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# SC: Tripping

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The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages, he tripped and nearly dislocated his shoulder.

(A) Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages,
(B) Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp
(C) Larry walked down the ramp, with laden packages,
(D) Larry, laden with packages, walked down the ramp
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26 Sep 2006, 16:14
OA is:

D.

What's wrong with A? Isn't laden with packages a participle phrase? In such case, it's current position within the sentence should be correct. What am I missing? thanks.....
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26 Sep 2006, 18:06
govinam wrote:
OA is:

D.

What's wrong with A? Isn't laden with packages a participle phrase? In such case, it's current position within the sentence should be correct. What am I missing? thanks.....

Its Larry and not the ramp which is laden with packages

Misplaced modifier
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26 Sep 2006, 18:56
trivikram wrote:
govinam wrote:
OA is:

D.

What's wrong with A? Isn't laden with packages a participle phrase? In such case, it's current position within the sentence should be correct. What am I missing? thanks.....

Its Larry and not the ramp which is laden with packages

Misplaced modifier

Yea, I too caught the same mistake of misplaced modifier. But the other mistake I thought I found was, two past events, so had to use past perfect for walked down the ramp..

What do u say??

That's Y i went with E
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26 Sep 2006, 19:39
govinam wrote:

The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages, he tripped and nearly dislocated his shoulder.

(A) Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages,
(B) Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp
(C) Larry walked down the ramp, with laden packages,
(D) Larry, laden with packages, walked down the ramp

What i learned is that GMAT wants you to avoid using a past perfect when you can, and here the job can be done with a simple past tense so D is the appropriate choice.
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27 Sep 2006, 08:55
uvs_mba wrote:
govinam wrote:

The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages, he tripped and nearly dislocated his shoulder.

(A) Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages,
(B) Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp
(C) Larry walked down the ramp, with laden packages,
(D) Larry, laden with packages, walked down the ramp

What i learned is that GMAT wants you to avoid using a past perfect when you can, and here the job can be done with a simple past tense so D is the appropriate choice.

The source of this question, I am embarrassed to admit, is bellcurves. I know that because I originally posted this SC last year.

In all honesty, all answer choices are wrong. (D) comes close, but still needs a comma after ramp to complete the original intended meaning, incorporating correct punctuation.
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27 Sep 2006, 11:21
Thanks Matt. I agree your point. It requires comma
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27 Sep 2006, 15:19
Excuse my ignorance here

(D) Larry, laden with packages, walked down the ramp
Doesn't this have a modifier problem ?
Packages modifies walked down the ramp.
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27 Sep 2006, 19:19
Personally I think E is the best.

When you use "the first time....", you use perfect, either present or past, after the "time that".

and D does not even has a comma.

I can't believe what the source of the question is. It distorts your understanding of correct grammar.

Refer here: http://www.edict.com.hk/diagnostic/pathwayB.htm

Tense after the first time: present perfect / progressive / simpleWe normally use the present perfect with the adverbs â€¦. first / -nth time
eg This is the third time you've asked me the same question.

So, this is another crap question for me, if it is not from OG. Pass!
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27 Sep 2006, 21:25
tennis_ball wrote:
Personally I think E is the best.

When you use "the first time....", you use perfect, either present or past, after the "time that".

and D does not even has a comma.

I can't believe what the source of the question is. It distorts your understanding of correct grammar.

Refer here: http://www.edict.com.hk/diagnostic/pathwayB.htm

Tense after the first time: present perfect / progressive / simpleWe normally use the present perfect with the adverbs â€¦. first / -nth time
eg This is the third time you've asked me the same question.

So, this is another crap question for me, if it is not from OG. Pass!

This is in different context.

Let's see two sentences:
1. That was the first time when I sang song infront of a huge crowd.
2. This is the second time when I have sung song infront of a huge crowd.

This SC falls under 1st example.
I feel D is the best choice. However it needs comma after ramp.

Regards,
Brajesh
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28 Sep 2006, 00:04
b14kumar wrote:
tennis_ball wrote:
Personally I think E is the best.

When you use "the first time....", you use perfect, either present or past, after the "time that".

and D does not even has a comma.

I can't believe what the source of the question is. It distorts your understanding of correct grammar.

Refer here: http://www.edict.com.hk/diagnostic/pathwayB.htm

Tense after the first time: present perfect / progressive / simpleWe normally use the present perfect with the adverbs â€¦. first / -nth time
eg This is the third time you've asked me the same question.

So, this is another crap question for me, if it is not from OG. Pass!

This is in different context.

Let's see two sentences:
1. That was the first time when I sang song infront of a huge crowd.
2. This is the second time when I have sung song infront of a huge crowd.

This SC falls under 1st example.
I feel D is the best choice. However it needs comma after ramp.

Regards,
Brajesh

BTW, can you explain the difference between your 2 examples?
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04 Jul 2007, 12:15
ivymba wrote:
Excuse my ignorance here

(D) Larry, laden with packages, walked down the ramp
Doesn't this have a modifier problem ?
Packages modifies walked down the ramp.

interesting point.
is this the sentence structure?
intro phrase, nonessential phrase, dependent phrase , independent clause.
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05 Jul 2007, 05:00
D , i feel has a modifier problem. But its best among other choices i believe.
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