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Guys,

Could you try the SC below? Please explain your answer.

Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

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25 Apr 2007, 10:25
I will go for "C". Correct idiom is "determine whether"

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27 Apr 2007, 13:20
I am totally confused but on a test day I would have chosen D . What is the OA?

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27 Apr 2007, 16:26
Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

the correct one should start with "that". This leaves C, D and E.
C and E are wrong because of usage of "is".
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27 Apr 2007, 17:05
shoonya wrote:
the correct one should start with "that". This leaves C, D and E.

can you please explain that?

"Researchers agreed that ...... but that" doesn't sound correct to me.

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27 Apr 2007, 19:53
Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
Incorrect usage

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
Redundancy

C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
correct

D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
I will prefer preceded by over preceded with

E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is
Incorrect usage

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27 Apr 2007, 21:50
recede with" is the right usage, not "precede by".

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/precede

Ankita, now abt your query, "that" is right because it will make the whole sentence complete. There are two parallel phrases.

The researchers agreed "that ...." but "that....."
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28 Apr 2007, 00:27
Shoonay

I think both "precede with" and "precede by" are correct usage

But â€œprecede withâ€

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28 Apr 2007, 02:58
[quote="apache"]Shoonay

I think both "precede with" and "precede by" are correct usage

But â€œprecede withâ€

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28 Apr 2007, 09:47
[quote="dvtohir"]Guys,

Could you try the SC below? Please explain your answer.

Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but [u]more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than[/u] the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is[/quote]

C for me; paralel "..agreed that... but that.."

A/B- "...agreed that... but that... ", so B and A are out
D-changes the meaning of the original sentence; "to determine whether" should be the correct form in this sentence (there is a level of uncertainty in the original sentence)
E- "for determining" is wrong; "than is" is also wrong

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28 Apr 2007, 09:48
[quote="dvtohir"]Guys,

Could you try the SC below? Please explain your answer.

Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but [u]more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than[/u] the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is[/quote]

C for me; paralel "..agreed that... but that.."

A/B- "...agreed that... but that... ", so B and A are out
D-changes the meaning of the original sentence; "to determine whether" should be the correct form in this sentence (there is a level of uncertainty in the original sentence)
E- "for determining" is wrong; "than is" is also wrong

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28 Apr 2007, 10:28
Guys,

Thank you all for your explanations.

I see that debate over the OA on this SC is heating up.

Unfortunately, I just have the referenced (not official) key for this SC: B. However, B is wrong at least because of the missing â€œthatâ€

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28 Apr 2007, 14:42
i go with C

in D,

the formation - 'that more research ... to determine that' is not correct.

the researchers are trying to choose between A and B

they are trying to determine whether A is better , hence use of 'that' is not appropriate and wrong.

Also, the tense 'is' is appropriate in this context .. to find out whether a method 'is' better .. not 'was' better.

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29 Apr 2007, 06:29
dvtohir wrote:
Guys,

Could you try the SC below? Please explain your answer.

Q29. Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

By POE:
That X..That Y ->A,B are out
"to determine " and "preceded by" is correct->Answer C

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