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# Seniors Plz help..Really fighting with Verbal and Timing..

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15 Jul 2010, 02:12
Hi..

I am preparing for the last 3 months and for the last 15 days i am putting in around 10 hours daily..

On Monday i gave my Gmat Prep 1 and got : Q48 , V23 , Total : 580..
Analysis : Quant ( Incorrect 13 ) ; Verbal ( Incorrect : 16 )
Correct Incorrect
PS 14 ; 5
DS 10 ; 8
CR 6 ; 5
SC 10 ; 7
RC 9 ; 4
Few Q nos that i got incorrect in Verbal were : 7,8 ; 13,14 ; 27,28 ; 30,32,33,36,39,41

Today i got 590 again (Q49.V23) and got 8 Questions incorrect in Verbal out of last 12 Qs.

In verbal i had to guess and move very fast in few Qs as i was having timing Issues which i think affected my score badly.. i was not able to even think properly in some of the easy Q..

i ve completed OG12 for CR and OG 10 & OG12 for SC with around 75-80 % success rate.. In CR i am not able to predict the answer as suggested by many members..

plzz help me to improve my score as i am targeting a Score of around 700 and planing to give my Gmat on August 7,2010...

Should i book my GMAT for August 7,2010 ???

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15 Jul 2010, 04:16
Do not book the date unless you are hitting your target on a consistent basis. Verbal scores on the real test tend to drop more than quant scores, so you could end up with Q48-49 and V-19-22.
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15 Jul 2010, 05:04
Honestly, I am not convinced that verbal might drop that bad .

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Today i got 590 again (Q49.V23) and got 8 Questions incorrect in Verbal out of last 12 Qs.

from my understanding, you might have a concentration issue - had the same during my prepraration, lost motivation & concentration over time - during the real test the situation was 100% different: i remained concentrated and focussed because of the "test-environment".

nevertheless, would focus on verbal, especially SC & CR. there is absolutely no guarantee that you are able to hit your 700 target on august 7, but i would still see it as possible & realistic.
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15 Jul 2010, 05:47
beraterschwein wrote:
Honestly, I am not convinced that verbal might drop that bad .

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Today i got 590 again (Q49.V23) and got 8 Questions incorrect in Verbal out of last 12 Qs.

from my understanding, you might have a concentration issue - had the same during my prepraration, lost motivation & concentration over time - during the real test the situation was 100% different: i remained concentrated and focussed because of the "test-environment".

nevertheless, would focus on verbal, especially SC & CR. there is absolutely no guarantee that you are able to hit your 700 target on august 7, but i would still see it as possible & realistic.

So what was your score on verbal in real test??
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15 Jul 2010, 08:19
You need to focus on each question type separately - CR, SC, RC.
no, I would not schedule for Aug 7th unless you believe in miracles
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15 Jul 2010, 19:34
bb wrote:
You need to focus on each question type separately - CR, SC, RC.
no, I would not schedule for Aug 7th unless you believe in miracles

Thanks bb ... ll try to improve on each section...
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15 Jul 2010, 20:25
The verbal is our main concern. But before I offer any recommendation, could you tell us which verbal guides have you studied with so far? And how do you answer and review each verbal question?
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16 Jul 2010, 00:17
bmillan01 wrote:
The verbal is our main concern. But before I offer any recommendation, could you tell us which verbal guides have you studied with so far? And how do you answer and review each verbal question?

Hi Bmillan01 ,

In SC , i ve done Manhattan SC 2-3 times and then did OG10 and OG12 once . In both the official guides i ve thoroughly analyzed each wrong ans along with the Correct one and got around 75-80 % success rate in both.

In CR , i ve done Powerscore CR bible twice , gone through OG 12 once and part of OG10 as well..
In CR initially i was able to guess or predict the ans after reading the Q of OG12 but after some days i think just because of a little hurry or so i stopped predicting and started directly going to ans choices to look for the right ans or used POE to eliminate wrong ans and get to the right one which i think is hurting my performance in GmatPrep.

In RC , if i take a time of around 15-20 min in 1 RC having 5-6 Qs i am able to get 4/6 or 5/6 correct but i think i ve to get the time down to nearly 10 min for 1 RC..

During GMATprep i am not able to use my brain even in simple SC & CR due to which i miss them & in last 10 to 12 Qs i get around 8-10 incorrect due to rushing , resulting from less amount of time left..

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16 Jul 2010, 00:42
Hussain15 wrote:
So what was your score on verbal in real test??

V42, Q48

But again: During my preparation I NEVER did to manage to remain motivated/concentrated for the verbal part and had similar figures in the end (bad/stupid mistakes within the last 10-15 questions, failure ratio >50%-70%)

I dont think that one can say this in general and for everyone, but from my understanding, a 3month preparation incl. really intensive studying hours could result in exactly that image...
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16 Jul 2010, 10:20
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A 75 to 80 percent success rate in SC is pretty solid. But, if possible, it might help to read Manhattan one last time, or at least the sections in which you have the most trouble. I wouldn't read the CR again, though. Perhaps you just need more practice. GMATClub forums have hundreds of CR and SC questions along with full explanations. Try to answer ten per day, and fully explain your answer and why the other choices are wrong. This will reinforce the material, because you are practicing with more questions and fully explainingthem. Even if you're basically copying a previous post, put it in your own words. This helps.

For RC, the best thing to do is practice. I'm a big fan of LSAT RC questions because the passages are very long and complex. The questions can also be more difficult. Once you're comfortable with LSAT RC, then GMAT RC shouldn't be a problem.

Also, be sure to keep an Error Log and record exactly what type of CR, SC, or RC question you get wrong. If one question takes more than 2 minutes, then answer it anyway, but mark it as incorrect and redo it later. Use the GMAT Timer for this. Whenever you are ready, time yourself to determine your base. After that, try to reduce the question time by a few seconds for each verbal practice session.

And whenever you have time, read some GMAT Fiction. It helps, but in a very subtle way.

Here is some info about the GMAT Timer:
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time-yourself-with-a-new-gmat-club-timer-v-96251.html
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16 Jul 2010, 10:31
bmillan01 wrote:
A 75 to 80 percent success rate in SC is pretty solid. But, if possible, it might help to read Manhattan one last time, or at least the sections in which you have the most trouble. I wouldn't read the CR again, though. Perhaps you just need more practice. GMATClub forums have hundreds of CR and SC questions along with full explanations. Try to answer ten per day, and fully explain your answer and why the other choices are wrong. This will reinforce the material, because you are practicing with more questions and fully explainingthem. Even if you're basically copying a previous post, put it in your own words. This helps.

For RC, the best thing to do is practice. I'm a big fan of LSAT RC questions because the passages are very long and complex. The questions can also be more difficult. Once you're comfortable with LSAT RC, then GMAT RC shouldn't be a problem.

Also, be sure to keep an Error Log and record exactly what type of CR, SC, or RC question you get wrong. If one question takes more than 2 minutes, then answer it anyway, but mark it as incorrect and redo it later. Use the GMAT Timer for this. Whenever you are ready, time yourself to determine your base. After that, try to reduce the question time by a few seconds for each verbal practice session.

And whenever you have time, read some GMAT Fiction. It helps, but in a very subtle way.

Here is the some info about the GMAT Timer:
gmat-timer-56014.html
time-yourself-with-a-new-gmat-club-timer-v-96251.html

Thanks bmillan... +1
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19 Aug 2010, 12:32
Sag so how is your Preparation going even i belong to your category of below 600 aiming for 700+
Have you booked a date or still preparing...????
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19 Aug 2010, 23:46
Sag so how is your Preparation going even i belong to your category of below 600 aiming for 700+
Have you booked a date or still preparing...????

i failed badly on my first Gmat attempt taken on Aug 09,2010.. fell from 650(Q49,V31) on Gmatprep taken on Aug 5, 2010 to 550(Q44,V22) on Real Gmat..

Now i ve taken a break for sometime.. ll start with verbal again with different strategy soon..

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20 Aug 2010, 04:27
Hey Sag,
Get the 1000RC,CR,SC series. Nobody mentions them anywhere and I dont know why. I got to know about them only after I took my GMAT. PM me your email, I will send them to you. They are good for practice if you are done with OG. I have been doing 3 passage daily, 20 Cr and 20 SC under times conditions. And keep an error log. Keep practicing man. Declare a war on verbal.
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20 Aug 2010, 08:19
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Hey Sag,
Get the 1000RC,CR,SC series. Nobody mentions them anywhere and I dont know why. I got to know about them only after I took my GMAT. PM me your email, I will send them to you. They are good for practice if you are done with OG. I have been doing 3 passage daily, 20 Cr and 20 SC under times conditions. And keep an error log. Keep practicing man. Declare a war on verbal.

I have declared a war with VERBAL......this time its either me or verbal .....
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20 Aug 2010, 08:22
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Hey Sag,
Get the 1000RC,CR,SC series. Nobody mentions them anywhere and I dont know why. I got to know about them only after I took my GMAT. PM me your email, I will send them to you. They are good for practice if you are done with OG. I have been doing 3 passage daily, 20 Cr and 20 SC under times conditions. And keep an error log. Keep practicing man. Declare a war on verbal.

Normally, I have heard that there are few wrong question in them and few that are not OG question about 100 of them but still have 800 above questions are worth doing I have the list of question that are wrong probably i will be sharing with you soon

@Sag: Let me know when you start preparing Verbal.
Just for your knowledge even my score was 550 (Q47,V20 )
So we can help each other
let me know how do you feel about that......

I want 700+ because my dream colleges are all in top 20 and profiles is not that good but GMAT Score can help....
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20 Aug 2010, 08:25
Hey mustdoit

I am with you on this mate

Its War
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20 Aug 2010, 09:34
Me too with both of u guys... Amneet n Mustdoit..

Its a WAR we Have to n we Will WIN..
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20 Aug 2010, 10:49
Let us make a plan for next 15 days how about that...?????

and complete Manhattan SC and OG 10 or OG 12 in next 15 days

what say guys..............

Its wartime....
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20 Aug 2010, 20:09
Let us make a plan for next 15 days how about that...?????

and complete Manhattan SC and OG 10 or OG 12 in next 15 days

what say guys..............

Its wartime....

Amneet.. Actually i feel like starting with Fiction books or NYTimes etc first..
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