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karishma dont u think D is a paraphrase of the stimulus


Actually, I think the stimulus and option (D) say different things.

Stimulus says: All 7 had to perform specified actions on a fixed date simultaneously. Each country was to notify six others when it had completed its action.

(D) the treaty specified that the signal for one of the countries to initiate action was notification by the other countries that they had completed action.

D says that one country initiated its actions only after it received a signal from other countries that they had completed their actions. This is against the simultaneous specification of the treaty mentioned in the stimulus.
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man i fell for choice (D) too, but after reading Karishma's explanation, i have a better understanding now... +1 to you.

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Though there is a fixed time when each action has to start, it is conditional on the actions of other countries and hence a

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I narrowed the choices down to C and D.

On further analysis, I thought C is the best. In fact, it's the only one that really makes sense. D is simply paraphrasing the initial statement.
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C it is

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C is the only option that can go against the treaty.

all other options are well covered in the treaty

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I couldnt understand this stimulus as no conclusion is present.
In the end it asked for open threads and I chose E.
As per E -
there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete.

If one country didnt complete the action onbefore time then it wouldnt intimate other countries and similarly there is slippage in other countries date.

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Seven countries signed a treaty binding each of them to perform specified actions on a certain fixed date, with the actions of each conditional on simultaneous action taken by the other countries. Each country was also to notify the six other countries when it had completed its action.
The simultaneous-action provision of the treaty leaves open the possibility that
(A) the compliance date was subject to postponement, according to the terms of the treaty
(B) one of the countries might not be required to make any changes or take any steps in order to comply with the treaty, whereas all the other countries are so required
(C) each country might have a well-founded excuse, based on the provision, for its own lack of compliance
(D) the treaty specified that the signal for one of the countries to initiate action was notification by the other countries that they had completed action
(E) there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete


Ditto the same rreasoning I got and picked E ... actually C & E both kind of a probable one's ...
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Nicely explaination. Thanks & Kudos Karishma :)

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I got it right on C. All other choices are irrelevant and consume largely the reader's consideration. Tips: Find the most relevant answer. Skip those long sentences but irrelevant to the passage. Save time and get the answer straight

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ykaiim wrote:
I couldnt understand this stimulus as no conclusion is present.
In the end it asked for open threads and I chose E.
As per E -
there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete.

If one country didnt complete the action onbefore time then it wouldnt intimate other countries and similarly there is slippage in other countries date.

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Seven countries signed a treaty binding each of them to perform specified actions on a certain fixed date, with the actions of each conditional on simultaneous action taken by the other countries. Each country was also to notify the six other countries when it had completed its action.
The simultaneous-action provision of the treaty leaves open the possibility that
(A) the compliance date was subject to postponement, according to the terms of the treaty
(B) one of the countries might not be required to make any changes or take any steps in order to comply with the treaty, whereas all the other countries are so required
(C) each country might have a well-founded excuse, based on the provision, for its own lack of compliance
(D) the treaty specified that the signal for one of the countries to initiate action was notification by the other countries that they had completed action
(E) there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete


Ditto the same rreasoning I got and picked E ... actually C & E both kind of a probable one's ...



same here ... still didn't understand the reason behind choosing C ...

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The reasoning behind C is that the treaty is binding on a country only when actions are taken by other countries but the actions taken are supposed to be simultaneous. For the sake of simplicity, given two countries A and B, you may have the situation where A is waiting for B to take action and B is waiting for A to take action and so actually simultaneous actions can never be performed. So each country can give the excuse that the condition of compliance was not met and hence is not bound by the treaty.
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Seven countries signed a treaty binding each of them to perform specified actions on a certain fixed date, with the actions of each conditional on simultaneous action taken by the other countries. Each country was also to notify the six other countries when it had completed its action.
The simultaneous-action provision of the treaty leaves open the possibility that
(A) the compliance date was subject to postponement, according to the terms of the treaty
(B) one of the countries might not be required to make any changes or take any steps in order to comply with the treaty, whereas all the other countries are so required
(C) each country might have a well-founded excuse, based on the provision, for its own lack of compliance
(D) the treaty specified that the signal for one of the countries to initiate action was notification by the other countries that they had completed action
(E) there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete


Hi,

As per discussion above, I think everyone agrees with option C as the contender for answer choice; however, some consider option E as the strongest contender and thus the answer choice.

Let's read option E with the question stem:

The simultaneous-action provision of the treaty leaves open the possibility that there was ambiguity with respect to the date after which all actions contemplated in the treaty are to be complete.

Does the ambiguity arise due to the simultaneous provision? The answer is no. This simultaneous provision doesn't bring in any ambiguity with respect to the dates; it only makes it possible that none of the countries would do it since the action of one is contingent on the action of all others.

Thus, the answer to this is option C.

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I thought D initially as well but after reading Karishma's explanation, C makes more sense. D is almost saying the opposite of the premise. If a country initiated action only after being notified that another country had completed action, then it's impossible for the countries to have acted simultaneously.

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Initially thought D as the answer. But now I understand that the question stem is asking for a possible flaw in the reasoning. And C opens up that gap in the argument. Correct me guys if I am wrong.
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"with the actions of each conditional on simultaneous action taken by the other countries"

I didn't quite understand the stem. Are the actions parallel or in series? I would understand that simultaneous = at the same time. If it otherwise means that one country HAS to wait for another country's notification, then C would make sense to me.

Could any one help me out?

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Can some one explain what does it mean: "with the actions of each conditional on simultaneous action taken by the other countries."

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