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Re: Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu [#permalink]
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Hi,

I am really confused.

1> I first tried to answer assuming ordered permutation way and got 120.
2> If it is not ordered but rather a combination of 3 items (out of chicken/beef/prawn/veg/tofu) in one entry, then their should be 5C3 ways of combining them - 10 ways which then should be multiplied by 2 ways of adding sauce. So the answer was 20.

Can someone please clearly lay down the strategy if there are subtle nuances in the question?
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could anyone explain the solution please? I cannot reach 80 anyhow.
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thank you GMATPrepNow
this is hard to conceive, probably i've never faced this type of question
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Re: Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu [#permalink]
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Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu entrees served with either garlic or chili sauce. In how many ways can 3 entrees be served if no entry is served more than once?
Answer Options: -

A. 10
B. 60
C. 80
D. 100
E. 120


Take the task of creating a meal and break it into stages.

Stage 1: Select 3 entrees
Since the order in which we select the entrees does not matter, we can use combinations.
We can select 3 entrees from 5 entrees in 5C3 ways (10 ways)
So, we can complete stage 1 in 10 ways

If anyone is interested, we have a video (below) on calculating combinations (like 5C3) in your head

ASIDE: We now have our 3 entrees, but we don't have a sauce for each entree.

Stage 2: Choose a sauce for one of of the entrees
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 2 in 2 ways

Stage 3: Choose a sauce for another entree
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 3 in 2 ways

Stage 4: Choose a sauce for the last remaining entree
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 4 in 2 ways

By the Fundamental Counting Principle (FCP), we can complete all 4 stages (and thus create a meal) in (10)(2)(2)(2) ways (= 80 ways)

Answer: C

Note: the FCP can be used to solve the MAJORITY of counting questions on the GMAT. So, be sure to learn it.

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Why do you have so many stages? Why wouldn't it be just two stages? I thought of just 2, the entrees and the sauces. So it would be 20 in total, or 5C3 * 2.
Another way I thought of was if you cannot repeat an entree, there are 24 options (5*2 + 4*2 + 3*2).

Can you explain why both of these solutions are wrong?
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RefError wrote:
Why do you have so many stages?


It helps to avoid errors :)

RefError wrote:
I thought of just 2, the entrees and the sauces. So it would be 20 in total, or 5C3 * 2.
Another way I thought of was if you cannot repeat an entree, there are 24 options (5*2 + 4*2 + 3*2).
Can you explain why both of these solutions are wrong?


What do your values stand for?

While my solution might LOOK longer than it needs to be, I don't write out every stage on my notepad. HOWEVER, I make it very clear to myself what each is occurring at each stage.
So, for example, in your 2-stage solution, 5C3 * 2, what does 5C3 represent and what does 2 represent?

Likewise, in your other solution, 5*2 + 4*2 + 3*2, what does each part represent?

Once you start articulating what each stage represents, your solutions will improve.

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thank you GMATPrepNow
this is hard to conceive, probably i've never faced this type of question


It's a tricky question.
It's also poorly-worded.

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RefError wrote:
Why do you have so many stages?


It helps to avoid errors :)

RefError wrote:
I thought of just 2, the entrees and the sauces. So it would be 20 in total, or 5C3 * 2.
Another way I thought of was if you cannot repeat an entree, there are 24 options (5*2 + 4*2 + 3*2).
Can you explain why both of these solutions are wrong?


What do your values stand for?

While my solution might LOOK longer than it needs to be, I don't write out every stage on my notepad. HOWEVER, I make it very clear to myself what each is occurring at each stage.
So, for example, in your 2-stage solution, 5C3 * 2, what does 5C3 represent and what does 2 represent?

Likewise, in your other solution, 5*2 + 4*2 + 3*2, what does each part represent?

Once you start articulating what each stage represents, your solutions will improve.

Cheers,
Brent


Okay, here you go...
1. Why do you have 4 stages rather than two? You have 4 stages for entree * sauce * sauce * sauce. Why? Why not two stages for Entrees and Sauces. With two stages you would do the exact same thing you did, but without the additional two stage. 5C3 (choose 3 entrees from five entrees) * 2 (sauces).
2. Why is it also not appropriate to calculate as Option 1 + Option 2 + Option 3? Option 1 = 5 entrees * 2 sauces. Option 2 = 4 entrees * 2 sauces. Option 3 = 3 entrees * 2 sauces.
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RefError wrote:
1. Why do you have 4 stages rather than two? You have 4 stages for entree * sauce * sauce * sauce. Why? Why not two stages for Entrees and Sauces. With two stages you would do the exact same thing you did, but without the additional two stage. 5C3 (choose 3 entrees from five entrees) * 2 (sauces).

It would help if you actually defined each stage.
For example:
STAGE 1: Choose 3 entrees
This stage can be completed in 5C3 (aka 10) ways

STAGE 2: What is happening here?
Is it "Choose a sauce"?
If so, which entree are you choosing a sauce for? Each entree must have its own accompanying sauce.
So, for example, ONE outcome (aka meal) might be: chicken with chili sauce, beef with garlic sauce, and vegetable with chili sauce

RefError wrote:
Okay, here you go...
2. Why is it also not appropriate to calculate as Option 1 + Option 2 + Option 3? Option 1 = 5 entrees * 2 sauces. Option 2 = 4 entrees * 2 sauces. Option 3 = 3 entrees * 2 sauces.


This looks like you are repeating many possible meals. So, your answer will be far too big.
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Re: Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu [#permalink]
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PLUTO wrote:
Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu entrees served with either garlic or chili sauce. In how many ways can 3 entrees be served if no entry is served more than once?
Answer Options: -

A. 10
B. 60
C. 80
D. 100
E. 120


Take the task of creating a meal and break it into stages.

Stage 1: Select 3 entrees
Since the order in which we select the entrees does not matter, we can use combinations.
We can select 3 entrees from 5 entrees in 5C3 ways (10 ways)
So, we can complete stage 1 in 10 ways

If anyone is interested, we have a video (below) on calculating combinations (like 5C3) in your head

ASIDE: We now have our 3 entrees, but we don't have a sauce for each entree.

Stage 2: Choose a sauce for one of of the entrees
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 2 in 2 ways

Stage 3: Choose a sauce for another entree
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 3 in 2 ways

Stage 4: Choose a sauce for the last remaining entree
We have 2 choices (garlic or chili sauce), so we can complete stage 4 in 2 ways

By the Fundamental Counting Principle (FCP), we can complete all 4 stages (and thus create a meal) in (10)(2)(2)(2) ways (= 80 ways)

Answer: C


I appreciate your solution and it is well explained. Can you please help me understand what I am doing wrong in the following approach,

Stage 1: No of ways to make 1st entree (select 1 base from 5 and select 1 sauce from 2) = 5C1 x 2C1 = 10
Stage 2: No of ways to make 2nd entree (select 1 base from 4 remaining and select 1 sauce from 2) = 4C1 x 2C1 = 8
Stage 3: No of ways to make 3rd entree (select 1 base from 3 remaining and select 1 sauce from 2) = 3C1 x 2C1 = 6

Total number of ways = 10 x 8 x 6 = 480
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priarav wrote:
PLUTO wrote:
Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu entrees served with either garlic or chili sauce. In how many ways can 3 entrees be served if no entry is served more than once?
Answer Options: -

A. 10
B. 60
C. 80
D. 100
E. 120



I appreciate your solution and it is well explained. Can you please help me understand what I am doing wrong in the following approach,

Stage 1: No of ways to make 1st entree (select 1 base from 5 and select 1 sauce from 2) = 5C1 x 2C1 = 10
Stage 2: No of ways to make 2nd entree (select 1 base from 4 remaining and select 1 sauce from 2) = 4C1 x 2C1 = 8
Stage 3: No of ways to make 3rd entree (select 1 base from 3 remaining and select 1 sauce from 2) = 3C1 x 2C1 = 6

Total number of ways = 10 x 8 x 6 = 480


The problem with your solution is that you have counted each unique meal 6 times.

In your solution, we COULD choose:
- chicken with garlic sauce in stage 1, prawn with chili sauce in stage 2, and beef with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- chicken with garlic sauce in stage 1, beef with garlic sauce in stage 2, and prawn with chili sauce in stage 3
or
- prawn with chili sauce in stage 1, chicken with garlic sauce in stage 2, and beef with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- prawn with chili sauce in stage 1, beef with garlic sauce in stage 2, and chicken with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- beef with garlic sauce in stage 1, prawn with chili sauce in stage 2, and chicken with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- beef with garlic sauce in stage 1, chicken with garlic sauce in stage 2, and prawn with chili sauce in stage 3

Notice that all 6 meals are the SAME.
Since you have counted each unique meal 6 times, we must divide your answer by 6 to get 460/6 = 80

Does that help?

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The problem with your solution is that you have counted each unique meal 6 times.

In your solution, we COULD choose:
- chicken with garlic sauce in stage 1, prawn with chili sauce in stage 2, and beef with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- chicken with garlic sauce in stage 1, beef with garlic sauce in stage 2, and prawn with chili sauce in stage 3
or
- prawn with chili sauce in stage 1, chicken with garlic sauce in stage 2, and beef with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- prawn with chili sauce in stage 1, beef with garlic sauce in stage 2, and chicken with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- beef with garlic sauce in stage 1, prawn with chili sauce in stage 2, and chicken with garlic sauce in stage 3
or
- beef with garlic sauce in stage 1, chicken with garlic sauce in stage 2, and prawn with chili sauce in stage 3

Notice that all 6 meals are the SAME.
Since you have counted each unique meal 6 times, we must divide your answer by 6 to get 460/6 = 80

Does that help?

Cheers,
Brent


Hi Brent,
This does help. Thank you for clearing this up. I really appreciate it.
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Re: Schezwan restaurant offers 5 chicken, prawn, beef, vegetable & tofu [#permalink]
Since you cannot choose 1 Entree from each kind - 5C3 = 10 - let's say we choose chicken, tofu and beef

Then for each of the 3 -
Chicken - 2 options of sauce
Beef - 2 options of sauce
Tofu - 2 options of sauce

Hence 10*2*2*2 - 80

C

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