer to be E. I never heard of it, so is "any people" proper GMAT English?)[/u]

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31 May 2004, 01:47
encyclo wrote:
Hi, I few questions that foxed me. G
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After a few weeks experience, apprentice jewelers can usually begin
to discriminate, though not with absolute certainty, genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds.
(A) genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds
(B) genuine diamonds apart from imitations
(C) between genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(D) among genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(E) whether diamonds are imitation or genuine

(The answer in the key is C, I thought the answer to be A. But isn't using both discriminate and between redundant? After all one always dicriminates something from the rest.)

I picked C as well, though I can't rationally explaing the choice.

encyclo wrote:
If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated, or even suspected, the impending sale of the Koniko kelp processing plant, they would have advised owners of Koniko stock to unload all shares immediately.
(A) If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(C) If any people at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(E) If anybody at InterCom Financial Advisers anticipated

(The answer in the key is D, I thought the answer to be E. I never heard of it, so is "any people" proper GMAT English?)[/u]

"Any people" here sounds awkward. I believe there is a typo; the answer should be B. Choices A, C, and E are wrong since the grammatical structure is not correct. We should use Past Perfect as it is an unreal conditional sentence. Choice B uses the proper grammar and wording.

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31 May 2004, 04:18

Q1

I found 4 idioms for discriminate and they all carry different meaning (even if it's not always significant):

discriminate between: to note or observe a difference, distinguish accurately

discriminate from: to differentiate, to make/constitute a distinction

Hence, in this sentence discriminate between follows the context/ meaning of the sentence.

Q2

Can "anyone" - preceed "they" in Q2?

What about any people - they?

Is it wrong to say:

I would like to receive any presents from you, so I can keep them.

C may not be the perfect answer, but grammatically correct alone sometimes is a good reason to choose that answer (provided we know they are correct ).

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31 May 2004, 05:58
From American Heritage book of english usage:
In spoken English, there is a growing tendency to use would have in place of the subjunctive had in contrary-to-fact clauses, such as If she would have (instead of if she had) only listened to me, this would never have happened. But this usage is still widely considered an error in writing. Only 14 percent of the Usage Panel accepts it in the previously cited sentence, and a similar amountâ€”but 16 percentâ€”accepts it in the sentence I wish you would have told me about this sooner.

Only ans D, follows the reasoning.
If ------ had anticipated ----they would have-----
I think "any people" is a distractor

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31 May 2004, 08:36
Choice B, "Had anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers anticipated", is perfectly correct.

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31 May 2004, 14:42
[quote="encyclo"]Hi, I few questions that foxed me. G
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After a few weeks experience, apprentice jewelers can usually begin
to discriminate, though not with absolute certainty, genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds.
(A) genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds
(B) genuine diamonds apart from imitations
(C) between genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(D) among genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(E) whether diamonds are imitation or genuine

(The answer in the key is C, I thought the answer to be A. But isn't using both discriminate and between redundant? After all one always dicriminates something from the rest.)
quote]

correct usage:
discriminate X from Y
discriminate between X and Y
both are correct

I saw this in some examples but there wasno explanation provided.

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31 May 2004, 14:47
If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated, or even suspected, the impending sale of the Koniko kelp processing plant, they would have advised owners of Koniko stock to unload all shares immediately

anyone/anybody cannot go with "they"
So usage of "people" is correct in this context.

Between C and D - D is correct

If they had anticipated the storm, they would have left the city

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