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The Planned Parenthood representative suggested that all sexually active
teenagers be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged
all parents who have post-pubescent children
to talk to their children about birth
control.
(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents who have post-pubescent children
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children
(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child



I was able to narrow down to A and D but then got stuck.
Can anyone help?


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The Planned Parenthood representative suggested that all sexually active
teenagers be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged
all parents who have post-pubescent children to talk to their children about birth
control.
(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents who have post-pubescent children - Here "who have" is wrong in this context. In this context, a person suggests something and who have is ambiguous. Instead "with X", rightly conveys the issue.
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children - Wrong
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children - Wrong
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children - Correct
(E) should beprotected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child
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Imo D between A and D but just because its less words.

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The Planned Parenthood representative suggested that all sexually active
teenagers be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged
all parents who have post-pubescent children
to talk to their children about birth
control.
(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents
who have post-pubescent children-------- grammatically correct but meaning wise wrong ...... encouraged all parents means all parents on this earth or in in whole universe :shock: ......... so we need to say parents who or parents with ...... all complexes the meaning ....
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children

(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child


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The Planned Parenthood representative suggested that all sexually active
teenagers be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged
all parents who have post-pubescent children
to talk to their children about birth
control.
(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents who have post-pubescent children
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children
(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child



I was able to narrow down to A and D but then got stuck.
Can anyone help?


Thanks :)



This is an example of a subjunctive mood showing a possibility or a desire.

(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents
who have post-pubescent children
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children

(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child

in answer choice A it says
all parents who have post-pubescent children
D is the answer here -as it conveys the meaning correctly

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I too, narrowed it down to A and D. Option A uses the word "all parents.." - which really means all parents - which felt out of context, since the 'Planned Parenthood' representative is presumably addressing a limited group of parents. Hence option D.

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I do not understand why A is wrong... Yes it may say "all parents" but after that there is a "who" which further defines this subgroup, hence I do not spot the error ...


Or is it that we need a prepositional phrase to modify a noun ? I tought a subordinator like "who" would also do it

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It does not matter much whether he suggested to all parents or just to parents. Parents here will mean the same as all parents. But A is a drop - out because of using a present perfect 'who have' in a reported speech of a main past tense clause. A should have used the simple past tense "who had".
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It does not matter much whether he suggested to all parents or just to parents. Parents here will mean the same as all parents. But A is a drop - out because of using a present perfect 'who have' in a reported speech of a main past tense clause. A should have used the simple past tense "who had".



Once in the past, always in the past ...

Thank you! Glad to know that there is nothing wrong with the "who"

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daagh wrote:
It does not matter much whether he suggested to all parents or just to parents. Parents here will mean the same as all parents. But A is a drop - out because of using a present perfect 'who have' in a reported speech of a main past tense clause. A should have used the simple past tense "who had".



Once in the past, always in the past ...

Thank you! Glad to know that there is nothing wrong with the "who"


Your query has already been very well explained by Daagh Sir. However your point that "Once in the past, always in the past" does not hold.

I was sympathetic to people who ARE blind. .. correct
The above statement implies that I used to be sympathetic to people who are still blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic.)

I was sympathetic to people who WERE blind. ..questionable
The above statement implies that I used to sympathetic to people who used to be blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic, and those people may no longer be blind.)

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daagh wrote:
It does not matter much whether he suggested to all parents or just to parents. Parents here will mean the same as all parents. But A is a drop - out because of using a present perfect 'who have' in a reported speech of a main past tense clause. A should have used the simple past tense "who had".



Once in the past, always in the past ...

Thank you! Glad to know that there is nothing wrong with the "who"


Your query has already been very well explained by Daagh Sir. However your point that "Once in the past, always in the past" does not hold.

I was sympathetic to people who ARE blind. .. correct
The above statement implies that I used to be sympathetic to people who are still blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic.)

I was sympathetic to people who WERE blind. ..questionable
The above statement implies that I used to sympathetic to people who used to be blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic, and those people may no longer be blind.)



Then I do not understand what should be wrong with "have" in the original sentence... Since these parents are quite likely to still have these children.

Or does the whole problem concerns the fact that we are in reported speech and here we must use past form whatsoever ?

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Once in the past, always in the past ...

Thank you! Glad to know that there is nothing wrong with the "who"


Your query has already been very well explained by Daagh Sir. However your point that "Once in the past, always in the past" does not hold.

I was sympathetic to people who ARE blind. .. correct
The above statement implies that I used to be sympathetic to people who are still blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic.)

I was sympathetic to people who WERE blind. ..questionable
The above statement implies that I used to sympathetic to people who used to be blind. (Currently I may no longer be sympathetic, and those people may no longer be blind.)



Then I do not understand what should be wrong with "have" in the original sentence... Since these parents are quite likely to still have these children.

Or does the whole problem concerns the fact that we are in reported speech and here we must use past form whatsoever ?


Your understanding is correct. But the parents who HAD post-pubescent children at THAT time were encouraged. Those parents may no longer be having post-pubescent children now (Children grow up). However if the meaning intended were that the children are still in post-pubescent, then use of simple present would be alright.

Yes, the problem is about reported speech and past tense. But a question-writer may at some point set a question to trap candidates who would not keep the above point in mind: that even in reported speech simple present can be used.

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(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents who have post-pubescent children
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children
(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child



and also is wrong.

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I don't like this question.

Both A and D makes sense.

The representative can encourage (or made a suggestion in the past) to parents who currently have post-pubescent children.

OR

The representative can encourage (or made a suggestion in the past) to parents who HAD post-pubescent children. (aka their children grew up)

In addition, post-pubescent children by definition is any children older than 18. A parent call his 35 year old son post-pubescent children. It sounds ridiculous, but it is technically true.

The sentence also uses "all sexually active teenagers" and hence "all parents“ fits parallelism.

I can even be more pedantic and say "with post-pubescent children" doesn't necessarily mean THEIR children. They can be sitting "with post-pubescent children" (not theirs) but then advised to talk to their own children!? (Long shot I know, but GMAT questions are extremely concise). In SC, one shouldn't need to try this hard to interpret the intended meaning of the question.

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Please find the below explanation:

Kevalkhanna wrote:
The Planned Parenthood representative suggested that all sexually active
teenagers be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged
all parents who have post-pubescent children
to talk to their children about birth
control.
(A) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged all
parents who have post-pubescent children
(B) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
all parents that have post-pubescent children
(C) are protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encourages
those parents who are having post-pubescent children
(D) be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also encouraged parents
with post-pubescent children
(E) should be protected from STDs as thoroughly as possible and also has encouraged
all those parents with a post-pubescent child



I was able to narrow down to A and D but then got stuck.
Can anyone help?


Thanks :)


Between A and D, those parents who have post pubescent children or with pubescent children is correct

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