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# Scientists have found new evidence of people initially

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09 Sep 2017, 00:04
The phrase ‘same as’ is a comparison marker, meaning that the two entities it compares should be both logically and grammatically similar. These are the two elements compared in the original sentence:

• “People initially registering emotions like sadness or anger” in much the same way as “heartburn.”

Now, ‘people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger’ is in no way parallel to ‘heartburn’. ‘Heartburn’ can be parallel to ‘emotions like sadness or anger’, since both are noun entities. However, this comparison is clearly not intended by the sentence. The phrase ‘in much the same way’ tells us that the author obviously wants to refer to a WAY in which something happens. In other words, the author wants to convey an ACTION. ‘Heartburn’ is not an action; it’s a thing. Clearly, there are some elements missing in the way the comparison has been structured.

“Of” is a preposition, and prepositions are always followed by nouns. In this case the noun is “registering,” plus a whole lot of modifiers.
“That, “ on the other hand, introduces a subordinate clause. The subject of that subordinate clause is “people” and the verb is “register.”

Option A: INCORRECT due to comparison issue.

Option B: INCORRECT due to comparison issue.

Option C: CORRECT.

Comparison: The clause “people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger” is perfectly parallel to the clause “as they experience heartburn.” This also takes care of the pronoun issue. Since “they” is clearly parallel to “people” in this option, it must refer to “people”. There is no other possible logical antecedent for this pronoun. Correct idiomatic usage “Evidence that”.

'Person' (singular) does not agree with 'their'(plural). Option D and option E are out and C Wins.
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Scientists have found new evidence of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as heartburn—by monitoring what’s going on within their bodies.

A. of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as
Use of like for examples is incorrect
B. of people initially registering emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
Evidence of people is incorrect here because although 'evidence of' is followed by noun(people) , The existence of entity(people) is not explained by evidence.
C. that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience
D. that a person initially registers emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
'Their' in the non underlined part has no logical antecedent. : Incorrect
E. that a person initially registers emotions like sadness or anger much the same as
same as A

Experts pls. help with the comparison issue in option B & option D
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Scientists have found new evidence of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as heartburn—by monitoring what’s going on within their bodies.

A. of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as
B. of people initially registering emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
C. that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience
D. that a person initially registers emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
E. that a person initially registers emotions like sadness or anger much the same as

WHY CAN'T "They" in option C refer to Emotions or people or Scientists??
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Scientists have found new evidence of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as heartburn—by monitoring what’s going on within their bodies.
This question requires understanding of multiple concepts such as:
1. Subjunctive mood( Command words+that must be followed by base form of verb and is/am/are/was/were- be)
2. Such as/as Vs like.

A. of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as//violation of rule 1 i.e command word evidence must be followed by that//
B. of people initially registering emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing// same as A//
C. that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience// correct. Follows both rule 1 and rule 2//.
D. that a person initially registers emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing//Violation of rule 1. Use of base form of verb is required but this option is using registers that is not a base form//
E. that a person initially registers emotions like sadness or anger much the same as//Same as D//

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Scientists have found new evidence of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way asheartburn—by monitoring what’s going on within their bodies.

A. of people initially registering emotions like sadness or anger in much the same way as
B. of people initially registering emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
C. that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience
D. that a person initially registers emotions such as sadness or anger much the same way as experiencing
E. that a person initially registers emotions like sadness or anger much the same seem

There seems to be some misconceptions about subjunctive mood's form and usage, which have to be nipped ASAP.
The command subjunctive is uses in satiations where an element of mandating or an amount inevitability, compulsoriness or unskippability is involved. The subjunctive mood is used when the verb indicates a desire, intention, command, recommendation, request, resolution, or advice. It is also used along with such adjectives as advisable, better, desirable, and directive, essential, fitting, imperative, important, necessary, urge, urgent and vital. Very important thing to note here is that the word - that -will always accompany such subjunctive mood sentences and the verb of the relative sentences will always be the base form called 'the bare infinitive' or the root form of the verb
As a side shoot, it is also true then 'that' is essential whenever there is a command subjunctive, but whenever 'that' is used, it need not be a subjunctive tool. The word 'that' is a multi - dimensional, used as a connector, a relative pronoun, a demonstrative pronoun, an adjective, an adverb, a subordinate conjunction, and a subordinate clause introducer. Therefore, the moment we see the word 'that' we should not to decide the issue is subjunctive.
The verb form that has to be used in a command subjunctive is called the bar infinitive, for example: 'to talk' is the ordinary infinitive. If we remove the 'infinitive marker 'to' from the infinitive, and simply say talk,' it is called the bare infinitive. people may call it the base form or the root form, but they are all okay. Only thing is that they should not be call plural verbs.
Coming to the question at hand, first thing is the evidence is not one of those subjunctive markers. Therefore, there is no need to use the bare infinitive as the subjunctive mood in this case.
This is just a test of the use of 'such as and like' and secondly about the sub-pronoun number agreement.
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Well, I understand that the all the remaining options have errors and is that the only reason C is the correct option?
Because
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C. that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience

They in option c can refer to emotions right?
Yes , i can understand that meaning matters but still i have this doubt.
please clarify my issue.
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